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April 29, 2019, 10:16:11 AM
Merited by krogothmanhattan (1)
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Alright so I received this negative feedback from fattcatt yesterday:

"Took someone else's idea, "Be You Own Bank" and made a line of coins, calling them his own. Not creative enough to do something original like everyone else did. Plagiarizes and cashes in on it. Most of us have talked about it, we ALL think it, you seem to be the only one who thinks it's all right to do that sort of thing. Laughable. You're a joke."

I'd like to open this topic on this board to see if we could get a discussion going.. If anyone besides fattcatt feels this way I'd very much like to hear it as that is something that I'll take very personally to try and both improve myself and make sure never happens again.

Just for clarification, every design for the coins have been made up in my head and I've then explained a bit to a few people to get their opinions and then sent it to the mints designer to get a mockup of it. I've never used any images online to get any of the designs so I'm not sure if plagiarizing fits the bill. I was under the impression that "Be Your Own Bank" was sort of a slogan for doing crypto and never claimed I came up with it.

Would just like to hear your thoughts.

Local Rule - fattcatt is not allowed to post in this thread.

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April 29, 2019, 10:26:54 AM
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Fattcatt is sick; there is nothing wrong with your coins.

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April 29, 2019, 10:27:31 AM
Merited by Hhampuz (1)
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I like your coins. They are round but most coins are. Like you have started to load them.

Fattcatt probably frustrated and looking for something to tag you with. It is a disadvantage of the system that people make revenge.

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April 29, 2019, 10:44:31 AM
Merited by Hhampuz (1), krogothmanhattan (1)
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Buddy, Fattcatt's feedback shows as "Untrusted" for a reason. Smiley
Don't let yourself be derailed by people attacking you.
Given how high you fly, there is quite a few angles to get to you, and it's always easier to hurt people rather than pulling out fingers and do something constructive.

I don't want to analyze the fatty antisocial behavior further, ain't nobody got time for that, but they certainly are irritated by something you do or did, for whatever reason.
I believe if they were a bit less egocentric and agreed to let go auctioned items at not satisfactory prices for them, there wouldn't be so much drama.
In the end, they can only blame themselves because they ruined it all.
They didn't understand that it should be better to publicly apologize in Reputation, state they understood what happened and promise it won't happen again.
They still don't, since they resort to trashing people. That won't fix a thing.
Ultimately, it's up to them to decide if they want to fit in and respect the consensus or rules that is established, or don't respect it.
If they don't, well it's only them to blame, it means this place is not right for them.
Leaving feedbacks to warn other people that this user doesn't care about the set of rules that is established as a consensus is good, since different parties can't expect a "regular" trade with Fattcatt.

Now about Be Your Own Bank.
I think the project is cool.
BYOB stands for "Bring Your Own Bottle" initially, and I like how you turned that festive acronym to apply it to physical bitcoins.

We are in a such particular time and place (regarding crypto-currencies and the technology of money since the dawn of humanity as we know it).
I believe that any project today in this space is niche and should be encouraged. It has lots of potential and is much more important than what we perceive.

Sure, there will always be controversed artists but you cannot be appreciated by everybody and abide to your own sense of morality at the same time.

TL;DR : It's easy to break stuff and hurt people, not that easy to build something. Keep doing what you're doing. You are nailing it. Smiley

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April 29, 2019, 10:59:49 AM
Merited by Hhampuz (1)
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I thought your coins promoted bitcoin with a clear message, with a great entry level price and not gouged to high hell.

rent my signature just PM me, or pay me to not post ;P
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April 29, 2019, 11:19:45 AM
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Love your coins...one will always find naysayers no matter how good a product is. Even the great artist Michelangelo had been criticised when he made David as per the book by Irving Stone..in the Agony and the Ecstasy...I looked up the story on the net and I think its a good read for you. Cheers!

