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April 26, 2019, 06:22:21 PM
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As indicated by the report of Goldman Sachs, Bitcoin and other digital forms of money can be a decent option in contrast to the national cash for nations with an unsteady economy.
Experts at Goldman Sachs Zack Pandle and Charles Himmelberg said that advanced monetary standards and, specifically, Bitcoin, can turn into a reasonable methods for installment in nations where conventional cash isn't adequately given.
I think the allowance and regulations of bitcoin alone could create a lot of tax income for any country, if you are from a country that is in need of fresh money to increase the GDP and give your public a chance to actually survive then creating a cryptocurrency economy will help you a lot by paying you taxes on the crypto income which will in return used for the betterment of that public.

Even companies overseas that are not living under relax regulations for bitcoin or any other crypto will COME to your country just because you have better tax regulations. That will be the savior of any countries economy if only they could take advantage of that but I doubt anywhere big will do that now and all small ones are looked too unstable to test something like that for now.

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April 26, 2019, 06:32:57 PM
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Bitcoin is not an option in a collapsing economy, but it is a solution. It is the nature of Bitcoin to fix the problem of conventional currency and conventional economic system. The technologies within Bitcoin allow a completely decentralized system based on a trustless system. That makes the currency are way ahead better than conventional currency, systematically, and in term technologies.
Crashes can still happen with Bitcoin-based economies. Markets still fluctuate and Bitcoin would essentially just be another moniker for fiat in the case of 2008, however, it would have had a different series of events leading up to the market crash.

Notionally, it could be argued that Bitcoin would be worse for a failing economy because the government wouldn't have any ability to pay its debts (in the form of printing money) and would be stuck in a bad economic position for a lot longer. Don't get me wrong, backed currencies (and Bitcoin, by extension) are a boon for an economy's health, but it doesn't fit within the current system that we have. There is a desperate need for a restructuring of the world economy before backed currencies can become viable, and sadly not a lot of countries want to undertake that paradigm shift.
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April 26, 2019, 09:05:57 PM
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Notionally, it could be argued that Bitcoin would be worse for a failing economy because the government wouldn't have any ability to pay its debts (in the form of printing money) and would be stuck in a bad economic position for a lot longer.

Governments already can't pay back their debt.

Look at the US for example, no amount of printing can halt the rate at which their debt is increasing day after day. All they can do is inject trillions in their economy to delay the process of seeing their economy implode, but that's obviously going to K.O. you in the long run.

Essentially, they can still print money with Bitcoin in place. All they have to do is build on top of Bitcoin the way Tether has done it. They can issue as many tokens as they wish. Currently we don't know how much fiat there is in circulation, but that's totally different in case they do have built their currency on top of Bitcoin. There is no way to cheat.
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April 26, 2019, 09:19:53 PM
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As indicated by the report of Goldman Sachs, Bitcoin and other digital forms of money can be a decent option in contrast to the national cash for nations with an unsteady economy.
Experts at Goldman Sachs Zack Pandle and Charles Himmelberg said that advanced monetary standards and, specifically, Bitcoin, can turn into a reasonable methods for installment in nations where conventional cash isn't adequately given.

It is indeed gainful for a country with unstable economy only if Bitcoin will continue to grow. For my point of view, a volatile kind of currency can carry the economy up and it also has a tendency to bring it down. So it's better not to totally rely on Bitcoin but instead make it an option to regain momentum in terms of financial aspects.

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April 26, 2019, 09:45:49 PM
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I think that this is one of the things where bitcoin can really make an impact, on a grassroot level.

There are countries previously hit by hyperinflation where its citizens were essentially forced to either barter (which is extremely inefficient), or transact with worn and torn dollar bills that are incredibly hard to obtain and were often illegal. Just look at Zimbabwe, and Venezuela in recent memory.

BTC not only can be used as a store of value in these times when a fiat currencies have collapsed, it can also function as a currency, which is something that gold and silver can do but doesn't do as well as bitcoin given its inconveniences.
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April 27, 2019, 06:02:34 AM
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Bitcoin is not an option in a collapsing economy, but it is a solution.

I disagree, I believe it's just an option because there are ways to help the collapsing economy, like increasing the business opportunity to enter in a country, or solve the corruption within the government as that one could be major reason why an economy will collapse.

Bitcoin on the other hand is still new or at its early stage, we cannot be certain that it will have bigger demand in the future, and like we witness in the past, it can dump hard because manipulation is still happening.

