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May 06, 2019, 02:08:16 AM
Last edit: June 26, 2019, 08:10:29 PM by MarquiseMuseum
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I have been writing about waves potential for a long time but now it deserves its own speculation thread because I don't want to be hijacking the main thread.

There are several pros and cons with waves and I will list them all here and if you want to know specifics then just quote one bullet point and I will explain more about that and how it should be included in the final valuation of $Waves:

Pros:

1. 1000tx/s or more
2. Dex with btc and fiat gateways
3. Fixed supply (100 million)
4. Mass token transfer & message inclusion
5. Pywaves index site (lots of hidden value here)
6. Implentation of waves specific price tracking site (like cmc but waves tokens only)
7. Smart contract

Cons:

1. Ticker removal for tokens from june 15 (will be counteracted by community token voting soon) *postponed until december*
2. US client restrictions
3. 50% of supply in top 5 wallets
4. under developed dex UI (lots of hidden value extraction here)
5. Lack of fortune 500 onramping (vostok will take this role)
6. No small cap token tabs in dex/no token scroll function on dex such as volume/market cap browsing (needs manual input to find tokens in search field)

With this summary I will now continue to argue for a potential price development of this brand medium and long term and let's begin with a simplistic upper and lower price boundary based on historical development in log scale:



The price is following a pattern similar to the 2017 runup but at x10 multiple like $1.9 instead of $0.19 etc. We are now in an intermediate phase before a parabolic rise to $68 which I estimate will take place before end of August of this year. It seems the upper bound in this parabola is located at $125 which would value Waves at 12,5 billion dollars and this can be justified if certain criteria from the team development roadmap and suggestions are implemented. As such, there is no mystery with Waves price development as the value is already proven but for now remains largely hidden due to lack of mainstream UI development. All of these technically light weight improvements will easily push towards the $125 price and I believe that the movement will be like this:

IF this is bottom as I have argued in main thread, here at $1.9 as we saw a few days ago, then it should quickly impulse towards $4 from here and then basically move unhindered towards ath and $68 within a few months after which it will retrace to $18-22. Once the top is reached at $125 there is a more significant correction back to mid 30's depending on where we are in the greater bear/bull market by this time next year. Good scenario suggests retracement back to $80 level and bad is mid $30's.

On a longer time scale, a few years or more, Waves price potential is similar to Ethereums 2017 runup at $1800-2200 equivalent because these coins share a lot of commonalities in supply and tech. This scenario is largely dependent on global sentiments and the teams ability to remain competitive with smart contract implementation and onramping, but there are many other factors that must be perfected before $2000 can become a reality.

However, $70-125 is in play right now, and that is the reason for this thread, to lend a perspective to those of you that are too short sighted right now and counting pennies. It is time to expand the horizon for what is possible here.

In this intermediate phase I believe that Waves can attain a hybrid status like a small business market place and decentralized messaging platform, most importantly censorproof. This is then similar to ebay and twitter and should be reflected in their respective market caps (if successful) somewhere at $300 equivalent ($30 billion). By success I am referring to user acquisition and this in turn is reliant on UI improvements to attract mainstream users because waves is the most user friendly token issuance platform compared to Counterparty and Ethereum.

Finally, I believe that the marketing & branding function of waves with mass transfer protocol and message inclusion is heavily discounted compared to for example wall street journal cost per mille (CPM) as a small business owner can reach thousands of rich list and highly targeted users on this platform at a fraction (1/100 or less) of the cost of regular cmp of this caliber. This is an undiscovered market discrepancy which is a big factor in the $70-125 push. The reason that this value descrepancy is not accounted for is because this is high tech and marketers and small business owners of the old school are unable to fully understand the concepts at play here. But they will learn soon, there is only a slight delay.

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May 06, 2019, 07:45:23 AM
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Very well writen. I am whit Waves since ICO and even though i don't know exactly if it can do this move until eoy, for sure Waves got a bright future ahead.

I am sure however in next bull it will move quick and surprise allot of people, I'm not calling it the next ETH but it is a very solid project whit a great team. Great time to invest in Waves now
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May 06, 2019, 12:13:55 PM
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Do you have any price targets where are going to buy it where are going to sell it? Anybody know why it such a big dump of its price?

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Waves always had some good potential but people tend to not use it.

And even other projects price is flying, waves never get that great value. I don't know what they are doing wrong but something is.

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May 06, 2019, 02:01:20 PM
Last edit: May 07, 2019, 02:00:25 PM by MarquiseMuseum
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Waves always had some good potential but people tend to not use it.

And even other projects price is flying, waves never get that great value. I don't know what they are doing wrong but something is.

Do you have any price targets where are going to buy it where are going to sell it? Anybody know why it such a big dump of its price?

