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Question: Satoshi tells you to use new client bitcoin 2.0
use it ( you would get a new token at the same worth if not more probably ) - 11 (55%)
don`t use it ( bitcoin probably drops in price ) - 2 (10%)
I mean why would you not use it LOL look at eth and eth classic (use it again, use both) - 7 (35%)
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May 05, 2019, 03:10:05 PM
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I would say yes, and I will follow Satoshi because I think if he came out with Bitcoin 2.0, it means that the technology will better than bitcoin, and we should follow him because I am sure that he will gather all technology from bitcoin into new technology. But I don't know if that will happen or not because we cannot find where Satoshi lived and it still a big question for us.

we don`t need a face, we don`t need a address, we need a guy to move a few coins in his wallets, post on this forum and expand upon his invention, enlighten the masses, he has the opportunity to be on every news show and the biggest podcast JRE on the internet. All which he could do anon, through a messenger or voice changer. O well, I take matter into my own hands. We the people can`t expect him to be our baby sitter. His invention is using more power than IRELAND and creates more waste than most people would like to admit https://youtu.be/K8kua5B5K3I?t=285 . We need to do something to stop it and create a better alternative. Here is some wise words from the best documentary maker in the world. It is not just about the power usage, but the use of the power usage. If I had that much power for my farm, I could feed MILLIONS. Anyways there is a protest in my local park/climate change picnic I must attend to, give the public insight into this issue.

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May 05, 2019, 03:30:47 PM
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Bitcoin will be forever Bitcoin.

Since the inception of Bitcoin the devs. always upgrading nonstop for the betterment of it. I think also that Satoshi is there helping the people, in his own way, who actively maintain and continuous build of Bitcoin. it's just that he don't want to reveal himself.



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May 05, 2019, 03:32:36 PM
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I'm not that wise myself to arrive at such a decision without seeing the reaction of the people who, in my opinion, are the real deal in the field. This is, first of all, Andreas Antonopoulos. He's not hiding keeping valuable secrets, neither he's selling books with those secrets at a high price. On the contrary, he has permitted to download his books for free from github, and he answers questions on his YouTube channel and on reddit regularly. I would act in accordance with his advice.

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May 05, 2019, 03:40:41 PM
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Something happening like that is around %0.000000000000000000000000000000001. So i must say it is very unlikely.

Let's say it happened, if it will become a pow coin with free distribution, the difficulty would be very high and price would be very high also. I don't expect he is doing an ico Cheesy
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May 05, 2019, 08:45:53 PM
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I will use it but it should migrate our old Bitcoin 1.0 to Bitcoin 2.0.
If migrating would not work then i might think it thoroughly while balancing the whole thing if there is an advantage to either both sides.
Although it won't happen anymore since Satoshi was nowhere to be found.
And it needs to be debated first until someone decides what's the best option.

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May 05, 2019, 11:40:28 PM
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They would not do it because there is no things that need to change in bitcoin only the updates and upgrades of what they need to improve in their system,but okay let we say that it happened,there‘s any act that we could do for it just follow the system and what have changed because we are only the user.

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May 06, 2019, 08:48:45 AM
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Of course, I will definitely use it. For sure it will have the greatest features and almost all of the investors in the crypto world will support that especially big whales cause they know that it will be again unstoppable. If that is the case I hope I am updated if he really reveals himself.
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Something happening like that is around %0.000000000000000000000000000000001. So i must say it is very unlikely.

Let's say it happened, if it will become a pow coin with free distribution, the difficulty would be very high and price would be very high also. I don't expect he is doing an ico Cheesy

Although I agree that the situation described in the OP is very unlikely to happen, I can't agree with the selected text. The difficulty of a POW coin depends on the amount of miners connected to the network. We can't say in advance how high or low it can be. Same goes for the price (of any coin, not only POW based). The price depends on demand and supply, and I personally doubt that the demand for that coin can be very high, especially in the very beginning.

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If Satoshi would do something like this, how could you trust his words in the future? He would destroy his own creation, Bitcoin. So a decentralized currency would be destroyed by only one person and Satoshis idea is that such a thing is not possible. And why should I use Bitcoin 2.0 if Bitcoin 3.0 maybe comes on the market at any time and Bitcoin and Bitcoin 2.0 become worthless? If Satoshi should come back (which will probably never happen), he should rather develop his creation further and not replace Bitcoin with a new coin. That would destroy the trust in crypto.  Wink
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If Satoshi would do something like this, how could you trust his words in the future? He would destroy his own creation, Bitcoin. So a decentralized currency would be destroyed by only one person and Satoshis idea is that such a thing is not possible. And why should I use Bitcoin 2.0 if Bitcoin 3.0 maybe comes on the market at any time and Bitcoin and Bitcoin 2.0 become worthless? If Satoshi should come back (which will probably never happen), he should rather develop his creation further and not replace Bitcoin with a new coin. That would destroy the trust in crypto.  Wink

Well in bitcoin 2.0 there will be decentralized voting I would imagine, so the users on the network would vote if we should move to bitcoin 3.0.
 
