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Question: Satoshi tells you to use new client bitcoin 2.0
use it ( you would get a new token at the same worth if not more probably ) - 11 (55%)
don`t use it ( bitcoin probably drops in price ) - 2 (10%)
I mean why would you not use it LOL look at eth and eth classic (use it again, use both) - 7 (35%)
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April 30, 2019, 02:04:14 PM
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If Satoshi came out with Bitcoin2.0 would you use it over Bitcoin current client, if he advised you to and let you exchange your current btc into it? let`s say he used his keys to 100% prove it is the real person or team.

I highly doubt Satoshi would do any such stupid things, provided we are considering real satoshi here! Otherwise it will just end up being similar to BSV, which obviously we don't want! So I would probably stay with the original bitcoin but will keep the door open for rethinking looking at the community. I alone would not take the decision! So it depends!

Why would it be stupid, to see new and better features to bitcoin?
making the network faster?
making the wallet more responsive?
making the wallet size smaller?

do you still use windows 95 or me or 2000 or ms dos? or do you use the new windows that actually gets updates?  
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April 30, 2019, 02:08:45 PM
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so that would be enough for you? If I moved coins out of this address 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa you would trust that I am satoshi? (not saying I him just using a hypothetical situation)
What if someone found satoshi and tortured him for his keys? if someone is driving satoshi`s car, does that make them satoshi?

perhaps we should see 2-3 of the starting addresses move coins, would the re ensure you? and a post from the satoshi bitcoin talk forum account?
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April 30, 2019, 02:32:21 PM
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I believe there's a small faction in the community that has accepted that "Satoshi" has ALREADY come out with "Bitcoin 2.0". They call it,

Bitcoin Cash SV, Satoshi's Vision.

But deep inside they know it's stupid. Cool

I mean how did they confirm Satoshi created it? because of the name like wtf?
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April 30, 2019, 02:38:13 PM
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so that would be enough for you? If I moved coins out of this address 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa you would trust that I am satoshi? (not saying I him just using a hypothetical situation)
What if someone found satoshi and tortured him for his keys? if someone is driving satoshi`s car, does that make them satoshi?

perhaps we should see 2-3 of the starting addresses move coins, would the re ensure you? and a post from the satoshi bitcoin talk forum account?

Your right, someone could gain access to those keys but they aren't Satoshi.  A lot of speculation about Dave being Satoshi and since he is dead someone may be able to find those keys someday.
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April 30, 2019, 02:40:06 PM
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Make it simple, if satoshi proved ownership and upgrade bitcoin version 2 then will it use it? My short answer is yes. Even you don't want to use but you will not able to use current version if really happen an upgrade by satoshi. I will not believe satoshi will create any other new coin instead of upgrade bitcoin chain. Whoever called satoshi themselves and creating new coin they are all faketoshi in my opinions. So don't be confused.

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April 30, 2019, 02:43:56 PM
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Make it simple, if satoshi proved ownership and upgrade bitcoin version 2 then will it use it? My short answer is yes. Even you don't want to use but you will not able to use current version if really happen an upgrade by satoshi. I will not believe satoshi will create any other new coin instead of upgrade bitcoin chain. Whoever called satoshi themselves and creating new coin they are all faketoshi in my opinions. So don't be confused.

Yes I agree but, well sometimes you need to redo the infrastructure to recreate a better version of something. Take the Half life 1 engine to the half life 2 engine as a example. Sometimes it is better to knock a building down and rebuild it rather than just repair it to remake a new building. Sure you are reusing your blueprints as a stepping stone for the new build, but you are using new materials to rebuild it. 
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April 30, 2019, 03:21:28 PM
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so 90% of people would use it (current poll of this post) and 1 guy missclicked  Grin, Satoshi Where you at brother? don`t worry we will take on the IMF for you.
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April 30, 2019, 03:23:07 PM
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We only know of bitcoin the one created by Satoshi Nakamoto, and BitcoinSatoshi(BSV) is nothing but controversy. It's just another shit coin like BitcoinCash. I wonder how many people use BCH now after all the misleading information from the community that BCH was bitcoin, they failed and here comes this imposter called Wright with SV, dead on arrival.

