Bitcoin Forum
November 01, 2024, 09:05:20 AM *
News: Bitcoin Pumpkin Carving Contest
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they strongly believe that the creator of this topic is a scammer. (Login to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.
Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: scam exchange  (Read 303 times)
mr.bitcoinerf12 (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 16
Merit: 0


View Profile
May 02, 2019, 09:14:31 AM
 #1

why there is so many scam exchanges across all cryptocurrency with fake volume
bob123
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1624
Merit: 2481



View Profile WWW
May 02, 2019, 09:41:55 AM
 #2

That's simple. Money.

Scammers are everywhere where money can be made.

That's the reason it is important to only use well-known exchanges and not some new ones or ones with extremely low volume.
The lower the volume is, the easier it is to manipulate the price.

Depending on your country of residence, you might not have access to all exchanges. But choose the most suitable for you (trading the coins you need, large enough, reputable).

akamit
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1498
Merit: 596


View Profile
May 02, 2019, 09:52:17 AM
 #3

why there is so many scam exchanges across all cryptocurrency with fake volume
Fake volume is one of the aspects of marketing strategy and it is done mostly from the non-famous exchanges to pull traders. But it's definitely a shit trick imo.

The most surprising thing for me was when I knew that 95% of the exchanges and its volumes are fake and only 10 exchanges are real.
logfiles
Copper Member
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2156
Merit: 1811


Top Crypto Casino


View Profile WWW
May 02, 2019, 09:58:53 AM
 #4

Fake volume = Higher coinmarketcap 24 hour volume rankings = More traders registering/More Coins listing/More Money from listing and trading fees.

███████████████████████
████▐██▄█████████████████
████▐██████▄▄▄███████████
████▐████▄█████▄▄████████
████▐█████▀▀▀▀▀███▄██████
████▐███▀████████████████
████▐█████████▄█████▌████
████▐██▌█████▀██████▌████
████▐██████████▀████▌████
█████▀███▄█████▄███▀█████
███████▀█████████▀███████
██████████▀███▀██████████

███████████████████████
.
BC.GAME
▄▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄▄
▄▀▀░▄██▀░▀██▄░▀▀▄
▄▀░▐▀▄░▀░░▀░░▀░▄▀▌░▀▄
▄▀▄█▐░▀▄▀▀▀▀▀▄▀░▌█▄▀▄
▄▀░▀░░█░▄███████▄░█░░▀░▀▄
█░█░▀░█████████████░▀░█░█
█░██░▀█▀▀█▄▄█▀▀█▀░██░█
█░█▀██░█▀▀██▀▀█░██▀█░█
▀▄▀██░░░▀▀▄▌▐▄▀▀░░░██▀▄▀
▀▄▀██░░▄░▀▄█▄▀░▄░░██▀▄▀
▀▄░▀█░▄▄▄░▀░▄▄▄░█▀░▄▀
▀▄▄▀▀███▄███▀▀▄▄▀
██████▄▄▄▄▄▄▄██████
.
..CASINO....SPORTS....POKER..


▄▄████▄▄
▄███▀▀███▄
██████████
▀███▄░▄██▀
▄▄████▄▄░▀█▀▄██▀▄▄████▄▄
▄███▀▀▀████▄▄██▀▄███▀▀███▄
███████▄▄▀▀████▄▄▀▀███████
▀███▄▄███▀░░░▀▀████▄▄▄███▀
▀▀████▀▀████████▀▀████▀▀
mr.bitcoinerf12 (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 16
Merit: 0


View Profile
May 02, 2019, 10:08:00 AM
 #5

so if one of exchanges has 100k usd trading volume and 5% is real volume how we can buy form this exchange then
khaled0111
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2702
Merit: 3035


Top Crypto Casino


View Profile WWW
May 02, 2019, 12:21:55 PM
 #6

so if one of exchanges has 100k usd trading volume and 5% is real volume how we can buy form this exchange then

You will have to compete with their bots, which are used to create a fake trade volume, to get your order filled.

Exchanges are using bots to fake the trade volume in order to rank up on CMC and thus attract more traders.

According to the last report of the Blockchain Transparency Institute:
Quote
We found 17 of the CMC Top 25 exchanges to be over 99%+ fake with many greater than 99.5% fake volumes, including 35 of the top 50 adjusted volume rankings.
https://www.bti.live/reports-april2019/

Woodie
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1988
Merit: 898


The #1 Solana Casino


View Profile WWW
May 02, 2019, 01:02:24 PM
 #7

why there is so many scam exchanges across all cryptocurrency with fake volume
AFAIK choosing an exchange is mostly based on volume, so if this fake volume is generated it means new coin owners can also be targeted to list on such sites as its a big factor when wanting to be listed, which maked this an easy way for scammers to cash in.

