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May 01, 2019, 11:11:57 PM
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"Bitcoin is a bubble". O really?! What is this then?!


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May 02, 2019, 12:32:36 AM
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Well, he said so because he might be afraid their investment value will be taken over by Bitcoin industry. Also, Bitcoin is pretty new thing that aims to change everything and that caused shock on people who die hard for fiat and other centralized products. He could say it's a bubble for once again if he want to join Bitcoin community anyway.

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May 02, 2019, 03:17:25 AM
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It is an well known fact that real estate is the biggest bubble in the history of mankind. With no actual valuation process available for land, it can bring a big disaster anytime in the economy! US has aready suffered it in 2008 and cities like Mumbai, Hong Kong, Tokyo are on the verge of it!

But still some economists prefer to call bitcoin a bubble because it makes them happy and they think this way they can keep their prominence over the economy!

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May 02, 2019, 04:26:13 AM
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Then I guess people need to change their option from the stock into cryptocurrency because cryptocurrency is growing start from this year. We believe that in the future, cryptocurrency can grow more than today and it will attract people to comes to the cryptocurrency world.
I think right now, many people who still choose the stock or else might get worried because their asset is going to down and they need to save their money before it's too late.
I believe that some of them have already changed their asset into cryptocurrency but they still not leave the previous asset.

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May 02, 2019, 04:31:21 AM
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It's pretty obvious that economics, huge investors and other personalities would brand Bitcoin as a bubble because they haven't seen this kind of meteoritic rise in human history. But if you are going to compare it to previous bubble, then definitely it's not the biggest. As shown in the graph, stocks is will continue to bubble. But then again, they wouldn't attack it negatively, because that's there bread and butter, specially Warren B.

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May 02, 2019, 07:12:23 AM
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It is no longer a secret that the market is in "everything bubble." However, what I want to know is about Bitcoin price. What will happen to Bitcoin if the market crashes? I am afraid that we do not have the correct hedging instruments to date.

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May 02, 2019, 07:19:27 AM
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Whales will always call bitcoin a bubble cause they can never understand it operations like the centralized currencies and business where they make which ever choice the wish in other to make gains. I have said it before if bitcoin is a bubble it should have busted long ago.
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May 02, 2019, 08:02:21 AM
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Those traditional investors always stating that bitcoin is a bubble while their lovely assets also come into a similar phase are those people who can't take a mirror and look at themselves. I mean, the recent stock market prices are indeed overvalued and is long due for a correction now. Also the same reason why a lot of economists are calling for a collapse by 2020 which, at plain sight of this chart alone, is very likely to happen.

Wait until the stock market burst then let's come back at bitcoin and tell that it's a bubble still.
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May 02, 2019, 09:53:36 AM
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Crypto currency has indeed been the choice of several people who have made investments in crypto currencies, they believe that crypto currencies will have a good and profitable future for them.
although in fact everyone knows that deciding to switch investments in crypto currencies is a very difficult and very risky choice.
because crypto currencies are very volatile and very unpredictable, unlike their previous investments.
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May 02, 2019, 10:01:34 AM
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I think we've reached the peak of the stock market bubble though.

Jerome Powell (chairman of the Fed) caused the markets to tank yesterday. They'd deluded themselves that he was going to cut interest rates - he held them and said that he thought there was still potential for inflation to build (which means there could be a rate RISE later this year). And he's still doing Quantitative Tightening.

As long as unemployment in the US is low, he won't cut rates, and the markets are struggling with the rises he put through last year. Lots of corporations have debt they need to roll over this year - they borrowed at 0.25% and will probably have to pay 2.5% when they roll it over. That's Ouch territory. Come the autumn we shall see many shares tanking.

 
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May 02, 2019, 10:23:28 AM
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as long as the price has not moved much the price of a coin, I assume a whales has not entered yet, but when prices move too deep down usually whales starts slowly and continues to enter then when their high prices rush to sell to get lost and all of us can lose and there was a bubble as long as the mentality is always strong in facing this, surely we can also find our own opportunities and not be affected by external factors
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May 02, 2019, 10:28:23 AM
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Bitcoin is not bubble and I know bitcoin have lower price right now, but sure you have more investing because bitcoin will be back above $20k at the future and always have potential to be on higher price.
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Black swan -30% ... -50 % in single day. That's the only way US stock market can go down. The government is too involved into stock market condition. It will do anything to stop price drop (just like in 24-26.12.2018). This will create opportunity for BIG SHORT just like Soros did with GPB during Black Wednesday.

