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May 05, 2019, 11:55:33 PM
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There are a couple of threads about various evaluations around the forum. Such evaluations are interesting because they give a better insight into the community. I would be interested to know the number of members by rank. If evaluable, also by activity. For example, how many members by rank were active in the last month?

Can anyone do such evaluations?
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May 06, 2019, 01:21:09 AM
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May 06, 2019, 02:17:59 AM
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I made simple calculation on average post per user per rank.

Excluding Administrator, Staff, Global Moderator, the top five ranks in average post per user per rank last month (from suchmoon's given data above) are:
  • Legendary
  • Hero
  • Jr. Member
  • Copper Member
  • Sr. Member

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May 06, 2019, 02:30:11 AM
Merited by Welsh (3), tyz (2), DdmrDdmr (2), LoyceV (1), VB1001 (1)
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Sorry, the third column was not the number of posts, it's the number of users who posted. Here's the data with better column names and the actual number of posts:



CSV:

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Rank,Total number of users,Users who posted in the last 30 days,Posts in the last 30 days
Brand new,1890017,2063,5182
Newbie,610359,16724,127497
Member,28719,2347,56891
Full Member,18152,2116,56898
Jr. Member,10133,2023,40123
Sr. Member,9025,1550,48481
Copper Member,5525,1091,21969
Hero Member,4076,901,44146
Legendary,2244,878,35404
Donator,109,12,375
VIP,37,2,5
Staff,22,18,900
Global Moderator,3,2,54
Administrator,2,2,74
Founder,1,0,0

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May 06, 2019, 02:48:28 AM
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From the raw statistics, it seems that months after the birthday of both merit system and new rank requirements, massive spam has gone away. Lower ranks, like Junior Member, and Full Member are less actively posting than before, or they get banned/ nuked, or don't have interest to keep spamming because they feel that they can rank up.

Now, it is the era of Legendary, Hero, and Senior member ranks, those ranks in the top 3. Excluding Legendary rank, I doubt that most of posts made in Hero Member and Senior Member ranks come from non-self-made users and their shit posts. It is more interesting if someone can retrieve some figures (on two ranks, Hero Member & Senior Members) from users whom received less than 25 merits since Jan. 2018.:
- total posts made last month
- total users actively posted last month.
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May 06, 2019, 10:39:30 AM
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Just a few suggestions:

- Perhaps it would be better to express column "Average active-posting user per rank" as a percentage, allowing to see better the amount of posting members per rank.

- In addition, perhaps it would be better to express column "Average posts peruser per rank" based on the number of "users Who Posted" instead of "# of users". It seems more meaningful to express the post ratio in relation to those that post rather than those that exist per rank.

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May 06, 2019, 12:55:41 PM
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Really so surprised that the total number of full members and number of active full members is way more than the number of Jr members both in total and active.
I expected the Jr Members number to be at least closer to Newbie count since ranking up to the rank needs only just 1 Merit.


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May 06, 2019, 01:01:14 PM
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We will get a way better stats if anyone can add on those tables the number of permabanned accounts too but I don't know if is it possible to manage that stat without the admin power.

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May 06, 2019, 01:16:09 PM
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What's the deal with the insane number of Brand News? Are they username squatters or what's the deal? A lot of people want to be able to log into the forum but then never comment? Seems a bit weird.

Interestingly, when you add up all active users, Legendaries are less than 3% of the total population.

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May 06, 2019, 01:25:21 PM
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What's the deal with the insane number of Brand News? Are they username squatters or what's the deal? A lot of people want to be able to log into the forum but then never comment? Seems a bit weird.

Interestingly, when you add up all active users, Legendaries are less than 3% of the total population.


A huge amount of them are only bots spammers ready to start the spam. We often have examples here on the forum when a botnet start the spam even with accounts created years earlier.

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May 06, 2019, 02:15:01 PM
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Really so surprised that the total number of full members and number of active full members is way more than the number of Jr members both in total and active.
I expected the Jr Members number to be at least closer to Newbie count since ranking up to the rank needs only just 1 Merit.

