Betcoin.AG fraud

[sportsbookmonitor]

Betcoin.AG has deleted no less than 1000 posts from their thread from no less than 100 members. It seems they have now locked their own thread so that no one can mention their scam in their thread.

Let that sink in.

They have scammed, robbed, and defrauded tens of thousands of customers in their brief history.

The only question is when they get tired of slowly scamming and robbing their customers and disappear into the shadows, robbing everyone of every single penny they have put on the site.

Please PM me for a full accounting of their fraud and deception and theft.

Stick to Nitrogensports.eu and bookmaker.eu if you want to gamble with bitcoin in the US online.

[AB de Royse777]

Instead of PMing you, I believe opening an scam accusation will work better. The community can decide what to do with them (if they have a profile in BitcoinTalk)


Keep things public if there are no sensitive information.

[kerrywoodwins20]

Instead of PMing you, I believe opening an scam accusation will work better. The community can decide what to do with them (if they have a profile in BitcoinTalk)


Keep things public if there are no sensitive information.

How does one open a scam accusation?

Betcoin.AG has scammed hundreds of people. They should be banned here.

[Genemind]

Instead of PMing you, I believe opening an scam accusation will work better. The community can decide what to do with them (if they have a profile in BitcoinTalk)


Keep things public if there are no sensitive information.

How does one open a scam accusation?

Betcoin.AG has scammed hundreds of people. They should be banned here.

You can check out this thread and start a Scam Accusation.

Here is their manager's Account: Betcoin.Ag , he is currently online now. Would be best to call his attention regarding your concern.

Here is their Main thread.

[carlfebz2]

Betcoin.ag is under on a new management and they are trying to resolve those past issues.I have seen some thread talking about it.They might have that fraud issue but just give them sometime to resolve it.

You can post up on scam accusations board if you do really wish to make some arguments.Its already given above and its good to lock up this thread.

[jazmuzika217]

Try to make thread about scam accusation to discuss their reputation because this is under new management I dont know if this issue resolve.
But the best you can do is to create thread in Scam accusation then the DT will try to resolve this issue.

[Betcoin.AG]

Hi sportsbookmonitor,
We notice that your name changed to kerrywoodwins20 halfway through this thread. We see that you enjoy creating multiple accounts on BitcoinTalk, just as much as you did on Betcoin.ag a year ago when we blocked your first account.

We banned your account, kerrywoodwins20, due to the numerous death threats issued against our staff on April 28, 2018.

You then created another account, javybaez2020, to circumvent the ban on May 2, 2018. When this account was discovered, it was banned for multi-accounting. Several times you asked us to have your account reopened and we said we would think about it.

On March 10, 2019 you begged for your account back, once again, and promised that you would stop defaming us on forums and that you would treat our support staff with respect. We allowed you to reopen your account under several conditions which were broken almost immediately. Between then and now you asked to have your account closed twice when we refused to give you additional bonuses and both times, you asked to have your account reopened within 2 days.

On April 18, you asked to have your account closed because you were compensated for a dispute (which we now know was a lie) and we accidentally added 30 extra chips which we immediately removed and you said if we couldnt give you the extra chips back you no longer wanted to play here.
You came straight to the forums and after we exposed several lies you told, you deleted your posts and begged us to come back, once again. You have been begging us this for the last 8 days, sending a total of 3 support tickets and 7 emails during this time, apologizing and requesting to have your account reopened.

So clearly, you want to play here. Unfortunately, despite your constant begging and apologies, we still cannot allow you to have an account due to your wasting staff time with hundreds of support tickets, mood swings and death threats.

We will not hesitate to post proof of your lies, if you continue this smear campaign.

Either way, we recommend playing at the book that you trust the most, just like our tens of thousands of weekly users, who are very happy with the site. We look forward to your next request to have your account reopened.

[Jaycee99]

Instead of PMing you, I believe opening an scam accusation will work better. The community can decide what to do with them (if they have a profile in BitcoinTalk)


Keep things public if there are no sensitive information.

agree opening a topic is good and but I disagree with you that OPs should ask and get a Pm about the the scam, but (sorry but Iam saying is just what is right from my view and I am not on any side) OPs as you ask to PM you why not let them post it here in your thread so they the public can be informed and be alert.

Also there is a lesson that when entering on any kind of business that will let you give your money out from your pocket it is a big gamble so in my opinion be ready for anything and well it happen so just like you did you post to keep the public here well informed.


but.....

Hi sportsbookmonitor,
We notice that your name changed to kerrywoodwins20 halfway through this thread. We see that you enjoy creating multiple accounts on BitcoinTalk, just as much as you did on Betcoin.ag a year ago when we blocked your first account......