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May 02, 2019, 12:03:18 PM
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Those traditional investors always stating that bitcoin is a bubble while their lovely assets also come into a similar phase are those people who can't take a mirror and look at themselves. I mean, the recent stock market prices are indeed overvalued and is long due for a correction now. Also the same reason why a lot of economists are calling for a collapse by 2020 which, at plain sight of this chart alone, is very likely to happen.

Wait until the stock market burst then let's come back at bitcoin and tell that it's a bubble still.
I agree. They basically hate what cryptocurrencies stand for and seek to demean them in whatever way possible. Bubbles have existed in the stock market too, but they never talk about that and only focus on crypto.

I still remember the housing market collapse like it was yesterday. Time will reveal the truth to such fools.

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May 02, 2019, 04:24:33 PM
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"Bitcoin is a bubble". O really?! What is this then?!


GDP is always growing and the economy of leading countries is always developing. In that case we can say that those countries are wealthy as never before, which gave more value to those stocks.
Warren Buffet's investing style is about picking undervalued stocks and selling them for the full price. So I would rather believe that stock market is growing without making a bubble.
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May 02, 2019, 04:58:21 PM
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It is no longer a secret that the market is in "everything bubble." However, what I want to know is about Bitcoin price. What will happen to Bitcoin if the market crashes? I am afraid that we do not have the correct hedging instruments to date.

Not even the stablecoins, one in particular is that tether isn't the right option as they say. I can only assume its a scam because there were people publishing about it.

"Bitcoin is a bubble". O really?! What is this then?!


GDP is always growing and the economy of leading countries is always developing. In that case we can say that those countries are wealthy as never before, which gave more value to those stocks.
Warren Buffet's investing style is about picking undervalued stocks and selling them for the full price. So I would rather believe that stock market is growing without making a bubble.

His style are just picking the ones that are cheaper at the time and hope the company makes it. That is basically holding for years.

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May 02, 2019, 05:21:11 PM
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It is no longer a secret that the market is in "everything bubble." However, what I want to know is about Bitcoin price. What will happen to Bitcoin if the market crashes? I am afraid that we do not have the correct hedging instruments to date.

Bitcoin will likely crash just as hard, people exit the riskiest and most volatile market first.
The interesting part is not really the crash itself but how the recovery will be handled, printing fiat will not be a solution anymore at some point and that's where the window of opportunity will be for cryptocurrencies.
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May 02, 2019, 05:55:24 PM
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I don't think bitcoin will crash and bitcoin in my opinion is not a bubble, why? Because bitcoin is not like infinite money and also not like a ponzi where more and more people invest thinking they will get a lot of money back and after time pass a lot of people lose their money.
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May 02, 2019, 06:15:48 PM
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It is an well known fact that real estate is the biggest bubble in the history of mankind. With no actual valuation process available for land, it can bring a big disaster anytime in the economy! US has aready suffered it in 2008 and cities like Mumbai, Hong Kong, Tokyo are on the verge of it!

But still some economists prefer to call bitcoin a bubble because it makes them happy and they think this way they can keep their prominence over the economy!
It's sad even to talk about it, but the thing is that the big guys are not those who are going to suffer in case everything collapses again. I've seen some information about the stock market moving in a dangerous direction and people not imposing safety measures once again. But recall what happened the last time. Big banks and regulators screwed up, but they pretty much stayed in power nevertheless. It was people losing their savings, pensions, and jobs as well as paying taxes to bring the guilty ones back to the throne again. They stay in power and want to make sure nothing changes in that regard. Bitcoin is a threat because it cannot be manipulated and controlled like that. So instead of adapting, they try to fight what's bound to win.

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May 02, 2019, 06:49:12 PM
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His style are just picking the ones that are cheaper at the time and hope the company makes it. That is basically holding for years.
No, he is not trading altcoins and ICO tokens lol.
You probably won't believe me but traditional investing works a bit more complicated way rather than just buying some shit and praying for it to rise in price. There are a lot of multiplicators and other indicators with different difficulty that would help you to see if a company is undervalued or not.
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