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November 22, 2020, 10:23:10 AM
Last edit: November 25, 2020, 01:33:57 PM by Rikafip
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While browsing through Altcoin section, one ANN thread caught my attention due catchy name, [ANN][EBL] EVBYLiM - Revolutionizing Self-Transformation and Wealth Creation! . Since I am allergic to self-help mumbojumbo, I've decided to check it a bit. Sentences like "EVBYLiM gives everyone a chance to generate passive income through self-development by merging self growth with a powerful affiliate program and blockchain." and "With its unique concept, every person, no matter his or her current financial situation is able to get access to professional self-development material that can elevate his/her quality of life to new heights" just made me think that I am onto something here.

Flag Type 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2484

Flag Type 1 (another EVBYLiM account) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2487

ANN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5292115.0
Archive https://archive.is/lj29X#selection-1831.0-1831.148

Website https://evbylim.io
Archive https://web.archive.org/web/20201122093727/https://evbylim.io/

Whitepaper https://web.archive.org/web/20201122093316/https://evbylim.io/white-paper



First thing thing that I check is the team, and the people behind it (2 out of 3 that I could find some background info) have an interesting history, to say the least.





First one I checked is their founder and  CEO, Armin Pajula. Based on his Facebook posts, Mr Pajula is self-help guru and member of Crowd1 (I will explain that later).
https://www.facebook.com/2freedom.eu/photos





EVBYLiM Chief Executive Officer Martin Karus also has experience in Crowd1, and shilling scammy ponzi shitcoins like ETHplus. At the time of shilling few months ago ETHPlus was at 26 USD, and now its at 0.04 USD.
https://www.facebook.com/TopLeaderMartinKarus/





As part of EVBLYM, your goal is to sell as many subscription packages as you can, and spreading your network by bringing new people in. Sounds like a classic MLM scheme to me, hiding behind selling "educational packages" and self-help buzzwords about transforming your life, acquiring wealth etc.




Regarding Crowd1, its  just another pyramid. This scheme is already banned in several countries, and those spreading it were even arrested in some cases. Few articles about Crowd1
Namibia just banned the Crowd1 get-rich-quick scheme as a pyramid. SA is its biggest market.
SCAM ALERT! Watch out for Crowd1
17 linked to Burundi 'get-rich-quick' schemes arrested



I would like to hear thoughts and opinions on this before I proceed with tagging and flagging, in case I'm missing/misunderstanding something here. Is this enough proof to expect the same thing from EVBLYM as it was with Crowd1?

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Passive income + affiliate =101% MLM scam.

Nice background check OP. This clown team are now using blockchain as new environment for there MLM scam businesse. The CEO is looks familiar to me, I have previous experience on joining MLM before using PayPal and I believe I saw him already.


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It is interesting to see that their official telegram group @evbylim_com have some plans with Bitcointalk forum and referral links.

I don't know what makes ex martial artist and planet saver to venture into creating something like this, but I doubt he will create ultimate financial freedom he seeks like this.



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November 22, 2020, 01:36:13 PM
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I've finish reading whitepaper and they are not really hiding that this is MLM. I have to confess that I don't understand half things they wrote there, but, paying subscription to watch videos/whatever while everyone can find any kind of educational video on internet for free, and they have 18 affiliate levels for that? Right... It certainly looks like pyramid crap to me.
Passive income + affiliate =101% MLM scam.
It usually is, but don't confuse MLM with pyramid. There are legal MLM companies operating for years, for example, Amway, they also have that "passive income + affiliate part" - but the thing is, they have real product. Pyramid doesn't.

Dafak is this:


"If you invest in our project, you can make $600,000 or $6,000,000 or $0 or $50 or $300, you could earn money but you could also lose money."

It's like 10 year old kid wrote this part.
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November 22, 2020, 02:36:57 PM
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This clown team are now using blockchain as new environment for there MLM scam businesse. The CEO is looks familiar to me, I have previous experience on joining MLM before using PayPal and I believe I saw him already.
They do like to use blockchain mainly because of two things; first they think that by including blockchain and tokens that will serve as some kind of proof that they are legit and not a scam, I often heard that being used an argument, stuff like "we are on Ethereum blockchain therefore we can't be ponzi". 2nd reason is to use the hype surrounding everything that has to do with crypto. About possibility that CEO was part of some other scam, I wouldn't be surprised considering the stuff he supported in the past.



It is interesting to see that their official telegram group @evbylim_com have some plans with Bitcointalk forum and referral links.
Good find. Since that announcement was from November 18th and ANN has been made today, I guess that @coinstatic is the person they found for that task. I don't see referral links though. At least not yet.


I don't know what makes ex martial artist and planet saver to venture into creating something like this, but I doubt he will create ultimate financial freedom he seeks like this.
That is a good question. Things that worry me here is his inclination to scams. Beside Crowd1 in which he was very active, he was part of few other scams like Cloud Token, which he heavily promoted on his FB page.