1. Ethereum is dominating the attention in the smart contracts space, and both ETH and Stellar permits American users whereas Waves, which is Russian engineered, does not.
2. Short term price decline is because of token ticker removal june 15th, which will be restored with community token voting I believe later this year so hopefully it is temporary, but if BTC goes back to $3000 then I would not be surprised if waves temporarily enters a final wave 5 towards $0.6 before rising significantly.
3. Waves needs a creative director and design staff for dex enhancement, perhaps some people experienced in video game UI design because waves are interested in video game developers to promote the currency use case.
4. Spam tokens with and without smart contracts are having a small negative impact on the platform which is easily counteracted by increaseing issuance fee significantly and implementing grace periods for mass transfers while also permitting direct community voting on the dex instead of a separate website. And of course using waves to vote not WCT. Proper tokens should have a much easier way to dex indexing with color coded tabs based on KYC level, daily volume, rating and so on (it's called gamification).
5. Finally, waves as are all cryptos, is lacking mainstream retail merchant onramping and is subject to regulations that is restricting value building.

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https://waves.exchange/trading/spot/BS1KFNR8zrXKBEWdUUvpaP6G57Hic3aESkwK7qQKdLpB_WAVES
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May 06, 2019, 04:05:40 PM
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5. Finally, waves as are all cryptos, is lacking mainstream retail merchant onramping and is subject to harsh regulations that is restricting value building. I am surprised that the community is so lax in face of government aggression in this space, because this is brand new 21st century tech without any jurisdiction from governments, this is an invention for the people of the world but they are not seizing the opportunity to act and defend the tech from usurpation by corrupt agencies.

Most of the crypto-accepting businesses are in US, Japan and Western Europe. Since Waves is not available for american users, this hurts a lot the size of its acceptance, whether it'll have better advertising or not.
Although Russia has a large population, the percentage of those that have money they afford to lose in order to invest is not great.

I think that the main direction should be towards getting Waves accepted officially in US too. Although the Americans have a reticence against Russian "products", this move could do much more good than advertising in the territories where Waves is already present.

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May 13, 2019, 07:51:06 AM
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5. Finally, waves as are all cryptos, is lacking mainstream retail merchant onramping and is subject to harsh regulations that is restricting value building. I am surprised that the community is so lax in face of government aggression in this space, because this is brand new 21st century tech without any jurisdiction from governments, this is an invention for the people of the world but they are not seizing the opportunity to act and defend the tech from usurpation by corrupt agencies.

Most of the crypto-accepting businesses are in US, Japan and Western Europe. Since Waves is not available for american users, this hurts a lot the size of its acceptance, whether it'll have better advertising or not.
Although Russia has a large population, the percentage of those that have money they afford to lose in order to invest is not great.

I think that the main direction should be towards getting Waves accepted officially in US too. Although the Americans have a reticence against Russian "products", this move could do much more good than advertising in the territories where Waves is already present.
IMHO this is international token with the big corporation structure, from Russia it has only CEO.

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Shakeout before breakout if bottom is not already in, few more days. tracking $7-11, then $25, and then basically $70 before major correction back to sub $20.

Vostok scheme failed so now they (censorship permitting entities) have to dig in with $$$. Waves is unfiltered mass communication = not tolerable in totalitarian control society.

Everyone will then be bought out at parabola to $200-2000 and render platform unusable (for normal people who cant print unlimited fiat or are on the inside of those who can) due to too high mass transfer cost. Hopefully there is some voting mechanism based on stake amount to change transfer price if waves goes up alot.


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https://waves.exchange/trading/spot/BS1KFNR8zrXKBEWdUUvpaP6G57Hic3aESkwK7qQKdLpB_WAVES
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Does anyone know what is the high and low of vostok price token?  In waves wallet right now, it shows current price is 79 cents. 
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Does anyone know what is the high and low of vostok price token?  In waves wallet right now, it shows current price is 79 cents. 

There was a dump to 0.14 and then it immediately went to 0.8 then back to 0.25 then 0.42 and now it is at 0.33. I believe main stock of 1 billion is now in float. During 0.8 rally there were only 30 million coins from airdrop.

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https://waves.exchange/trading/spot/BS1KFNR8zrXKBEWdUUvpaP6G57Hic3aESkwK7qQKdLpB_WAVES
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Does anyone know what is the high and low of vostok price token?  In waves wallet right now, it shows current price is 79 cents. 

There was a dump to 0.14 and then it immediately went to 0.8 then back to 0.25 then 0.42 and now it is at 0.33. I believe main stock of 1 billion is now in float. During 0.8 rally there were only 30 million coins from airdrop.



