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If you could make any economy/token/currency token what would you make? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o63R3-cpraw
 
1. One with decentralized voting built into it, so we can vote on issues rather voting people to vote for us. (unlimited jobs created for when robots take over, universal basic income)
2. One where the tx fees go to support global projects (garbage,hospitals,self sustaining farms, back up housing for the people in natural disasters,food for the working class, gas for the working class and the decentralized voting allows us the people to say where our taxes go)
3. One with a fairly distributed supply though file sharing verification (weather it be equal hashing power to all users on the network or duration dispensed into unique address verified by picture and fingerprint or we could even do blood, via file sharing / and populations if don`t unite)
4. One with a built in exchange p2p trading(these banks getting "hacked" then getting bailed out by other banks or governments need to stop)
5. One that people would not trade for the current fiat because it is the new fiat
6. One that does leave our future generations enslaved because we mined it all before them (we all should start the race equally no matter if we are born later in life, bitcoin is a 100% premine (I know it is not premined to us) to anyone being born after 2025 pretty much and watch the ending of huntercoin on youtube the simulation of what happens) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7TLFyK_3Pk
7. One that is not another mans money supply, but everyone creates the supply so it is everyone's (I mean we all back the current system with our work and time)
8. One that is not so harsh on the environment and power usage but instead uses the power to good use and does not create waste  https://youtu.be/K8kua5B5K3I?t=285(literal a non shit coin)
9. One that the united nations united to become the "united nation" to create because they are the people to do this and make it work slowly I mean they got unlimited funds already. (and no one needs to give up anything they already own)
10. One that can also share a wifi network (like the red pill thing from defcon) with its own satellites/wifi running it on each device running the wallet.
11. One that is not prone to 51% attacks (china should not have 81% of the hashing power) but the rule of 50.00000000000000000000000000000000000000001% rules in the public polls for voting.
12. One this is not prone to duplicate addresses in the future
13. One that is much faster
14. One I would look forward to earning when I woke up
15. I would not need another One

It should be mined by everyone at a fair rate I don`t care if it is pow or pos or through duration/time. equal hashing power, equal timed(duration gained), equal starting supply, Whatever works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7TLFyK_3Pk (how voting, distribution and p2p exchanges can be done)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bowyBKPt15U (how everyone could make their own coin) in 3 clicks

Joe makes a supply of 1000 of Joecoin
Mike (I) makes a supply of 1000 Mikecoin

When Mike obtains Joe coin it turns into Mikecoin
When Joe obtains Mike coin its turns into Joecoin

Both verify using file sharing

Let`s us trade.

also worthy to note:
I have two workers for me, 1 duration token = 1 hour (collected via universal basic income) 1 hour = 10$ (if you feel the need to convert into fiat or the country's base wage) One worker I pay 10$ because they are new or 1 token an hour One worker I pay 20$ because they are experienced or 2 tokens an hour in one hour the first worker earns 1 token in one hour the second worked earns 2 tokens.

I could sell a good chair for 1 hour, I could sell a average chair for 30 minutes, I could sell a used chair missing a leg for 10 seconds or .01 of a token

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5135915.0 refer to this post for more information.


We could have base income (welfare) you get this because we fucked up the system so bad if everyone were to go to nature and live peaceful we would run out of food supply real quick, basic needs water,food and shelter is what this would cover.

We could have active voter income (instead of paying people to make up our mind, we get to vote on issues presented by anyone in the colony)
100 people in the gym Joe wants to play Basketball, Sally wants to play Soccer, we elected them in as representatives for us. 98 of us want to play dodgeball, now we are stuck with one of the first two options.  
 
We could have worker income (and different rates for what the people want to pay out of taxes for people to do things) and those people vote on who does them via trust and good reviews on the people executing them.

Anyone could still enterprise, no one needs to give up what they already have or what they will have in the future, a soft reset to the system instead of a total shutdown. No one needs to die, no one needs to give up what they earned.
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I like everything in this post except that part about the united nations running it, do we need them?. I made an account on this forum just for you thank you for opening my eyes. I been a long time reader, you made me a first time poster.
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May 04, 2019, 08:12:46 AM
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Decentralized voting, no longer must we vote people to vote for us.

