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May 06, 2019, 05:33:56 AM
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Link: https://www.coinmarketfeed.com/bitcoin-news/report-google-search-volume-and-tweets-responsible-for-bitcoin-price-surge

In a recent research on Google trends and Twitter, it has been found out that the number of tweets and their corresponding sentiments can influence prices. The research ultimately reflects that Bitcoin price trends reflect crowd psychology.

Per the research, 21 million bots on Twitter, posted information about spam, advertisements, prices, etc. Moreover, the researchers have found out that Twitter sentiment is positive in nature even in the wake of falling prices.

However, despite their findings researchers have incorporated sentiment analysis using different techniques.

Researchers have used open source VADER (Valence Aware Dictionary and Sentiment Reasoner) for analyzing tweet data. Furthermore, tweet data dating back to 2014 using the site bitinfocharts.com. Google trends data (SVI) was also taken into account.
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May 06, 2019, 05:39:20 AM
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Fancy name for the algorithm, this VADER tech,,, sometimes I think people just want to make these things up!

I have to say though,,, I think that Google has a hard time to distinguish the actual sentiments however, because I keep seeing how the trends go up and down, when I know that the awareness of the general public is going in a different direction.

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May 06, 2019, 07:26:17 AM
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Fancy name for the algorithm, this VADER tech,,, sometimes I think people just want to make these things up!

I have to say though,,, I think that Google has a hard time to distinguish the actual sentiments however, because I keep seeing how the trends go up and down, when I know that the awareness of the general public is going in a different direction.
In my opinion, Google gets it right majority of the time thanks to their intelligent services. It does make sense that search volume and tweets go a long way in helping the prices of BTC and altcoins surge or drop in value.

For example, Elon Musk tweeted ETH which led to a surge in its value immediately.

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May 06, 2019, 08:00:49 AM
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Search volume its not affected to bitcoin price bro, if volume going high volume its mean many people is wait and see about bitcoin price after few weeks going up.

Stop connected something on search or other media with bitcoin price Smiley

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May 06, 2019, 09:05:43 AM
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Search volume its not affected to bitcoin price bro, if volume going high volume its mean many people is wait and see about bitcoin price after few weeks going up.

Stop connected something on search or other media with bitcoin price Smiley

Well, most people run into google and twitter whenever they look up for current events and news about cryptocurrency, which may directly or indirectly affect the market demand of cryptocurrency. Not to mention, crypto influencers and enthusiasts use social media platforms and online resourcess such as facebook, twitter, youtube, etc. which can also affect the market.

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May 06, 2019, 11:19:59 AM
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Search volume its not affected to bitcoin price bro, if volume going high volume its mean many people is wait and see about bitcoin price after few weeks going up.

Stop connected something on search or other media with bitcoin price Smiley

Well, most people run into google and twitter whenever they look up for current events and news about cryptocurrency, which may directly or indirectly affect the market demand of cryptocurrency. Not to mention, crypto influencers and enthusiasts use social media platforms and online resourcess such as facebook, twitter, youtube, etc. which can also affect the market.

Somehow there is really a connection here. And I think this had been studied well during the bull run of 2017. Whenever there is a sharp increase of searches and mentions, there is a big possibility that Bitcoin or any crypto for that matter can be going up in price. And whenever the prices of a crypto is going up, there is also a possibility that people online can be talking about. So it can be a vice-versa kind of thing.
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May 06, 2019, 11:23:01 AM
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I doubt it is the reason behind the recent hype. If it was not organic, bitcoin would have faced dump to the previous stage. But now, it seems to be stable and little chance of being dumped.

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May 06, 2019, 02:00:04 PM
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Price movements upwards are followed by a spike in interest. Not the other way around. Has been observed many times.
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May 06, 2019, 02:00:22 PM
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Link: https://www.coinmarketfeed.com/bitcoin-news/report-google-search-volume-and-tweets-responsible-for-bitcoin-price-surge

In a recent research on Google trends and Twitter, it has been found out that the number of tweets and their corresponding sentiments can influence prices. The research ultimately reflects that Bitcoin price trends reflect crowd psychology.

Per the research, 21 million bots on Twitter, posted information about spam, advertisements, prices, etc. Moreover, the researchers have found out that Twitter sentiment is positive in nature even in the wake of falling prices.