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April 30, 2019, 03:25:04 PM
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We only know of bitcoin the one created by Satoshi Nakamoto, and BitcoinSatoshi(BSV) is nothing but controversy. It's just another shit coin like BitcoinCash. I wonder how many people use BCH now after all the misleading information from the community that BCH was bitcoin, they failed and here comes this imposter called Wright with SV, dead on arrival.

Yah the entire www.bitcoin.org over www.bitcoin.com also to be confused with www.bitcoincash.org That person should be sued for copyright by Satoshi , I really wonder how many people have fallen victim, I bet at least 100-1000 people are holding BCH not knowing it is not BTC to this day. Literally counterfeit!

www.bitcoin.org is the real one mentioned in the whitepaper  https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

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April 30, 2019, 05:16:12 PM
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Short answer: Yes, I will use it.

Satoshi or others, it does not depend on people, but the technology developed.
Most altcoins are shit-copies of BTC so it will not be better than it.

If Satoshi returns with better technology, it will add to BTC "as it will receive quick acceptance" but that does not mean the need to cancel or stop dealing with bitcoin, something like Ubuntu or mint.

I'd agree partly with your opinion but I don't think the analogy Ubuntu vs Mint is the right one. those Linux distros still use the core system of Linux, still use the same system/technologies. It will come up with different things if Linus Torvalds comes up with a brand new kernel.

But let's imagine Satoshis reveals, I'd agree Crytppcourrencies community will be shocked, and I believe they will follow Satoshi news vision.
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April 30, 2019, 05:39:50 PM
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Short answer: Yes, I will use it.

Satoshi or others, it does not depend on people, but the technology developed.
Most altcoins are shit-copies of BTC so it will not be better than it.

If Satoshi returns with better technology, it will add to BTC "as it will receive quick acceptance" but that does not mean the need to cancel or stop dealing with bitcoin, something like Ubuntu or mint.

I'd agree partly with your opinion but I don't think the analogy Ubuntu vs Mint is the right one. those Linux distros still use the core system of Linux, still use the same system/technologies. It will come up with different things if Linus Torvalds comes up with a brand new kernel.

But let's imagine Satoshis reveals, I'd agree Crytppcourrencies community will be shocked, and I believe they will follow Satoshi news vision.

Satoshi = Worlds only hope at the moment. Literally the only person or team that can stop us from certain destruction.
One podcast with Joe Rogan who wants to speak with him and it is evolution time for our species. He does not even need to show his face or her face, They just need to move a few coins and have a good message. They don`t even need to move the coins to cash out to be tracked. Just show the people they are there.

As time goes on, I feel like something unfortunate may have happened to that team. I am here willing to take the shots for them. Use my computer if you want satoshi and me as the decoy, I will kick that hornets nest in the face for you I will not run away either as they sting me I will laugh in their face, I know I can only do what I am going to do, I do not fear death.

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April 30, 2019, 07:15:30 PM
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Bitcoin 2.0 has to offer something as unique as bitcoin offered to this world, otherwise why will people move on it when there are ethereum, monero, grincoin and others?
His/their name isn't a magic word to turn people blindly. Also that would be a very silly action, created bitcoin and hide identity, them created bitcoin 2.0 and came with identity? What was the reason of revealing it in second moment? It's clear, to use your name and manipulate people to follow you. A little "shock" that will be gone after couple days, that's all.

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April 30, 2019, 07:28:32 PM
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Bitcoin 2.0 has to offer something as unique as bitcoin offered to this world, otherwise why will people move on it when there are ethereum, monero, grincoin and others?
His/their name isn't a magic word to turn people blindly. Also that would be a very silly action, created bitcoin and hide identity, them created bitcoin 2.0 and came with identity? What was the reason of revealing it in second moment? It's clear, to use your name and manipulate people to follow you. A little "shock" that will be gone after couple days, that's all.

Well yah that is why it is called bitcoin2.0 or SatoshiCoin or whatever they want to call it. I mean they don`t have to reveal their identity or residence they just need people to know they are Satoshi with undeniable proof.

