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May 05, 2019, 05:53:16 AM
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Hey,

It feels like clear merit abusing to me.

Merit sender: krack-r    -    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=899157
Merit reciever: DayTrader27    -    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2537539


Post which got 11 merits and isn't totally worth it quoted below:

Hi,
There were exchanges which were not asking for KYC, but in the last several months they just started doing it.
I can provide KYC, but do not want to send them picture of ME holding the document. Looks like most of them are asking for Selfie nowaday.
I can provide any other documents, but NO SELFIE.
Any idea anyone?
Thanks!

Hmm... I dont believe such an exchange exists. Especially for such an amount. They may also require you to send them deposit confirmation form and proof of residence. Otherwise tax authorities will suspend their license and fine them.
You could trade with people directly or on paxful but 100000gbp at once...
I know an exchange office in Bulgaria that will exchange big amounts of cash, but not bank wires.
Have you checked in the UK? I believe there should be banks that offer this service.
I can help you with a few hundred quid worth. Definitely not 100grand, though.



I am sorry if I did report wrongly, but felt suspicious to me and moderators could check this out. Thanks.

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May 05, 2019, 08:54:04 AM
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Post doesn't deserve 11 merit, but question is why are you think this is merit abuse? Merit transaction isn't moderated by forum, so this isn't matter of moderators. And also, admin isn't encourage to tag someone based on suspicion of merit abuse. Try to find more details of they are connected account or they are involved with merit sell. There is so many merit sender like this, they send 50 merit on ANN thread. Also we can't tag them based on suspicion.

On the other hand sender already tagged by other DT member so he/she isn't worrying about red tag anymore. Perhaps sender building his/her new account, but need enough evidence. Try to investigate more..

Just sending merit doesn't prove anything.

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May 05, 2019, 10:12:48 AM
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Merit sender has got negative trust on his account and its true that 11 merit doesn’t worthy for that post. There could be possibilities of being a alt account but honestly just based on merit sending issue its relatively tough to detect. After having proper evidence we can reach on a decission about this issue. Moderators have no works with that in my opinion because merit sender have the power to send merits where number of merits is also his decission.

 In this forum there's been a lot of incidents where we found some guys tried to establish new account after getting negative trust on old one. I think after getting negative trust some of the users being so crazy to build their new account but they need to keep it on mind that its kinda tough to change your old style of writting and way of thinking man. Sooner or later their all hidden activities will be opened to everyone.


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May 05, 2019, 11:23:36 AM
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Thank you for answers. I will try to keep eye on them, its probably not good enough evidence that both account has main number of posts at currency exchange sub-forum, both accounts has posts about pokerstars exchange, which I understand is not also good enough.

I am quite sure DayTrader27 is new account of krack-r. But we will see, sooner or later it will come out. Smiley

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May 05, 2019, 11:44:01 AM
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I am quite sure DayTrader27 is new account of krack-r. But we will see, sooner or later it will come out. Smiley
That may or may not be true, but if I were you I wouldn't bother looking at merit transactions like this too closely unless there's other evidence available.  For one thing, moderators aren't going to do anything about merit abuse and they don't care if someone has alt accounts, even if those accounts are abusing bounties or even scamming.  Secondly, even DT members aren't tagging merit abusers unless there's very clear proof and only if the abuse is blatant--and even then, they may not tag someone just for merit abuse.

Don't start threads about fishy merit transactions, that's my advice.  If you compile enough proof that accounts are linked and that those accounts are engaged in some wrongdoing aside from merit issues, then feel free to make a thread in either Reputation or Scam Accusation.  Good effort in trying to help the forum, though.

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May 05, 2019, 04:12:36 PM
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I am sorry if I did report wrongly, but felt suspicious to me and moderators could check this out. Thanks.
Someone gave 11 merits that don't mean anything unethical, I have also seen both of them targeting to post mainly on currency exchange and this also can't prove anything. To proof merit, abuse needs more proof and for your kind information want to say you that moderator does not moderate merit abuse or scam activities or anything like this.

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May 06, 2019, 01:50:37 PM
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Thank you for answers. I will try to keep eye on them, its probably not good enough evidence that both account has main number of posts at currency exchange sub-forum, both accounts has posts about pokerstars exchange, which I understand is not also good enough.

I am quite sure DayTrader27 is new account of krack-r. But we will see, sooner or later it will come out. Smiley
There's no merit abuse on this one, though the post is really not worth it.
Yes you can monitor their account if you're serious on this one and if there's something suspicious again report it right away. Its possible that its an account of krack-r considering the red trust since 2017, but we cannot give into this kind of conclusion, we need  a strong evidence. Remember, DT's are liable on their reviews and if they failed on this one they might miss the chance of being a DT.
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May 06, 2019, 01:54:24 PM
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Thank you for answers. I will try to keep eye on them, its probably not good enough evidence that both account has main number of posts at currency exchange sub-forum, both accounts has posts about pokerstars exchange, which I understand is not also good enough.