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April 27, 2019, 08:54:55 AM
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Seems like people like Goldman has been opened for new solutions in the economic issues. But, i was just thinking. If it is neccessarily to use bitcoin to solve such economic crisis, how will it can be of help if the price of btc immediately fluctuates? We are not talking about the technology given by btc, but OP emphasized the reasonable methods of installment using btc payments.

 We all know that btc is volatile, thus can also be put into consideration. Don't get me wrong, but I was just thinking if it can be really an aid to one's economic situation if the price is not stable.
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April 27, 2019, 09:39:10 AM
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I think bitcoin can be a solution for people to avoid inflation, with the decentralisation bitcoin won't be too affected by global crisis and it could help people to get a better life, by providing more job opportunities when the economic collapsed, but I don't think bitcoin could be the solution to solve the crisis problem, it could be  a temporary solution
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April 27, 2019, 09:49:40 AM
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I think that this is one of the things where bitcoin can really make an impact, on a grassroot level.

There are countries previously hit by hyperinflation where its citizens were essentially forced to either barter (which is extremely inefficient), or transact with worn and torn dollar bills that are incredibly hard to obtain and were often illegal. Just look at Zimbabwe, and Venezuela in recent memory.

BTC not only can be used as a store of value in these times when a fiat currencies have collapsed, it can also function as a currency, which is something that gold and silver can do but doesn't do as well as bitcoin given its inconveniences.

In both Zimbabwe and Venezuela, it was the wealthy who used bitcoin (they had access to smart phones, the internet, and a reliable power generator attached to their homes).

The poor use dollar bills, because you don't need any tech to use them. Zimbabwe even legalised the use of dollars, euros and pounds because they reckoned that allowing people to use them stabalised the country.

 
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April 27, 2019, 09:54:08 AM
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I think the allowance and regulations of bitcoin alone could create a lot of tax income for any country, if you are from a country that is in need of fresh money to increase the GDP and give your public a chance to actually survive then creating a cryptocurrency economy will help you a lot by paying you taxes on the crypto income which will in return used for the betterment of that public.

Even companies overseas that are not living under relax regulations for bitcoin or any other crypto will COME to your country just because you have better tax regulations. That will be the savior of any countries economy if only they could take advantage of that but I doubt anywhere big will do that now and all small ones are looked too unstable to test something like that for now.

Any country that is smart will know that fighting Bitcoin is just wasted effort. You either cash in by being a part of it or you lose revenue by banning it. I mean,,, even you should look at Thailand they allowed crypto but will impose such high taxes, but in the end at least businesses have an outlet and yes, the state gains something out of it. And you are absolutely right, if you run,,, things catch up with you, one day sooner or later!

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April 27, 2019, 11:53:10 AM
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As indicated by the report of Goldman Sachs, Bitcoin and other digital forms of money can be a decent option in contrast to the national cash for nations with an unsteady economy.
Experts at Goldman Sachs Zack Pandle and Charles Himmelberg said that advanced monetary standards and, specifically, Bitcoin, can turn into a reasonable methods for installment in nations where conventional cash isn't adequately given.
Until now I only see positive thing in bitcoin usage. Bad news that spread are mostly about crime that done by some people. Maybe that experts at goldman sachs is right, also I think nations with unsteady economy need bitcoin because it can help their citizens to become wealthier so it economy can be stronger.
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April 27, 2019, 02:09:09 PM
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As indicated by the report of Goldman Sachs, Bitcoin and other digital forms of money can be a decent option in contrast to the national cash for nations with an unsteady economy.
Experts at Goldman Sachs Zack Pandle and Charles Himmelberg said that advanced monetary standards and, specifically, Bitcoin, can turn into a reasonable methods for installment in nations where conventional cash isn't adequately given.
big time is mostly used for creating a changes in anyone's life so the economic situation always depends on the money only so it definitely change is it when its development was increased to a good level.
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April 27, 2019, 04:55:07 PM
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As indicated by the report of Goldman Sachs, Bitcoin and other digital forms of money can be a decent option in contrast to the national cash for nations with an unsteady economy.
Experts at Goldman Sachs Zack Pandle and Charles Himmelberg said that advanced monetary standards and, specifically, Bitcoin, can turn into a reasonable methods for installment in nations where conventional cash isn't adequately given.
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Experts at Goldman Sachs Zack Pandle and Charles Himmelberg said that advanced monetary standards and, specifically, Bitcoin, can turn into a reasonable methods for installment in nations where conventional cash isn't adequately given.
If they are talking about countries who currently have hyperinflation like Venezuela then they might be wrong about it, you see in places just like this even any foreign currency is affected when use in that country, just by having a foreign currency doesn't mean it will be immune to inflation in that country. You see inflation here affects two things aside from the devaluation of money you will also encounter the increase in price for goods which is common when the supply runs out. So this means even let say the US Dollar is backed by its country it doesn't mean that it's value for that country will be the same all through out. Their statement might be partly through but it cannot be applied to all countries' respective economies.