 


File sharing to create digital passports and make sure everyone only has one account.



Decentralized exchanges, you keep your coins in your wallet until you trade, you don`t have to trust 3rd party sites that get hacked all the time. cough mt.gox etc etc





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I like everything in this post except that part about the united nations running it, do we need them?. I made an account on this forum just for you thank you for opening my eyes. I been a long time reader, you made me a first time poster.

I mean you are bound by the laws in which country you reside in, however if we built a "big boat" people call them seastead`s https://www.thedailybeast.com/bitcoin-couple-nadia-thepdet-and-chad-elwartowski-face-death-penalty-for-seasteading-off-thailand this is why we need to call it a "big boat", we could live out in international waters anchor our "big boat" down and claim it as a island (so it would not longer be bound by the laws of U.N. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_waters, we would then be land, and we become our own nation. We could actually have more land than all of the countries combined atm.

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Ancient Greece used to have a true democracy, the only reason they stopped was to many people came into circulation and they did not have blockchain tech, or computers, so they elected representatives. No one has tried it since, just voting people to vote for you is all I see and using other peoples money supply instead of a fair one is all I see. What good is bitcoin of fiat can buy it all up? A huge dishonesty in society is to accept paper money to define your purchasing power that is not a pure measurement. Manipulated by banks and governments using free press.
 
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May the 4th be with you.

Fiat will do fine, "no it won`t", bitcoins will do fine "no they won`t"
What you think you are some kind of Jedi or something? Only fairly distributed money works on me (not earned money)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fchC0Dscm9I

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Bitcoin: Beyond The Bubble - Full Documentary  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LszOt51OjXU Just watch the start of this.
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not to sure why the admins moved this thread again away from the bitcoin forums, making all the links I sent people stale. THIS IS WHAT BITCOIN SHOULD BE! now this thread is stuck with a bunch of $laves trying to pump some b.s. to gain more $lave $ystem money, ahh well. I hope some of you see this.
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not to sure why the admins moved this thread again away from the bitcoin forums, making all the links I sent people stale. THIS IS WHAT BITCOIN SHOULD BE! now this thread is stuck with a bunch of $laves trying to pump some b.s. to gain more $lave $ystem money, ahh well. I hope some of you see this.
Maybe because you've inputted to its title 'token' that's why it's moved in the Altcoin Discussion, above anything else you still have a good point and people would read this if they find it substantial and even it's not in the Bitcoin forums.



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May 05, 2019, 04:53:54 AM
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not to sure why the admins moved this thread again away from the bitcoin forums, making all the links I sent people stale. THIS IS WHAT BITCOIN SHOULD BE! now this thread is stuck with a bunch of $laves trying to pump some b.s. to gain more $lave $ystem money, ahh well. I hope some of you see this.
Maybe because you've inputted to its title 'token' that's why it's moved in the Altcoin Discussion, above anything else you still have a good point and people would read this if they find it substantial and even it's not in the Bitcoin forums.

edit to *currency, is this better?
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Maybe because you've inputted to its title 'token' that's why it's moved in the Altcoin Discussion, above anything else you still have a good point and people would read this if they find it substantial and even it's not in the Bitcoin forums.
I also have a way to tie it into bitcoin. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5137618.0
1 guy miss clicked.
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May 05, 2019, 09:43:21 AM
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not to sure why the admins moved this thread again away from the bitcoin forums, making all the links I sent people stale. THIS IS WHAT BITCOIN SHOULD BE! now this thread is stuck with a bunch of $laves trying to pump some b.s. to gain more $lave $ystem money, ahh well. I hope some of you see this.
Maybe because you've inputted to its title 'token' that's why it's moved in the Altcoin Discussion, above anything else you still have a good point and people would read this if they find it substantial and even it's not in the Bitcoin forums.
Yeah, and the scope of your topic actually is really broad when we are just going to pertain on bitcoin and its uses. It is said that "What token should we make" has already made sense to the forum that we need something aside from bitcoin, and any other crypto is considered an altcoin and that's why.