I am quite sure DayTrader27 is new account of krack-r. But we will see, sooner or later it will come out. Smiley
There's no merit abuse on this one, though the post is really not worth it.
Yes you can monitor their account if you're serious on this one and if there's something suspicious again report it right away. Its possible that its an account of krack-r considering the red trust since 2017, but we cannot give into this kind of conclusion, we need  a strong evidence. Remember, DT's are liable on their reviews and if they failed on this one they might miss the chance of being a DT.

Yes, thank you for answer. I will try to monitor them, even today they logged in and out in same time. (Just 2 minute gap, seems too much coincidences to me, but still not strong evidences.)

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May 06, 2019, 04:20:05 PM
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There is really not a lot to work on since only one exchange has happened we haven't seen both of them having at least one kind of merit exchange to one another. Another thing is that both of them really don have any connection at all except for that one merit transaction that happened. If we only judge merit abuse through this way then members could just at least send 10 merits to incriminate and give a negative feedback to the receivers which I think would be an unfair and unjust way to give them a negative feedback.
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May 06, 2019, 04:34:03 PM
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There is really not a lot to work on since only one exchange has happened we haven't seen both of them having at least one kind of merit exchange to one another. Another thing is that both of them really don have any connection at all except for that one merit transaction that happened. If we only judge merit abuse through this way then members could just at least send 10 merits to incriminate and give a negative feedback to the receivers which I think would be an unfair and unjust way to give them a negative feedback.
There is a chance that they are on a group or same local and they might have personal communication for that they may exchange these merits and by the gues of this we cant say it is merit abuse. Also if your local people give you 10+ merit which does not deserve we still can say anything.

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May 09, 2019, 05:02:21 PM
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This user is abusing me and spamming all of my topics. Not only - he started a topic about me, because I have received merit to a post. I didn't even notice until this * pointed it out. I can't and won't have the merit removed, because this not his forum, and he is not a moderator.

EDIT: I think he's in love with me and wants me to bang him.
@some138: Sorry dude, I like girls. Maybe when you were little you sold yourself to your uncle. That's why you always see bargain everywhere. And maybe, just people dont like you and the annoying Taylor Swift avatar of yours. I swear I get IBS just looking at it.
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May 09, 2019, 05:13:56 PM
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This user is abusing me and spamming all of my topics. Not only - he started a topic about me, because I have received merit to a post. I didn't even notice until this * pointed it out. I can't and won't have the merit removed, because this not his forum, and he is not a moderator.

EDIT: I think he's in love with me and wants me to bang him.
@some138: Sorry dude, I like girls. Maybe when you were little you sold yourself to your uncle. That's why you always see bargain everywhere. And maybe, just people dont like you and the annoying Taylor Swift avatar of yours. I swear I get IBS just looking at it.
If any user spam then you canreport to moderator and if really spam then ost will be removed and there is a chance to be  banned. Butif you are wrong then no action will be taken.

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May 09, 2019, 05:24:09 PM
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This user is abusing me and spamming all of my topics. Not only - he started a topic about me, because I have received merit to a post. I didn't even notice until this * pointed it out. I can't and won't have the merit removed, because this not his forum, and he is not a moderator.

EDIT: I think he's in love with me and wants me to bang him.
@some138: Sorry dude, I like girls. Maybe when you were little you sold yourself to your uncle. That's why you always see bargain everywhere. And maybe, just people dont like you and the annoying Taylor Swift avatar of yours. I swear I get IBS just looking at it.
If any user spam then you canreport to moderator and if really spam then ost will be removed and there is a chance to be  banned. Butif you are wrong then no action will be taken.

I reported him today, thanks. I just want them to feel spammed a little bit. I dont even know what his problem is.
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May 10, 2019, 04:55:02 AM
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Who is the spammer now? I don't go as low as you do. Such a clown.

200€ to exchange. 1:1 trade.
Sending first to reputable members. Accepting escrow also.

STAY AWAY FROM THIS USER. He buys kiddie porn with your bitcoin. Dont trade with him if you want to avoid 4 years of ass pounding in prison!

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May 10, 2019, 05:02:55 AM
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Who is the spammer now? I don't go as low as you do. Such a clown.

200€ to exchange. 1:1 trade.
Sending first to reputable members. Accepting escrow also.

STAY AWAY FROM THIS USER. He buys kiddie porn with your bitcoin. Dont trade with him if you want to avoid 4 years of ass pounding in prison!
You cant spam anyone for the response of that person's response, the better solution is to make a report to the moderators and the moderator will take perfect action.

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