Proper way to get Apology

[TalkStar]

Hello Guys,

Welcome to my thread. Today I am going to discuss about a matter which specially relates with our forum trust system. As we all know that our current trust system has done a great impact to keep the forum much reliable than ever. Personally I appreciate this as a well approach which already helped our community members and users in many ways. In recent time some topic which are actually relates with this trust system has been a matter of concern IMO. Most of these topics are against of negative trust. I have noticed that after getting negative feedback some are trying to leave the forum although I don't believe that they will leave this forum forever but I strongly believe that they will come back again with new look up.  In some cases most of them are trying to make fake arguments where as a result they are getting multiple negative trust. Honestly in every single time they are putting one sided blame on forum DT members but none of them are ready to acknowledge their own fault. Its really strange to have this similar blame in every negative trust related argumentative topics.

I think as we are all human where doing mistakes isn't a rare thing. But after getting negative feedback we don't expect this kind of behavior from someone where he/she should try to find a way of apology. As a forum member I believe that among those mistakes there's been a lot of issues which are worthy of Apology. Our honorable forum admin already suggested our DT members to think about our community members past mistakes if they are considerable. Unfortunately we like arguments rather than apology. I don't know why those guys always deny to confess their own fault but making the situation much complicated.

I have some personal suggestion for all forum members which can be helpful for removing negative feedback. If i were a DT member then obviously i would consider some of those mistakes which are pardonable. So i think after getting negative feedback from a DT member still there’s been chances to remove them if you are enough loyal to accept your own fault. Several things could be helpful. Such as;

1. Show the mentality to accept your own fault.

2. Don't create multiple thread instantly against DT members about your negative feedbacks.

3. Contact via PM to him/her who have left negative feedback and try to convince by accepting your own fault because nobody will not tagged you without your mistakes.

4. If you unable to remove your feedback by PM then stay calm and try to reform your mistakes first.

5. Contribute yourself for forums community which will keep the chances of getting your Apology alive and prove yourself as a decent forum user.

6. After completing all above these you can contact again that DT member via PM and I believe that DT member will pardon you if that is pardonable.

7. If you still fail to get your apology then you can create a thread on this board with the title "letter of Apology" where you can describe about your mistake, reform, contribution etc.

8. If you try to get apology by abiding above steps then it will draw other DT members attention to reconsider your feedback.

9. Don't open argumentative thread which can increase the chances of getting more negative feedbacks.

10. Don't offer ransom payment Which will completely destroy all the chances of getting apology.

Conclusion: Recently I have seen two cases one is about "Ransom offer" and another one is  "Account buy". In both of the case their negative feedback increased due to making false argumentative thread. Maybe some abuser can think that I am taking the the side of DT members but its really important for users to get apology by abiding proper steps to remove negative feedbacks from their account IMO.

[TheUltraElite]

Stop giving false hope to abusers.

Those who buy/sell accounts in this forum are never ever going to get their negative trust into neutral trust. These things allow scammers to come into the forum in the reputation of a trusted person thus making their scam almost 99% effective. Similarly escrow scammers also unpardonable.

I am not like the liberals of this forum who end up turning negative trust to neutral trust even when the person is confirmed to have bought accounts in the past and then started acting nice and cozy for 1month.

[yahoo62278]

If you are not engaging in account sales and building your account from scratch you wouldn't need to worry about an apology to anyone.

Guys want to come here to earn money but have no patience at all. I would say to them, don't fall into the trap. Make your account, and while trying to rank up and earn merits, read all the stickies posted in all sections. Especially read the stickies in meta section.

It's not as if a newbie cannot make money, it's just in smaller portions in the beginning. Quite a few of the bounties offered here offer high rates based on the number of friends/followers you have on Twitter or Facebook. Has nothing to do with the account rank.

Once a user is found to be an abuser/account buyer, they are screwed forever. Even on new accounts they might make.

It's the same as a permaban really. Once you fuck up on your account you screw yourself for the future. Much better to read and learn and follow the rules from the start.