Another reason could be data harvesting or phishing attempts as most of us traders might want to be with an exchange with high volumes.


 
█▄
R


▀▀██████▄▄
████████████████
▀█████▀▀▀█████
████████▌███▐████
▄█████▄▄▄█████
████████████████
▄▄██████▀▀
LLBIT▀█ 
  TH#1 SOLANA CASINO  
████████████▄
▀▀██████▀▀███
██▄▄▀▀▄▄████
████████████
██████████
███▀████████
▄▄█████████
████████████
████████████
████████████
████████████
█████████████
████████████▀
████████████▄
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██████
████████████
███████████
██▄█████████
████▄███████
████████████
█░▀▀████████
▀▀██████████
█████▄█████
████▀▄▀████
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄██████
████████████▀
........5,000+........
GAMES
 
......INSTANT......
WITHDRAWALS
..........HUGE..........
REWARDS
 
............VIP............
PROGRAM
 .
   PLAY NOW    
mk4
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2912
Merit: 3881


📟 t3rminal.xyz


View Profile WWW
May 02, 2019, 01:03:14 PM
 #8

so if one of exchanges has 100k usd trading volume and 5% is real volume how we can buy form this exchange then


You don't. You shouldn't use random exchanges anyway. Stick with the reputable ones like Gemini[1]. If you don't want KYC/AML and you want to gamble with alts, then Binance[2].


[1] https://gemini.com/
[2] https://binance.com/

» t3rminal.xyz «
Telegram Alert Bots for Traders
Erickan
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 266
Merit: 18


View Profile
May 02, 2019, 01:13:04 PM
 #9

1. There are many fake exchanges just for the purpose of taking user money, you should not use small and newly established exchanges. Only use reputable exchanges and support good customers like Binance, Bittrex ... or use DEX exchanges.

2. The exchanges are counterfeiting trading volumes because they want to attract users and increase listing fees for projects that want to be listed on their platform.

So the principle of using an exchange is not to put too much of your assets on it, remember everything that can happen, put your money in a safe place.

Gabteb
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 812
Merit: 256



View Profile
May 02, 2019, 01:32:45 PM
 #10

Most of the exchanges do it may be all but don't think we can use the word "scam" no there are scammers yes, for example, Yobit which has ofc. pump and dump groups and the problem of fake volumes are a big problems of our days i think with time users would like to use exchanges which shows only real valume so normal exchanges would avoid from that practice.


                            █████
                        █████████████
                     █████████████
                 ██████████████        █████
              █████████████        ████████████
          ██████████████        █████████████
       █████████████        █████████████       ██████
       ██████████        ████████████           ██████
       ███████       █████████████       ███    ██████
       ███████    █████████████       ██████    ██████
       ████████████████████       ██████████    ██████
       █████████████████       █████████████    ██████
       █████████████       █████████████        ██████
       ██████████       █████████████           ██████
       ███████      ██████████████       ███    ██████
       ██████    █████████████       ███████    ██████
       ██████    ██████████       ██████████    ██████
       ██████    ██████        █████████████    ██████
       ██████    ███       █████████████        ██████
       ██████           █████████████       ██████████
       ██████       █████████████        █████████████
                 █████████████       █████████████
              ████████████        █████████████
                  ████         ████████████
                           █████████████
                         ███████████
                            █████
Ferrum Network • Interoperability Network for Financial Applications

Quote
DdmrDdmr
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2478
Merit: 11045


There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain


View Profile WWW
May 02, 2019, 02:40:40 PM
 #11

<...>
That’s what has moved CoinMarketCap to upgrade it’s requirements towards exchanges, making it mandatory for them to provide shortly live trading and order book information; that is, if they want to be considered in CoinMarketCap’s Adjusted Volume metric and volume-weighted average price calculations (i.e. they are exposed from not being listed here https://exchange-transparency.coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges).

See  CoinMarketCap Gives Exchanges 45 Days Deadline to Provide More Data for further details.

Recently, on my local board, a forum member commented that whilst working for a couple of ICOs, the resulting ICOs scanned the exchange market and were offered "promotional packages" to make their altcoin look like it was being traded way over what the reality of it was. That kind of gives us the core answer.
Indamuck
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1120
Merit: 554



View Profile
May 02, 2019, 02:42:31 PM
 #12

Its really easy money for scammers.  They no longer have to put effort into their scams.   Cryptocurrency has become their playground and they absolutely love that crypto transactions can't be reversed.
BrewMaster
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2114
Merit: 1293


There is trouble abrewing


View Profile
May 02, 2019, 03:42:53 PM
 #13

having fake volume doesn't make the exchanges scam, not exactly anyways. because if it did then all of the exchanges would have been considered scmmers. what it does is that it makes them dishonest and although it is bad but still not as bad.

the reason for all that is competition so that they don't seem dead in comparison to other exchanges that do fake volume and give unrealistic numbers.
this is different from actual scam exchanges where the place is made purely to empty the pockets of ttheir victims.