Just take a look at reuter's article on how the US dollar was affected even if it was a foreign currency in Venezuela.

Since Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro legalized the use of foreign currencies last year, they have increasingly become the norm in many aspects of life.

In border areas and major towns, doctors, merchants and even plumbers require payment in Colombian, Brazilian, U.S. or European currency.


But as basic goods become scarcer, even those able to pay in dollars are finding that inflation is soaring.

According to calculations by local firm Ecoanalitica, a basket of basic goods that would have cost $100 a year ago would now require $675 to purchase even in U.S. currency.


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April 27, 2019, 06:30:09 PM
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Undoubtedly, bitcoin can be (and has been) a reliable store of value in those countries whose economies have suffered considerable economic crises, as in the case of Venezuela, and that is why some dictatorial regimes are making efforts to veto the use of cryptocurrencies in their territories, or have failed to create a national "crypto", such as the Venezuelan "Petro".

Fortunately, none of these attempts has worked, and bitcoin continues to be sought out assiduously by people from these countries, but unfortunately its technology has not been available to the great unprotected masses of the poorest sectors.

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April 27, 2019, 07:38:48 PM
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As indicated by the report of Goldman Sachs, Bitcoin and other digital forms of money can be a decent option in contrast to the national cash for nations with an unsteady economy.
Experts at Goldman Sachs Zack Pandle and Charles Himmelberg said that advanced monetary standards and, specifically, Bitcoin, can turn into a reasonable methods for installment in nations where conventional cash isn't adequately given.

Although bitcoin is the latest technology in the world of finance rather than perfect money created by the government, however its immediate benefits can truly be felt by many parties because bitcoin does not favor one currency only meaning globally it can be exchanged for national currencies any country. So what Goldman Sachs Zack Pandle and Charles Himmelberg say is true because bitcoin has met the standards for these criteria.

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April 27, 2019, 08:38:22 PM
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Undoubtedly, bitcoin can be (and has been) a reliable store of value in those countries whose economies have suffered considerable economic crises, as in the case of Venezuela, and that is why some dictatorial regimes are making efforts to veto the use of cryptocurrencies in their territories, or have failed to create a national "crypto", such as the Venezuelan "Petro".

Fortunately, none of these attempts has worked, and bitcoin continues to be sought out assiduously by people from these countries, but unfortunately its technology has not been available to the great unprotected masses of the poorest sectors.

Just to add, one of the problems of these countries are basing their debts outside of their own currency. The amount they owe to whatever currency they decided to base their debts are directly proportional with the amount they had to pay. It will undoubtedly increase overtime and the dire results will show.

Bitcoin, on the other hand doesn't promise anything about gains but you will surely lose more if you put money in here. Its about time we stop thinking that if they did this and that, something will change.
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April 27, 2019, 09:00:33 PM
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I think it would help a lot in blockchain ways and not currency ways. We already have a lot of countries who are basically third world and having issues, reaching to those people is the biggest expense ever. I have read somewhere that 70% of all charity money towards African poor people goes towards reaching that money to those people instead of directly to that people, you can just write money on bank to someone who is eating leafs in Yemen, those people do not have access to technology the way we do.

If you can actually build a blockchain infrastructure which is just mobile phones basically than they could have better chance, just one time payment from charity or something to make sure every house hold has one mobile phone than all money can directly go to people in need. That is why I think blockchain is the savior of these people who are living under harsh conditions and not bitcoin itself, it could be any coin but it has to be blockchain based.
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agree, bitcoin is a decentralized cryptocurrency or digital currency that allows no influence on the crisis that happened. that way bitcoin will have the ability to continue to increase in accordance with the demand that happen. this is very good for an economic growth or helping economic growth to keep the crisis from happening globally

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April 29, 2019, 06:47:03 AM
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agree, bitcoin is a decentralized cryptocurrency or digital currency that allows no influence on the crisis that happened. that way bitcoin will have the ability to continue to increase in accordance with the demand that happen. this is very good for an economic growth or helping economic growth to keep the crisis from happening globally

currently bitcoin has indeed been beneficial for economic growth, for example many people whose economic level has increased because they have joined in the crypto currency trading. so that it helps the country increase the income per capita of the community.
and indirectly it has helped improve the country's economy.
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