I don't know what is true and I did not join what you previously joined you might saying that I should be out of this issue. I just want to help and give out my opinion. So if this may be true find a way to get more information in other words proof. BUT IF You do feel that you are right fight it until you get what you want, try and try but if you lose and did not get what you want because you are wrong let us just move on. Also I don't mean that you should not give up today...

because seeing that This account contains red trust.

Also coming from the replies getting red trust is enough but foe the replies getting betcoin.AG banned that is  the people that is the  bitcointalk head.

[TravelMug]

Instead of PMing you, I believe opening an scam accusation will work better. The community can decide what to do with them (if they have a profile in BitcoinTalk)


Keep things public if there are no sensitive information.

I don't think that scam accusations is needed. They have been flagged years ago as far as I know. They started to have a good reputation, unfortunately, there have been lots of scams against them in late 2016 or early 2017 if I'm not mistaken.

[FIFA worldcup]

Hi sportsbookmonitor,
We notice that your name changed to kerrywoodwins20 halfway through this thread. We see that you enjoy creating multiple accounts on BitcoinTalk, just as much as you did on Betcoin.ag a year ago when we blocked your first account.

We banned your account, kerrywoodwins20, due to the numerous death threats issued against our staff on April 28, 2018.

You then created another account, javybaez2020, to circumvent the ban on May 2, 2018. When this account was discovered, it was banned for multi-accounting. Several times you asked us to have your account reopened and we said we would think about it.

On March 10, 2019 you begged for your account back, once again, and promised that you would stop defaming us on forums and that you would treat our support staff with respect. We allowed you to reopen your account under several conditions which were broken almost immediately. Between then and now you asked to have your account closed twice when we refused to give you additional bonuses and both times, you asked to have your account reopened within 2 days.

On April 18, you asked to have your account closed because you were compensated for a dispute (which we now know was a lie) and we accidentally added 30 extra chips which we immediately removed and you said if we couldnt give you the extra chips back you no longer wanted to play here.
You came straight to the forums and after we exposed several lies you told, you deleted your posts and begged us to come back, once again. You have been begging us this for the last 8 days, sending a total of 3 support tickets and 7 emails during this time, apologizing and requesting to have your account reopened.

So clearly, you want to play here. Unfortunately, despite your constant begging and apologies, we still cannot allow you to have an account due to your wasting staff time with hundreds of support tickets, mood swings and death threats.

We will not hesitate to post proof of your lies, if you continue this smear campaign.

Either way, we recommend playing at the book that you trust the most, just like our tens of thousands of weekly users, who are very happy with the site. We look forward to your next request to have your account reopened.

If Betcoin.AG is right here than the OP should stop creating multiple accounts and try to portrait the wrong image of the gambling site.
As far as i know, betcoin.ag has few incidents in the past too where people try to claim them as scam, but they proof them wrong too.

[Bitinity]

Instead of PMing you, I believe opening an scam accusation will work better. The community can decide what to do with them (if they have a profile in BitcoinTalk)


Keep things public if there are no sensitive information.

How does one open a scam accusation?

Betcoin.AG has scammed hundreds of people. They should be banned here.

Really? Hundreds of people? If it is true, then it must be easy for you to prove with at least 10 valid scammed people.
There is no way to ban account in this forum just because scam accusation, as a ban is not for that thing imho.

[nauane]

Instead of PMing you, I believe opening an scam accusation will work better. The community can decide what to do with them (if they have a profile in BitcoinTalk)


Keep things public if there are no sensitive information.

How does one open a scam accusation?

Betcoin.AG has scammed hundreds of people. They should be banned here.

Really? Hundreds of people? If it is true, then it must be easy for you to prove with at least 10 valid scammed people.
There is no way to ban account in this forum just because scam accusation, as a ban is not for that thing imho.

Exactly, anyone should not be allowed to put a scam accusation on anyone without valid proofs. And / Or if the person claiming for scam accusation against anyone is proof to be wrong, He should be punished too.

[Haunebu]

Instead of PMing you, I believe opening an scam accusation will work better. The community can decide what to do with them (if they have a profile in BitcoinTalk)


Keep things public if there are no sensitive information.

I don't think that scam accusations is needed. They have been flagged years ago as far as I know. They started to have a good reputation, unfortunately, there have been lots of scams against them in late 2016 or early 2017 if I'm not mistaken.

What do you mean? This thread belongs in scam accusations since op is accusing Betcoin and calling it a scam. Just because a new management has come into place, it certainly does not mean that they can start on a clean slate.

They need to resolve all these queries asap.