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When Michelangelo was finishing the David, along came Piero Soderini, the town mayor or boss, to have a look. Michelangelo had put a canvas around the scaffolding so no one could watch him work. He didn’t like gawkers and he didn’t like intruders, not even patron intruders. So when he saw that canvas flap open and the mayor come in, though he had to smile, he must have cursed to himself.
Piero Soderini put on the show of the art connoisseur, walking around under the huge figure. “It’s coming along wonderfully,” said Piero Soderini. “But do you know what? The nose is too thick.”
Criticism like that must have made the irascible Master’s blood boil. He knew that from where Soderini was standing it was impossible to judge whether the nose or anything else was right. “Well, we’ll fix that right now,” he said; and quickly grabbing a hammer and chisel, climbed up the scaffold like a monkey. Clink, clink—Soderini heard the hammer against the chisel and saw marble dust fall. Clink some more. “How’s that?” Michelangelo called down from the scaffold. Of course he hadn’t touched the figure at all but only pretended to be altering the nose.
“Oh, that’s much better!” exclaimed the mayor. “Now you’ve really put life into it

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April 29, 2019, 11:34:36 AM
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Keep up the good work bud, I very much like your BYOB series.

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Hhampuz generally speaking not 100% of the people you encounter will like you, like what you do, etc.  Brush it off as some sort of backlash for some reason and walk past it.  Sounds like a vindictive comment to me.  To state "we talk about it and we ALL think it", I dont know what circles they run in but everyone I talk to like the coins you've put out.  I love them, they are clean af.  And one of the only makers on this board making coins with a theme behind it relevant to the btc/fiat difference.  Short of it is brush it off, I've bought each of your releases and plan on buying them going forward I like your line of coins.   Cheesy




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I feel that you are worried about something that just is not the case!

People love your releases. You'd be made aware of it from multiple members if it was the contrary.

There will always be people with a critical view point, it's just how it is.

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I feel that you are worried about something that just is not the case!

People love your releases. You'd be made aware of it from multiple members if it was the contrary.

There will always be people with a critical view point, it's just how it is.
+1

I said it before and I will say it again: I am impressed by the silver coin quality AND I really enjoy the BYOB theme you build around them. Already looking forward to add a 4th one to my current collection.
Also, regarding the plagiarism concerns: Artists copy and re-build and restructure old ideas all the time. I actually believe without it, there wouldn't be any progress at all - even the greatest artists "stole" and re-processed "old" ideas constantly (somtimes consciously, sometimes unconsciously). It's a totally natural part of any creative process and anyone stating otherwise just does not know much about them - but of course that's just my personal opinion. Cheesy

That being said, don't waste too much energy on negative input - it will always be a part of life, but not worth paying too much attention to it.

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Don't let someone get under your skin. All creations are subject to critisizm.

That said, there's a reason I own multiple sets of the BYOB released, they're worthy of collecting  Wink
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Thanks guys, much love <3

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April 29, 2019, 12:34:18 PM
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Be your own bank fits perfect on the coin and i like the designs. It is a slogan indeed and wildly used as you can see by this tweet.
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April 29, 2019, 12:45:26 PM
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Love the series!!  I own them all.  Cheesy

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April 29, 2019, 12:55:03 PM
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I own the entire series, multiples of some, so obviously I am a fan.


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April 29, 2019, 01:10:19 PM
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Because of everyone's opionon here it made me purchase one of these from hhampuz, to my understanding he doesn't have that many left :0

This is my first purchase of this series!

rent my signature just PM me, or pay me to not post ;P
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April 29, 2019, 03:01:26 PM
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"We ALL think it"...Not sure who she's talking about as I've yet to hear anyone say anything negative about your series, or even hint at it being a stolen/plagiarized idea.

"Be Your Own Bank" is certainly a popular BTC saying, and not something anyone owns. It's no different than people adding "Vires In Numeris" to their coins (which many have). I don't see it as anything more than a way to attack you and your reputation.
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April 29, 2019, 03:05:23 PM
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Change your tampon mate. Your gear is good, we all know it tell fattcatt to suck on one of your snow dildo’s. We know you still got your freezer stocked for your summer freaky fix.

Seriously man, you have come on as a decent maker don’t take one Haters word to heart

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April 30, 2019, 06:47:10 AM
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what everyone else said, keep releasing. looks like you have a big fan base here and i will continue to collect your coins.

what happened to fattcatt?

space for rent, shilling for sats
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April 30, 2019, 08:22:57 AM
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+1 I own multiple of your coins and love them. Nothing to worry about Cheesy
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