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not to sure why the admins moved this thread again away from the bitcoin forums, making all the links I sent people stale. THIS IS WHAT BITCOIN SHOULD BE! now this thread is stuck with a bunch of $laves trying to pump some b.s. to gain more $lave $ystem money, ahh well. I hope some of you see this.
Maybe because you've inputted to its title 'token' that's why it's moved in the Altcoin Discussion, above anything else you still have a good point and people would read this if they find it substantial and even it's not in the Bitcoin forums.
Yeah, and the scope of your topic actually is really broad when we are just going to pertain on bitcoin and its uses. It is said that "What token should we make" has already made sense to the forum that we need something aside from bitcoin, and any other crypto is considered an altcoin and that's why.

Here is the topic:

fair distributed money supply (not just for us people alive now but for everyone born in the future)
fair voting system, everyone paying taxes votes on issues, or can create issues to vote on
Global passports via file sharing
UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME
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No one cares to create something better? or expand on this idea?  I guess I will.
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What about literal "child chains" (not talking about what ardor/bitswift uses) but could also be used in this.

A problem to creating self sustaining society's is keeping population at a constant.  If everyone would only have 1 kid, or a couple have 2. Population would never exceed its current number.

What if you had a UBI and if you and your wife had 2 kids, at your 3rd kid you would have to give up 1/2 your UBI, and at your 4th kid you both lost your UBI.

seems like we would not have to do things like this   Undecided
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy

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If you could make any economy/token/currency token what would you make? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o63R3-cpraw
 
1. One with decentralized voting built into it, so we can vote on issues rather voting people to vote for us. (unlimited jobs created for when robots take over, universal basic income)
2. One where the tx fees go to support global projects (garbage,hospitals,self sustaining farms, back up housing for the people in natural disasters,food for the working class, gas for the working class and the decentralized voting allows us the people to say where our taxes go)
3. One with a fairly distributed supply though file sharing verification (weather it be equal hashing power to all users on the network or duration dispensed into unique address verified by picture and fingerprint or we could even do blood, via file sharing / and populations if don`t unite)
4. One with a built in exchange p2p trading(these banks getting "hacked" then getting bailed out by other banks or governments need to stop)
5. One that people would not trade for the current fiat because it is the new fiat
6. One that does leave our future generations enslaved because we mined it all before them (we all should start the race equally no matter if we are born later in life, bitcoin is a 100% premine (I know it is not premined to us) to anyone being born after 2025 pretty much and watch the ending of huntercoin on youtube the simulation of what happens) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7TLFyK_3Pk
7. One that is not another mans money supply, but everyone creates the supply so it is everyone's (I mean we all back the current system with our work and time)
8. One that is not so harsh on the environment and power usage but instead uses the power to good use and does not create waste  https://youtu.be/K8kua5B5K3I?t=285(literal a non shit coin)
9. One that the united nations united to become the "united nation" to create because they are the people to do this and make it work slowly I mean they got unlimited funds already. (and no one needs to give up anything they already own)
10. One that can also share a wifi network (like the red pill thing from defcon) with its own satellites/wifi running it on each device running the wallet.
11. One that is not prone to 51% attacks (china should not have 81% of the hashing power) but the rule of 50.00000000000000000000000000000000000000001% rules in the public polls for voting.
12. One this is not prone to duplicate addresses in the future
13. One that is much faster
14. One I would look forward to earning when I woke up
15. I would not need another One

It should be mined by everyone at a fair rate I don`t care if it is pow or pos or through duration/time. equal hashing power, equal timed(duration gained), equal starting supply, Whatever works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7TLFyK_3Pk (how voting, distribution and p2p exchanges can be done)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bowyBKPt15U (how everyone could make their own coin) in 3 clicks

Joe makes a supply of 1000 of Joecoin
Mike (I) makes a supply of 1000 Mikecoin

When Mike obtains Joe coin it turns into Mikecoin
When Joe obtains Mike coin its turns into Joecoin

Both verify using file sharing

Let`s us trade.

also worthy to note:
I have two workers for me, 1 duration token = 1 hour (collected via universal basic income) 1 hour = 10$ (if you feel the need to convert into fiat or the country's base wage) One worker I pay 10$ because they are new or 1 token an hour One worker I pay 20$ because they are experienced or 2 tokens an hour in one hour the first worker earns 1 token in one hour the second worked earns 2 tokens.