[markstivn98]

We must provide evidence to prevent other people from falling into fraud,Then open the Beware Scam.
Also, people who have confidence are red ,You can not trust them
Most of the operations it provides are scams.

[nakamura12]

Op I suggest you stop creating accusation threads if you don't have proof that they scam people. Well, if you did have proof then start a scam accusation of the said site to let the staff in bitcointalk do the rest with the site's bitcointalk account and resolve any problems that the two party have been facing.

[tokeweed]

Hi sportsbookmonitor,
We notice that your name changed to kerrywoodwins20 halfway through this thread. We see that you enjoy creating multiple accounts on BitcoinTalk, just as much as you did on Betcoin.ag a year ago when we blocked your first account.

We banned your account, kerrywoodwins20, due to the numerous death threats issued against our staff on April 28, 2018.

LOL.  That must've been hilarious.  Can you share what were written in the said death threats?  And he prolly lost a sh* ton on the tables if he resorted to death threats.

I've seen degens go ape sh*t on a bad run at black jack.  I mean I can feel their pain but it's sooo hilarious at the same time.

[kerrywoodwins20]

For what it's worth, Betcoin.AG has publicly admitted their fraud and also not compensated anyone for it.

Their sports bets used to have a negative line movement that got automatically approved on all wagers made.

I'll give an example so everyone knows what is happening here.

Customer places a bet on the New England Patriots -110 to win the game. He clicks accept. The bet takes 10-15 seconds to process, during that 10-15 seconds, the line would move to -160 and automatically accept. The customer had NO rejection rights on that line shift massively against him.

This happened to me on wagers for as much as -400 on the moneylines of games.

Interestingly enough, if the line moved positively in the bettor's favor, that did not automatically accept. You got the worse line.

This was called a "glitch" publicly by Betcoin.AG, but in actuality, it was designed to do this and they knew that. Process the bad line movements. Reject the good line movements and revert back to the old accepted line.


They stole tens, probably hundreds of thousands of dollars from sports customers this way.

They've admitted this "glitch" and yet compensated no one.

They are an admitted scam book.

[Betcoin.AG]

Hi, if this is accurate why have you sent us 20+ messages begging for your account back and why did you post this a couple days ago?



In case you decide to pretend this isn't you again, here is our proof.


That makes 3 known BitcoinTalk accounts you are using in this attempt to defame the site.

We aren't going to keep responding to this, because we are busy taking care of our legitimate players who do not accuse us of wrongdoing while creating new accounts to circumvent a ban. We see you are already having trouble at your new book. Best of luck to you.

[kryptqnick]

Op, the shady past of Betcoin.ag is widely known. The most popular story is related to not paying our a jackpot to the winner. The casino has new management, but since the former bad things weren't fixed, you can see them having negative trust on this forum. Look through the negative trust to see the reasons mentioned there. Then, if you got new stories to add, feel free to open a scam accusation in the relevant section. This will remind people to be cautious (especially if you have something on the new management) as well as might add some more negative trust.
As for the request to have them banned, it is not likely to be satisfied. Take a look at the relevant question and answer here to see why: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0.

[Betcoin.AG]

Hello, the negative trust is all from 2016 and as you stated, it is based on the jasonort jackpot situation which occurred 3 years ago. What happened here, was that a player had a losing spin on a bonus, and because Betsoft had a misprint in their terms, it appeared to be a jackpot spin. This was quickly resolved amicably with the player, and he continued to play at our site. Proof of this resolution can be found here:
https://thepogg.com/complaint/betcoin-ag-progressive-jackpot-was-not-paid-for-winning-spin/
And here (please review his comment):
https://www.betcoin.ag/jasonort-case-resolution
Despite the situation being resolved, our competitors spread this rumor about the site to attempt to ruin our reputation.

Since that situation 3 years ago, we had a player who won the equivalent of nearly $400,000 USD at the time, on a sign-up bonus and he was paid within a day. That is more than the amount of the jackpot that was supposedly denied to this other player. Here is a link to this story:
https://bitcoinchaser.com/casino/betcoin-player-wins-55-btc-welcome-bonus/

When the new group took over Betcoin in 2017, the jasonort situation was analysed carefully, and we decided that this product has too much potential to not get involved. Our negative feedback on BitcoinTalk is solely based on that on that one incident.  When the situation occurred we were -512 rating and now we are -31. Every person that we have reached out to and gotten a hold of has reversed their negative feedback, one of who even changed it to positive. We have worked very hard on improving our reputation as well as the product. Our withdrawals and support tickets are both averaging around 15 minutes and we are hoping to improve on even that.

If you have any questions/concerns, please contact us via PM or support ticket through Betcoin.ag. Thank you and good luck all!