A persons face will not do that anyways. 
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April 30, 2019, 10:49:15 PM
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Firstly, what you mentioned would never happen since Satoshi is not dumb to sabotage Bitcoin by introducing a new version in this aspect. Didn't you observe the current state of the Bitcoin related forks op?

Bitcoin cash is the only successful fork which itself is mired in a bucket load of controversies.

It would not be a fork, well I mean it could be I guess but I don`t see the point of that.
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April 30, 2019, 10:50:17 PM
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Why will he, when he knows there is no need for it.

People have already developed Bitcoin 2.0, 3.0 and etc in the name of Satoshi and gave them different names, you know the fate of all of them  Grin

For me there is one Bitcoin and I am happy with it.



yah in the name of Satoshi, there is a difference between a Michael Jackson impersonator and a Michael Jackson.  That is not bitcoin2.0 that is sh*tcoin1.0 bitcoin clone edition.
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May 01, 2019, 01:54:44 AM
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that is a very naive question because you still don't realize that those who started using bitcoin for reasons beyond fiat profit never did it because "Satoshi Nakamoto" made it! who is Satoshi anyways apart from an anonymous entity? every one of them did it because of what bitcoin is and what it offers them.

in other words there is no answer to your question because it depends on what this so called "bitcoin 2.0" is. if it really is good (better than bitcoin) then yeah everyone will use it. but if it is not then it  doesn't matter who creates it.
besides, anybody who uses the name Satoshi to create something called "bitcoin 2.0" is obviously not going to create anything half as good as bitcoin! they obviously would do it for monetary gains to scam people that is why they always use the name "bitcoin". take a look at how many projects have done it already!

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May 01, 2019, 02:38:52 AM
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If Satoshi came out with Bitcoin2.0 would you use it over Bitcoin current client, if he advised you to and let you exchange your current btc into it? let`s say he used his keys to 100% prove it is the real person or team.
signed on the forum and signed with 2-3 of the starting wallets and genesis address  1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa
Nope,for what reason should i convert my Hard earned bitcoin to somethin*new?let me return the question would you use it?

I am contented on what bitcoin is doing and i have no reason to just abandoned this to jump on another

And besides we are now the owner of bitcoin and it’s not Satoshi
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May 01, 2019, 04:14:29 AM
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I think bitcoin 2.0 will be the next series of bitcoin with better technology. Bitcoin itself will integrate with the new system, so it will make the whole system will work better than before. We need to follow the system and integrate with the new system so it will fix the problem from bitcoin in a better way.
But I wonder if he really created bitcoin 2.0 since he does not appear to the public and he still hiding in the dark. I think that will change the whole cryptocurrency way into a better than now and maybe it will help and solve what the problem itself.

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May 01, 2019, 05:04:11 AM
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If Satoshi came out with Bitcoin2.0 would you use it over Bitcoin current client, if he advised you to and let you exchange your current btc into it? let`s say he used his keys to 100% prove it is the real person or team.
signed on the forum and signed with 2-3 of the starting wallets and genesis address  1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa

Created by Satoshi or not, if it is a better version than the current bitcoin client, then I will support it. But if it does not have anything better to offer, just the name Satoshi attached to it, then no. The only way is to move forward. If there is something better than bitcoin then the community should support it.
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May 01, 2019, 05:37:16 AM
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If Satoshi came out with Bitcoin2.0 would you use it over Bitcoin current client, if he advised you to and let you exchange your current btc into it? let`s say he used his keys to 100% prove it is the real person or team.
signed on the forum and signed with 2-3 of the starting wallets and genesis address  1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa

First of all, I don't think the real Satoshi Nakamoto would ever do that. He (assuming that Satoshi is not a group of individuals) does not want to claim influence nor popularity that is he left just as Bitcoin is about to be known globally and I don't think he will be changing this character just for the sake of anything. Unlike many other cryptocurrency leaders of this generation, he is not very much motivated by greed but by that opportunity to contribute something that can make humanity much better.
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