eBay sellers

[MoparMiningLLC]

I am kind of curious as I see this more and more often - where the sellers are listing items with "30 day returns" and list prices but when you get to the description, it states they will only take direct payment - ie not thru eBay/PayPal - or will take crypto only.

how and why does eBay allow this? For example, taking direct payments and/or crypto cuts eBay out of their commission, right? Yet, these sellers have ratings in the 10's of thousands.

here is one such example.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitmain-Antminer-S15-28TH-s-Bitcoin-BTC-ASIC-MINER-w-PSU-Read-Description/293070290137?hash=item443c59bcd9:g:X2AAAOSwIz5cyFkN

what do they do once you hit buy now and pay in crypto? cancel the sale? because eBay is expecting to receive payment - correct? and if you do pay via eBay vs their crypto method in the item description - what do they do? refund the payment? relist the item?

I would be tempted to buy based on their eBay rating and that if I go thru eBay and they do not deliver - I have recourse for a refund. This seller makes it sound like he will be ripped off if they go thru eBay - seller's are also protected, they can prove they shipped with a tracking.  And again by going outside of eBay, there is no recourse or safety for the buyer.

I can find listings like this for all types of items - heck one guy asked me to pay him more on PayPal on the side after I won an auction because he found that the item was selling for more on another ad on eBay. When I refused, he cancelled the sale and refunded me what I had already paid...

I do not see how eBay allows this.  Am I missing something?

[kano]

ebay doesn't allow it.
You can report them and ebay will act on it.

[MoparMiningLLC]

ebay doesn't allow it.
You can report them and ebay will act on it.

i get that, but how does the listing even get made? do they not review it?

crazy...

[minefarmbuy]

I'm let down by this thread in soo many ways.

[MoparMiningLLC]

I'm let down by this thread in soo many ways.

lol how so?

[vit05]

They use ebay just as advertising. Their idea is for you to contact and shop directly. Eventually their account on ebay may be blocked. But then they buy another account and continue the business.

[MoparMiningLLC]

the guy I linked above is not being removed from eBay he has a rating in the 16k range - that means they have operated for years.

[BitBustah]

They are heavily breaking the rules of ebay.  They are just using ebay as an advertising platform.  Never trust anyone that is only willing to accept a payment method that can't be refunded.

The seller is actually really stupid, he has other expensive items on his store that say absolutely nothing about crypto.  Makes no sense and he is likely a scammer.

[MoparMiningLLC]

They are heavily breaking the rules of ebay.  They are just using ebay as an advertising platform.  Never trust anyone that is only willing to accept a payment method that can't be refunded.

The seller is actually really stupid, he has other expensive items on his store that say absolutely nothing about crypto.  Makes no sense and he is likely a scammer.

my opinion as well. must have did legitimate sales to get up to that 16k rating but is now running ads for some items as crypto only

[minefarmbuy]

Was thinking it might be more than some scam reseller was all.

[MoparMiningLLC]

Was thinking it might be more than some scam reseller was all.

well, after my fiasco with one buyer that cost me over 10k - I will never buy from someone I have not had prior transactions with without using a form of payment that is secure enough to get a refund if they decide to rip me off. Whether it is using a credit card, PayPal or an escrow service.

I am not wanting to ever take that risk again.

[minefarmbuy]

Understandable this reseller is a huge red flag though. Stay away.

Let me know what you're after if you want to use our service at all.  

We can act a escrow if you find a 3rd party seller, push everything through our website even.

[MoparMiningLLC]

Understandable this reseller is a huge red flag though. Stay away.

Let me know what you're after if you want to use our service at all.  

We can act a escrow if you find a 3rd party seller, push everything through our website even.

Thanks. Really wanting to see Bitmain release more T15's but somehow I doubt they will - those are a quick ROI for me and are below the limit for tariff tax.

[minefarmbuy]

s15 and t15 are done, you'll have to get from a reseller.

[MoparMiningLLC]

s15 and t15 are done, you'll have to get from a reseller.

that is my guess as well, and that is why I have been looking around at resellers - just dont trust nary a one ya know?  But never know - Bitmain did resurrect the S9's for a bit last month and were selling them at same time as the T15/S15's and T11 I think was up at the same time as well.

so far the only reseller I see selling the T15 for a non-ridiculous amount is Hashdeploy.net and I have not found any thing to verify their legitimacy

[minefarmbuy]

Watch and wait is a good idea. Only 26T from inno is under de minimis atm.

[MoparMiningLLC]

Watch and wait is a good idea. Only 26T from inno is under de minimis atm.

only thing I dont like about the Innosilicon miners is their efficiency about 3 TH more than the T15 but its power consumption is 1.5 times that of the T15.

My S9's are running at about 13.5 TH and only using about 1150 watts so 2 of them would be about the same as the Innosilicon 26 TH miners - making it a moot point of me selling S9's to replace with them.

[minefarmbuy]

LPM is usually all I look at anymore personally. 21th at 1.4kw isnt the greatest upgrade but still reasonable. Was just mentioning the unit because of pricing.

[MoparMiningLLC]

LPM is usually all I look at anymore personally. 21th at 1.4kw isnt the greatest upgrade but still reasonable. Was just mentioning the unit because of pricing.

totally understand that! and it is appreciated.

[leowonderful]

This is a scam listing. I saw many listings like the one you linked for the Obelisk SC1s a few months ago stating only cryptocurrency is accepted in the description and it seems there's still people trying to scam others through this sort of listing. As for the sellers making listings like this having thousands of ratings, it's likely an account that has been sold off to a scammer. Pretty sad that eBay accounts are being sold now, but as long as you use your common sense and don't buy through listings like this you'll be fine.