[The Cryptovator]

Guys want to come here to earn money but have no patience at all. I would say to them, don't fall into the trap. Make your account, and while trying to rank up and earn merits

That's the main problem, this forum wasn't created for earn money. But unfortunately most of new users are joining for earn money especially from bounty. I am not getting it negatively since forum give this opportunity. But we forgot the aim of this forum and slowly our greedy mind throw us on corruption. Once newbie notice that ranked members are earning good, then they become crazy to build their account. Few of them have no enough patience and try to build account and reputation within very short time. So automatically they are involving with abusive behavior and eventually ends up with negative feedback's.


However, I will not say that OP all point is invalid. I am saying always that "don't open feedback's removal thread if you are not legit enough", it would increase your negative feedback's and ratings. And fortunately its happening. I am trying to point out always, "silence is better than violence sometimes" , violence might destroy your whole reputation.  Most of argumentative threads highlight themselves for getting more negative feedback's. Its like OP(abuser) calling more DT for draw attention to him. In a result abuser ending up with more negatives impact.

By the way, OP brought up few true logic, perhaps it would help few soft abuser.  

[niotib]

Conclusion: Recently I have seen two cases one is about "Ransom offer" and another one is  "Account buy". In both of the case their negative feedback increased due to making false argumentative thread. Maybe some abuser can think that I am taking the the side of DT members but its really important for users to get apology by abiding proper steps to remove negative feedbacks from their account IMO.

As long as you've mentioned my thread "Ransom offer", I think  I also have some comment here. (Perhaps, I'll get another red trust after telling this) I don't need to change anything, I don't want to correct any one, but, through the "ransom offer" incident, I captured two DTs not deserve to work as DTs. I'll disclose information to the forum community when I'm free.   

Every dark cloud has a silver lining!! !

[TalkStar]

As long as you've mentioned my thread "Ransom offer", I think  I also have some comment here. (Perhaps, I'll get another red trust after telling this) I don't need to change anything, I don't want to correct any one, but, through the "ransom offer" incident, I captured two DTs not deserve to work as DTs. I'll disclose information to the forum community when I'm free.  

Every dark cloud has a silver lining!! !

I have already mentioned some proper way which can help our community members to get apology but it really depends on that exactly you are worthy of it or not. After seeing a comment like "I don't need to change anything" honestly there's nothing left for you IMO. I want to point out somethings which are going against proper way of apology. Follow below;

# Firstly you don't want to change anything that means you haven't got the mentality to accept your fault which I have already mentioned on point number 1.

# you don't want to correct anyone that means you have no intention to reform yourself which already described on point number 4.

# Ransom offer incident already described on point number 10

So you have already broken multiple number of proper direction.I think you have already loses a big percentage of getting the chances of having apology from other DT members IMO.

[niotib]

So you have already broken multiple number of proper direction.I think you have already loses a big percentage of getting the chances of having apology from other DT members IMO.

I'll merit your thread (in words) since there's something to adsorb through your information, not for me, for other users.

But, I'm suggesting to everyone that not to sacrifice your personality at a mirage.

Need proof?

This DT is well demonstrating the truth what I said earlier.

Stop giving false hope to abusers.

Those who buy/sell accounts in this forum are never ever going to get their negative trust into neutral trust. These things allow scammers to come into the forum in the reputation of a trusted person thus making their scam almost 99% effective. Similarly escrow scammers also unpardonable.

I am not like the liberals of this forum who end up turning negative trust to neutral trust even when the person is confirmed to have bought accounts in the past and then started acting nice and cozy for 1month.

This is the mind of "some" DTs... If you'll be tagged by kind of DT, he'll never give you the apology. So, IF YOU ALSO WOULD BE DONE SOMETHING SHITTY (Like me) AND YOU'RE TAGGED BY KIND OF DT MIND,  DON'T ASSIGN YOUR SOUL AT SOMEONE BY ASKING APOLOGIES, since you never get it.

Under that kind of situation, you've two options... Be silent and leave away as a PONZI or show DTs (Not all of them, over 85% of DTs are legit & handsome in behavior) their own nudity, infancy and  human imperfection (Not personally, ideologically) and be a different type of contributor.  

[cabalism13]

Stop giving false hope to abusers.

Well, this may apply on those users who was promoting scam campaigns on the past, just like on marlboroza's and Vod's thread lately, though only some of those users has apologized for what have they done in the past.

2nd chances does only depends upon the situation but I think there's no need to apologize, as for I think it way better than to prove themselves worthy to be forgiven.