I could sell a good chair for 1 hour, I could sell a average chair for 30 minutes, I could sell a used chair missing a leg for 10 seconds or .01 of a token

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5135915.0 refer to this post for more information.

We could have base income (welfare) you get this because we fucked up the system so bad if everyone were to go to nature and live peaceful we would run out of food supply real quick, basic needs water,food and shelter is what this would cover.

We could have active voter income (instead of paying people to make up our mind, we get to vote on issues presented by anyone in the colony)
100 people in the gym Joe wants to play Basketball, Sally wants to play Soccer, we elected them in as representatives for us. 98 of us want to play dodgeball, now we are stuck with one of the first two options.  
 
We could have worker income (and different rates for what the people want to pay out of taxes for people to do things) and those people vote on who does them via trust and good reviews on the people executing them.

Anyone could still enterprise, no one needs to give up what they already have or what they will have in the future, a soft reset to the system instead of a total shutdown. No one needs to die, no one needs to give up what they earned.

The problem is inflation. The value of the token may remain same but it's value against another currency would decrease if everyone has the token and they get it for free. You may get a chair for 1 hour initially, after all people doing the same and no one making the chair, the price of chair would increase.
It might not make people richer than other but it would certainly make some people poorer than they used to be.


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Decentralized voting, no longer must we vote people to vote for us.


File sharing to create digital passports and make sure everyone only has one account.





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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ot2FFc_Qq4 I feel ytcracker, I have already been in there, they injected my a$$ with random stuff, unwillingly and I was causing no harm, I was just there because I asked to be put down I wanted euthanasia, Who knows what they shoved in me?. Had 8 cops smash my face in, look at my mug shot, and police surveillance went missing when I went to the courts "I asked within a month of that happening it took awhile to piece my brain back together. I saw that officer the original one that woke me up on the side of the road for being homeless and proceeded to smash my head off his car to take me to another 8 that smashed my head off the toilet seat in the holding cell, randomly walking down the street later that week I ran into him. I said hey man what you did was not cool, I did not even try and resist arrest. He apologized "I was new to this city I am from this other region, I had to prove myself here, I am sorry, are we cool?" I forgave him.  I came up with that camera on every officer 15 years ago and if your camera is not online to the network, you should be off duty. I Got charged with assault on a officer for defending myself and guess what you try to do it to me again I will instagib you I don`t care if there is 100 of you next time. I did literally nothing I was standing there like ordered. I said "excuse me can you repeat that" as he was reading me my rights because I did not understand a part he said and then he proceeded to smash my head off the top of his car while I was in cuffs. I will not cause harm to you unless you cause harm to me. 4 times I have been a victim of police brutality, 3 times in hospital. The proof is on the cameras shall we take a look? Told my doctor "I think I have Arachnoiditis I been reading up about it online" on the phone I was in some major spine pain that morning like it really hurts I can`t sit still for more than 10 minutes anyways, 30 minutes later 2 cops and 2 police show up to my house and the doctor told them I had been seeing spiders.... WTF? that call is on recording to. They took me to the hospital and tried to give me crazy pills for the 2nd time. Look I have nothing wrong with me, I have 0 symptoms of what you are prescribing me, I told you on camera I lied to and was trying to milk the system ( YES I LIED I MILK MY GOVERNMENT FOR 200$ 10 years AGO ) is what I said to the doctor. "I want to pay back the money" "I do not want to harm anyone I just want to be put down I have no weapons" -me, it is in the police call for the 1st incident, Did you really need to come up and put me in cuffs and shove me around? I just want to be put down peacefully. But now I don`t, I respect being created. I want to show my creator I want to live even if I die trying.
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May 08, 2019, 11:16:21 AM
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What if we used child chains, to insure your offspring gets your savings to them? when you die if you have in trusted you son or daughter with your will via file sharing (child sharing), you can co sign them under your face scan.

When you pass they get everything, without having to give the government 33% of it.
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