Pre-merit full members have airdropped merits and were able to keep their ranks while pre-merit juniors have been demoted to newbies.

What's the deal with the insane number of Brand News? Are they username squatters or what's the deal? A lot of people want to be able to log into the forum but then never comment? Seems a bit weird.

Evil IPs and nukes.

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May 06, 2019, 02:30:06 PM
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Really so surprised that the total number of full members and number of active full members is way more than the number of Jr members both in total and active.
I expected the Jr Members number to be at least closer to Newbie count since ranking up to the rank needs only just 1 Merit.
Pre-merit full members have airdropped merits and were able to keep their ranks while pre-merit juniors have been demoted to newbies.
Spot on, never really thought about it for a second.
It really depicts a clear picture of how the merit system stopped lower ranking spammers from ranking up back from the Newbie rank

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May 06, 2019, 02:34:09 PM
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Interestingly, when you add up all active users, Legendaries are less than 3% of the total population.

Isn't that great news lol, majority of the inactive legendary accounts were just spammers that spam their way up to end of the foodchain. The less than 3% we have now who are actively participating on the forum, their presence are been felt so we good here. Now we need more self-made legendary users to keep the forum healthy.

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May 06, 2019, 02:39:39 PM
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Spot on, never really thought about it for a second.
It really depicts a clear picture of how the merit system stopped lower ranking spammers from ranking up back from the Newbie rank
Demotion on Junior Members whom did not get a single merit back to Newbies happened in September 2018. You can see full chronological history of merit system here.
One year anniversary of merit system

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I'm surprised by the sheer number of users on BitcoinTalk and how active most users seem to be.

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May 06, 2019, 03:33:39 PM
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What's the deal with the insane number of Brand News?

Guess maybe 45% of them from Account Farms and maybe 5% of them alts of CH , lol  Cheesy  Tongue
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May 06, 2019, 07:23:11 PM
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Thanks a lot for the data and evaluations!
I am really surprised that there are so few active users overall. Quite interesting is that there is such a big difference between the number of Newbies and next level Junior. Also interesting is that the number of Junior Members is quite lower than the numbers of Members and Full Members. Does anyone have a plausible explanation for this Huh
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May 06, 2019, 07:36:55 PM
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What's the deal with the insane number of Brand News? Are they username squatters or what's the deal?
IMO, one person creates several accounts to promote their shit in here, in other words for SPAMMING.
Last few days I have reported several topics which have the same content but posting with brand new accounts.

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May 06, 2019, 10:07:48 PM
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Thanks a lot for the data and evaluations!
I am really surprised that there are so few active users overall. Quite interesting is that there is such a big difference between the number of Newbies and next level Junior. Also interesting is that the number of Junior Members is quite lower than the numbers of Members and Full Members. Does anyone have a plausible explanation for this Huh
Suchmoon,talked about it here and it makes sense
Pre-merit full members have airdropped merits and were able to keep their ranks while pre-merit juniors have been demoted to newbies.

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Last edit: May 07, 2019, 05:01:55 AM by btcsmlcmnr
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I thank DdmrDdmr for valuable suggestions. I made it. Here are results:

Note: Excluding all ranks like Founder, Staff, Administrator, Donator, Global Moderator, and VIP. Here are some results:

1. Percentage of active users per rank
The top five rank are:
  • Legendary
  • Hero Member
  • Junior Member
  • Copper Member
  • Senior Member



2. Average posts of active users per rank
The top five ranks are:
  • Hero Member
  • Legendary
  • Senior Member
  • Full Member
  • Member
There are huge gaps between Hero Member, Legendary, and Senior member ranks, at 49, 40.3, and 31.3 average posts per active users, respectively.



It seems that Newbies and Brandnews reduce their level of spamming (due to banned, nuked, or they lost hope to rank up, and then give up spamming). Despite of the percentage of active Junior Members per total users at this rank is 20%, that is not much significant lower than the figure of Hero Member rank, but average posts per active users for Junior Member rank is 19.8 compared to 49 for Hero Member rank.
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