[nutildah]

Also, don't call the DT a scammer while trying to bribe them... I mean you shouldn't do either of those things separately, but also not simultaneously:

Please scammer accept my doge, lets negotiate your price, i only have doge, is the only i can afford, please scammer

 

[TheUltraElite]

2nd chances does only depends upon the situation but I think there's no need to apologize, as for I think it way better than to prove themselves worthy to be forgiven.

Stop being liberal about abusers. Once a account trader always an untrustworthy individual. They do not deserve to be accepted in this community anymore. They are anyway going to come back with a new persona just like every other neg trusted scammer here but that cannot be prevented since the forum administration is like that - so we will try to prevent what we can. Thus if they are negged for account sales they are not going to be pardoned, ever.

Coming back to @noitib's words, they were negged because they were asking for a ransom offer to get negative trust removed. I am sure everyone here will agree with my words that they dont deserve another chance at all. Its not about me or any other DT. Its the consensus here. Not adhering to that means you are siding with the scammers.

[hugeblack]

Getting a negative trust will not stop you from gaining knowledge and learning more through this forum, just reducing your chances of getting a profit.
If you are planning to make some money, you have to read the rules and educate yourself about things that may be considered negative indicators of DT forum members, such as selling accounts, participation in a Bumping campaign, ...etc.
If you do not care about this, you are not entitled to demand the removal of negative trust.
In short, you should know what is the reason of that trust if it is logical, Just go on and learn more. Life is not dependent on signatures campaigns.

[coolcoinz]

Also, don't call the DT a scammer while trying to bribe them... I mean you shouldn't do either of those things separately, but also not simultaneously:

Please scammer accept my doge, lets negotiate your price, i only have doge, is the only i can afford, please scammer

 

That guy must be nuts to start this kind of a thread. If the "scammer" accept the bribe, both of them will get red trust from someone else. If he doesn't, someone else will neg the OP for attempting to buy trust. Sometimes it's better to forget about it and keep doing your thing. It's just trust on a forum, life goes on.
Most of us have experienced a situation of walking home in the evening and hearing some drunk guy mumbling something offensive like "what you're looking at bitch?"
There's really no point going there and trying to have a chat with him. It's always a lose-lose situation if you don't walk away from it.

Getting a negative trust will not stop you from gaining knowledge and learning more through this forum, just reducing your chances of getting a profit.
If you are planning to make some money, you have to read the rules and educate yourself about things that may be considered negative indicators of DT forum members, such as selling accounts, participation in a Bumping campaign, ...etc.
If you do not care about this, you are not entitled to demand the removal of negative trust.
In short, you should know what is the reason of that trust if it is logical, Just go on and learn more. Life is not dependent on signatures campaigns.

I thought OP was talking about apologizing vs abandoning the account, not leaving the forum entirely. Making a new account or simply not posting anymore because you feel bad with red trust doesn't stop you from being here, reading and learning. The important part is not to get angry and frustrated at people who don't trust you.

[marlboroza]

I have better solution. Don't make shits which will result in steps 1-10.

[TalkStar]

Getting a negative trust will not stop you from gaining knowledge and learning more through this forum, just reducing your chances of getting a profit.

Yeah agree with your thinking. Expanding knowledge or learning from forum is always appreciated and it has no connection with negative trust.

I thought OP was talking about apologizing vs abandoning the account, not leaving the forum entirely. Making a new account or simply not posting anymore because you feel bad with red trust doesn't stop you from being here, reading and learning. The important part is not to get angry and frustrated at people who don't trust you.

Leaving the forum isn't proper a solution In my view. Its another kind of disrespecting behaviour which again confirm that he doesn't care about DTs decission and forum community too.  If anyone abandon his/her account that means he will come back again with another account including worse planning. At that situation its kinda harder to trace that person as a untrusted user. In this case if they try to reform themselves by following proper steps of getting apology then I think nothing bad in that.

I have better solution. Don't make shits which will result in steps 1-10.

Absolutely I am completely agree with you. If they really think about forum and their own then I hope they will not think to make any shits around this community.  

[xolxol]

DT Members are not special the only advantage they have is the trust score,so why are we going to kneel to these morons? they dont even have enough knowledge in the technology they only knew how to post in meta and reputation playing police wannabe roles.