The price now is $0.80 right?  So earlier today it was only $0.33?  How do we find the high low price of vostok?  Its not in coinmarketcap.
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June 17, 2019, 11:40:17 PM
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it is not dollars it is waves price per coin

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https://waves.exchange/trading/spot/BS1KFNR8zrXKBEWdUUvpaP6G57Hic3aESkwK7qQKdLpB_WAVES
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Does anyone know what is the high and low of vostok price token?  In waves wallet right now, it shows current price is 79 cents. 

There was a dump to 0.14 and then it immediately went to 0.8 then back to 0.25 then 0.42 and now it is at 0.33. I believe main stock of 1 billion is now in float. During 0.8 rally there were only 30 million coins from airdrop.



The price now is $0.80 right?  So earlier today it was only $0.33?  How do we find the high low price of vostok?  Its not in coinmarketcap.

Price is $2.42 here
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Im confused.  Can someone tell me current price of 1 vostok now?  Earlier, it showed in my waves wallet, that the current price of 1 vostok is 80 cents. 
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Does anyone know what is the high and low of vostok price token?  In waves wallet right now, it shows current price is 79 cents. 

There was a dump to 0.14 and then it immediately went to 0.8 then back to 0.25 then 0.42 and now it is at 0.33. I believe main stock of 1 billion is now in float. During 0.8 rally there were only 30 million coins from airdrop.



The price now is $0.80 right?  So earlier today it was only $0.33?  How do we find the high low price of vostok?  Its not in coinmarketcap.

Price is $2.42 here

That's a waves price, vostok (VST) here - https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/vostok

Im confused.  Can someone tell me current price of 1 vostok now?  Earlier, it showed in my waves wallet, that the current price of 1 vostok is 80 cents. 

Based on the above link, price now is currently $0.769894, actually I'm not familiar with this coin as I don't touch Waves tokens yet.

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June 21, 2019, 09:36:51 PM
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$7.6/0.0008

May not enter reversal until $68 so don't sell too quickly at those initial 300% or you'll find yourselves chasing in a parabolic move.

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June 25, 2019, 11:18:05 AM
Last edit: June 27, 2019, 09:23:00 AM by MarquiseMuseum
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Maybe bottom 0.00015 and top 0.002 with 35k btc = 70 dollar target. a few months.

If wave 5 first, then around $0.5-$0.75 0.00015/4-5k btc. $70 dollars delayed for 12 months or more.

2nd update june 27 $2 waves/0.00017 11,7k btc: Perhaps terminal bottom for waves in dollars (double bottom) and btc equivalent. If BTC recovers in this area or move sideways then I expect a major pump in alts soon. If BTC halves then alts will probably also halve in the medium term. In this range however, looking pretty good.

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July 09, 2019, 03:56:29 AM
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Both scenarios are still valid:

1. Waves 5 to either tag $0.9 or drop to $0.5 or less, and then move up after one year or more
2. Straight to $7 from here and then basically no reversal until $68

Market is very choppy in Waves right now, so it can be a shake out event before parabolic rally, or it can be a failure to retain price interval in preparation for wave 5, it is yet unknown.

Because the price is already hovering in a range of $1.9, it is hard to confirm these scenarios before it moved +50% or dropped 40%. As is known, this can happen in a few hours, so prediction models are not possible especially on the downside.

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July 13, 2019, 06:11:47 PM
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Both scenarios are still valid:

1. Waves 5 to either tag $0.9 or drop to $0.5 or less, and then move up after one year or more
2. Straight to $7 from here and then basically no reversal until $68

Market is very choppy in Waves right now, so it can be a shake out event before parabolic rally, or it can be a failure to retain price interval in preparation for wave 5, it is yet unknown.

Because the price is already hovering in a range of $1.9, it is hard to confirm these scenarios before it moved +50% or dropped 40%. As is known, this can happen in a few hours, so prediction models are not possible especially on the downside.

My bet is at least 3-4 dollars this year. At the end of 2019 Waves launched the project Waves Lab, designed to develop promising startups, providing them with all kinds of assistance. The company continues to consider applications of promising startups. It is planned to add a blockchain messenger. Developers will integrate their digital assets into the blockchain. Waves will continue to gain. The coin is still undervalued.
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July 20, 2019, 12:27:43 AM
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I believe that there is a major pump incoming within 2 weeks and that this will be the start of a 3 year bullrun that will end between $68-125 in stage 1 with a correction back to 30 or 10 dollars followed by a blow out to $175-300 before spring next year.

If wave 5 first, towards $0.25-7, then atleast Marquise $Museum will pump 1000% or more instead because market float is only worth a few hundred dollars in that scenario. And $MM is injecting $1000 or more every month in dedicated funds specifically for market making in this coin. Don't buy $MM if you don't know what you're buying into, it's only fully usable in $5000 investments or greater.

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