I've finish reading whitepaper and they are not really hiding that this is MLM. I have to confess that I don't understand half things they wrote there, but, paying subscription to watch videos/whatever while everyone can find any kind of educational video on internet for free, and they have 18 affiliate levels for that? Right... It certainly looks like pyramid crap to me.
Their whitepaper is bloated indeed, 48 pages of bs. That's the thing with these schemes, they like to complicate it as much as possible so as a member you are not really sure what's going on. All you know is that you have to bring as many people as possible and build your network of affiliates that will make money for you.

Regarding these educational videos, their inspiration is Crowd1 scam, in which they have extensive experience. Crowd1 has educuational packages which you buy and then try to sell to others. EVBLYM just added self-help bs in order to make it more attractive to people.





When I see this kind of stuff from their "Chief Executive Officer" I don't see how can EVBLYM end in any other way other than people getting sucked into this loosing the money, as it happened with Crowd1.


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Team member advertising scams, what could possible go wrong  Roll Eyes

I've sent PM to creator of that topic, but actually I will send him negative feedback as this is referral link:

For more information and detailed instructions on how to participate visit the following link:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfpq-xXbN4syEhTY6hIg0VzPlr07bWfMmfuJ2Ymw5ixh-Xgvw/viewform



...and report account to moderators, topic is copy/pasted whitepaper referral spam.

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Last edit: November 22, 2020, 05:58:18 PM by Rikafip
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Team member advertising scams, what could possible go wrong  Roll Eyes
Hah yeah. It's standard M.O really that we've seen before, those involved in scams as participants sooner or later wanting to create one of their own, especially those that are more  successful at sucking people in.


I've sent PM to creator of that topic, but actually I will send him negative feedback as this is referral link:
Good catch! I've missed  that completely and I looked for referral after that Telegram message that @dkbit98 found. He decided to take up on their offer and make a little bit extra. As an old member he should have known better. Adding flag, please support

Flag Type 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2484

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Oh, new account:
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...they shilled for some "potentially risk" exchange in the past <<< NSFW! (Archived: https://archive.is/s3S6N)

@Rikafip can you create flag for them and update topic with new archived topic (https://archive.is/lj29X#selection-1831.0-1831.148) as well?
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November 23, 2020, 09:54:47 PM
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@Ammikas also shilled AdzCoin, and what a coincidence that @coinstatic was very active there too. Guess he decided to activate his alt to spread the buzz.


@Rikafip can you create flag for them and update topic with new archived topic (https://archive.is/lj29X#selection-1831.0-1831.148) as well?
Flag raised and first post updated.

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November 26, 2020, 12:22:07 PM
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Reported to CryptoScamAlert
https://cryptoscamalert.com/crypto_scam_report/892
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November 26, 2020, 12:58:56 PM
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If you want to laugh then visit their website and read what they say.
With EVBYLiM (𝗘𝗩olve 𝗕e𝗬ond 𝗟𝗶𝗠its) you will evolve, complete self-transformation and improve in every way even spiritually, so you don't need to visit any gurus or ashrams, just buy this token and achieve nirvana and samadhi  Cheesy

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EVBYLiM is a unique platform that combines self-transformation with wealth creation.
Our vision is to make the world a better place by giving everyone a chance to improve their lives financially, mentally, and spiritually.
https://evbylim.io/

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November 27, 2020, 10:49:51 AM
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If you want to laugh then visit their website and read what they say.
With EVBYLiM (𝗘𝗩olve 𝗕e𝗬ond 𝗟𝗶𝗠its) you will evolve, complete self-transformation and improve in every way even spiritually, so you don't need to visit any gurus or ashrams, just buy this token and achieve nirvana and samadhi  Cheesy

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EVBYLiM is a unique platform that combines self-transformation with wealth creation.
Our vision is to make the world a better place by giving everyone a chance to improve their lives financially, mentally, and spiritually.
https://evbylim.io/
Hah yeah, all that self help bullshit is exactly the reason why I decided to check them out and once you see in what kind of scams they were involved before, there is no doubt that only "growth"  that will happen is  growth of organizers banking account.

Out of all their bullshit, probably  my favorite is the name of their CEO Armin Pajula Facebook account Arm In Wealth. When you think about it, it is really an appropriate name, as his arm is reaching for other people's wealth Cheesy


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November 27, 2020, 12:36:34 PM
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snip..

Out of all their bullshit, probably  my favorite is the name of their CEO Armin Pajula Facebook account Arm In Wealth. When you think about it, it is really an appropriate name, as his arm is reaching for other people's wealth Cheesy


The thing that Ponzi scammers say most often is;

  • "Let's feel rich without limits by joining us"
  • "Join us and you will be rich in no time"
  • "feel the profit many times over by just sitting back at home, join us"
  • etc..
  • and now "arm in wealth"!! go to hell with your bullshit Cheesy

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