There is a FOMO brewing...
okala
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 980
Merit: 114


View Profile
May 02, 2019, 04:11:42 PM
 #14

Only three exchange among all the exchange have accurate volume, and binance is one of them most of them give fake market value and at that end up scamming there users. We all need to be careful about fake exchanges around.
joniboini
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2366
Merit: 1805



View Profile WWW
May 03, 2019, 12:38:23 AM
 #15

1. There are many fake exchanges just for the purpose of taking user money, you should not use small and newly established exchanges. Only use reputable exchanges and support good customers like Binance, Bittrex ... or use DEX exchanges.

Binance start from a small exchange with terrible support. So those new and small exchange might get big someday but it's always a pain in the ass if you use any exchange that is fairly new.

If you love to 'gamble' with exchange tokens, then you need to take the risk.

▄▄███████████████████▄▄
▄███████████████████████▄
████████▀░░░░░░░▀████████
███████░░░░░░░░░░░███████
███████░░░░░░░░░░░███████
██████▀░░░░░░░░░░░▀██████
██████▄░░░░░▄███▄░▄██████
██████████▀▀█████████████
████▀▄██▀░░░░▀▀▀░▀██▄▀███
███░░▀░░░░░░░░░░░░░▀░░███
████▄▄░░░░▄███▄░░░░▄▄████
▀███████████████████████▀
▀▀███████████████████▀▀
 
 CHIPS.GG 
▄▄███████▄▄
▄████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀████▄
███▀░▄░▀▀▀▀▀░▄░▀███
▄███
░▄▀░░░░░░░░░▀▄░███▄
▄███░▄░░░▄█████▄░░░▄░███▄
███░▄▀░░░███████░░░▀▄░███
███░█░░░▀▀▀▀▀░░░▀░░░█░███
███░▀▄░▄▀░▄██▄▄░▀▄░▄▀░██
▀███
░▀░▀▄██▀░▀██▄▀░▀░██▀
▀███
░▀▄░░░░░░░░░▄▀░██▀
▀███▄
░▀░▄▄▄▄▄░▀░▄███▀
▀█
███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄████▀
█████████████████████████
▄▄███████▄▄
███
████████████▄
▄█▀▀▀▄
█████████▄▀▀▀█▄
▄██████▀▄▄▄▄▄▀██████▄
▄█████████████▄████████▄
████████▄███████▄████████
█████▄█████████▄██████
██▄▄▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀▄▄██
▀█████████▀▀███████████▀
▀███████████████████▀
██████████████████
▀████▄███▄▄
████▀
████████████████████████
3000+
UNIQUE
GAMES
|
12+
CURRENCIES
ACCEPTED
|
VIP
REWARD
PROGRAM
 
 
  Play Now  
50 Cent
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 519
Merit: 197



View Profile
May 03, 2019, 01:00:09 AM
 #16

why there is so many scam exchanges across all cryptocurrency with fake volume
to get new user register on they exchange, because new user always believe with big volume can make big profit them investment. then got it, exchange stolen your money and dumped price.

Velkro
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2296
Merit: 1014



View Profile
May 03, 2019, 01:06:29 AM
 #17

why there is so many scam exchanges across all cryptocurrency with fake volume
Because they take profit and thats what they do. This is not good, but this is how people are sometimes.
We must protect ourselfs with knowledge and experience. Best defence people can learn.
Bitcoin_Arena
Copper Member
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2114
Merit: 1814


฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.


View Profile
May 03, 2019, 06:42:38 AM
Last edit: May 03, 2019, 07:34:45 AM by Bitcoin_Arena
 #18

so if one of exchanges has 100k usd trading volume and 5% is real volume how we can buy form this exchange then
Virtually it's almost impossible if you are placing a limit order because the bots will continue trading with itself and leave out your orders. The only way is maybe you do a direct market order. It has ever happened to me on Digifinex and i will never trade from that exchange again. I withdrew all my assets.

Ipwich
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1050
Merit: 529


Student Coin


View Profile
May 03, 2019, 06:46:16 AM
 #19

Because they take advantage on mostly newbies in the market who does not have enough knowledge in crypto yet.
This is happening even before and they are increasing, and the only solution to this I think is the crypto market regulation, which might come soon.

STUDENTCOIN


















Powered by,
r1s2g3
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 742
Merit: 395


I am alive but in hibernation.


View Profile
May 03, 2019, 02:55:53 PM
 #20

Your purpose is solved even if one legit exchange exist. Even the exchange is legit you should not leave your coins on exchange.

If dubious about exchange then try to do small trades at a time or better do not involve with them.

I am alive
Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!