''he should rather develop his creation further and not replace Bitcoin with a new coin"..... it is bitcoin still, just like windows 95 and windows ME is still windows.
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If Satoshi would do something like this, how could you trust his words in the future? He would destroy his own creation, Bitcoin. So a decentralized currency would be destroyed by only one person and Satoshis idea is that such a thing is not possible. And why should I use Bitcoin 2.0 if Bitcoin 3.0 maybe comes on the market at any time and Bitcoin and Bitcoin 2.0 become worthless? If Satoshi should come back (which will probably never happen), he should rather develop his creation further and not replace Bitcoin with a new coin. That would destroy the trust in crypto.  Wink

Well in bitcoin 2.0 there will be decentralized voting I would imagine, so the users on the network would vote if we should move to bitcoin 3.0.
 
''he should rather develop his creation further and not replace Bitcoin with a new coin"..... it is bitcoin still, just like windows 95 and windows ME is still windows.

Hmmm, ok, if he would really only develop Bitcoin further and not destroy his original creation, it would certainly be interesting. But if he started a completely new blockchain, the old Bitcoin blockchain would be dead and worthless overnight. Windows 95 has no value today either and is useless. With an operating system that's ok, but with a currency like Bitcoin it would be a disaster. Developing further or starting a new blockchain are two different things for me. I am for further development of the Bitcoin blockchain, but never for a start of a new blockchain, even if it would still be called Bitcoin.  Wink
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May 07, 2019, 04:13:46 PM
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the poll is closed for some reason , but I will reply here:
I will not use Bitcoin 2.0 in any shape or form
there is only one bitcoin and whatever is created won't be bitcoin buy something else whatever you call it
as for Satoshi's vision , isn't Bitcoin SV standing for Satoshi's Vision?  Cheesy so you can tell that sometimes even the greatest of visions are crappy Grin

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May 07, 2019, 07:55:44 PM
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the poll is closed for some reason , but I will reply here:
I will not use Bitcoin 2.0 in any shape or form
there is only one bitcoin and whatever is created won't be bitcoin buy something else whatever you call it
as for Satoshi's vision , isn't Bitcoin SV standing for Satoshi's Vision?  Cheesy so you can tell that sometimes even the greatest of visions are crappy Grin

You trade your current bitcoin into it, let`s say you have 1 bitcoin and you send it to bitcoin2.0 (which is still bitcoin), it still has the same value as a 1 bitcoin which is 1 bitcoin,  you are not buying anything.

Bitcoin SV is not being done by satoshi, just because it is called that, just like how the bank of america is not owned by all the american people.
They used a quote from him, It is not him quoting bitcoin satoshi`s vision in the current, if that makes sense to you. https://bitcoinsv.io/

This is not Bitcoin 2.0

This is just a fork, just like

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and you guys want to talk about volatility, stop trading your bitcoin into fiat, stop trading your bitcoins into alt coins. You know what makes volatility USING DIFFERENT MONEY SUPPLYS, for the most part, read the sentence on the original white paper. Like if we are going to use a money supply, we need to use one, like where is the Universal coin at. We are the dumbest traders in history. I think all animals are smarter because not a single other species even uses currency, probably for a reason, But if, we are going to use one, lets all use the same one, so it is not so stupid when it comes to trading.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_SVexaSMwk Even the system the caveman had was better.

At the end of it, if people are doing fractional reserve banking they will end up with no nuts to reproduce or if they were giving out monopoly money in trade for real goods and services.
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May 07, 2019, 08:18:18 PM
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the poll is closed for some reason

The poll timer has ended. The people have spoken, they were all given a equal amount of time to react if they wanted to, just like how it would work in decentralized voting.
The verdict is two people miss clicked out of 20. (feel free to repeal and open a counter poll)

90% of people said YES
10% of people said No

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What about a offspring chain? like after you have two kids (so we can keep our populations in order) you have to give up 1/2 your UBI to your kids chain and so does the mother, and you have 4 kids, you both lose your BIP.
If 2 people do not have more than 2 kids, population is maintained.

Instead of killing them if they have more than 1 and it is not a boy.  Roll Eyes
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This could actually lead to self sustaining society's.
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I want to use a metaphor for this because I don`t think 2 people understood in the polls.
Keep in mind Bitcoin 2.0 is not Bitcoin2 I have no clue what that is

Bitcoin = Playstation 1
Bitcoin 2.0 = Playstation 2

Bitcoins = the games

You can use ps1 games in a ps2. Why would you not accept a ps2 for free? LOL
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June 11, 2019, 01:51:22 AM
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If satoshi comes with bitcoin 2.0 that means bitcoin 1.0 fail. And that's enough reason to move to the new version. The problem here is when someone says he is satoshi and launch his version without prove he is satoshi, just like CW did it. That way i just will ignore that version and stay with the old one.

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June 11, 2019, 02:25:50 AM
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Of course, as we know bitcoin does lack of many features and it has a lot of problems which are seen after Satoshi left us like it takes time for the transaction confirmation and it needs higher txd fees. if Satoshi makes a bitcoin 2.0 then, of course, he is going to cover all those issues and what if he can add even more benefits to the coin. that would be life changing but that's not gonna happen.
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June 11, 2019, 02:31:29 AM
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If he would really make one, why not give it a try?? And if Satoshi would make version 2.0, it means that it's more developed than the first one since it's "Bitcoin2.0". That would make sense right? He wouldn't make one if it ain't a better version.

But I highly doubt he'll make one.

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