However, despite their findings researchers have incorporated sentiment analysis using different techniques.

Researchers have used open source VADER (Valence Aware Dictionary and Sentiment Reasoner) for analyzing tweet data. Furthermore, tweet data dating back to 2014 using the site bitinfocharts.com. Google trends data (SVI) was also taken into account.

I highly doubt any such fancy things are playing behind the scene here! Sentiment analysis is not a very old technique and it is still taking shape with the help of AI. I am sure few percentage of crypto population may have been influenced by the positive tweets or google search trends, but the larger population is way beyond its reach!

If demand is not increasing in the ground, the price can't really increase and hold its ground! Sentiment is definitely a parameter but not very valid while comes to ground reality. It just gives a moral boost and nothing else!

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May 06, 2019, 02:02:49 PM
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I don't know if there's some correlation about search volume and price increase. I mean its pretty obvious that when the price is going up, a lot of casuals are looking for bitcoin at least crypto in general.

But it doesn't mean that they will immediately jump on the bandwagon and buy bitcoin. Just normal though, when there is hype more people are going to search any news about it.
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May 06, 2019, 02:13:07 PM
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The correlation here may not be causative but rather representative. Either way, the more people looking to learn about Bitcoin, the better.

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May 06, 2019, 02:29:58 PM
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Real media news and good marketing impact the Bitcoin price.

I sincerely doubt Tweets from bots are giving Bitcoin the rightful attention it deserves to grow.
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May 06, 2019, 03:33:22 PM
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You know, the way I see it, Twitter's all about deluded people just vomiting their spew constantly. Bull or bear doesn't actually change their sentiment, it only affects the frequency with which they spew their sentiment, so I think there's a lot more weight to frequency of mentions on social media correlating to interest, then there is sentiment.

Add to the fact that Google's and other social media algorithm don't seem to understand the nuance of cynicism (I recall a lot of false positives for sentiment because it's based purely on keywords) and we don't know yet the accuracy.

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May 06, 2019, 03:40:06 PM
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In a recent research on Google trends and Twitter, it has been found out that the number of tweets and their corresponding sentiments can influence prices. The research ultimately reflects that Bitcoin price trends reflect crowd psychology.

i don't know about Twitter by based on what i have seen in the past 5 years google trends is not something that affects bitcoin price but it is the other way around meaning when price rises more people find out about it so more people search and the "trend" grows.

as for twitter, like any other social media it can "spread the word" but i wouldn't go as far as saying it is affecting the price. bitcoin is not a small market to be affected by some spam on twitter. this "research" is making the common mistake of confusing cause and effect.

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May 06, 2019, 03:47:33 PM
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Tweets and social media appearances may have helped, but I don't think those alone is the only thing responsible for the surge in price. Shilling for bitcoin has always been an effective way to bring the price up, especially if the one doing it is a prominent figure in the world. There are also other factors to look into and not just tweets and search trends, like order books and actual market conditions that seemed to have more control in price than searches alone.

Personally, I believe that price surge somewhat pulls search trends upward, and also Twitter tweets as well, but times may have changed and the latter influences the former instead of it going the other way around.
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No sense to me because if it was so easy then it's easy to create 500 bots per day, daily posting about BTC all day long. 500x30=15k bots monthly 180k per year and just for 1 person. BTC's price should moon in a matter of seconds so.
What the Google search volume has to do with it? How it can influence the value? So they found 21 million bots on Twitter, it is a sign from Satoshi prophecy and the 21 million bitcoins!

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May 06, 2019, 03:56:39 PM
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It's too shallow if we'll all think that the reason of the price changes is social media, though we can't deny the fact that every controversy and news being posted on social media has an impact and it influences every decision making regarding cryptocurrency. People always check what's on the trend before pursuing transactions with crypto. I guess it's something that people should watch over because some social media news are just confusing and deceiving sometimes.
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Can you just stop and think for a moment that price movements are already happening that's why it's creating a movement in Google and Twitter search results. That's why it's being talk about in these websites as the movement already begun. Don't believe on every news you see because most of them are just created to get traffic revenue from their viewers, most of them don't even makes sense at all since all they create are just recycled from the web.

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May 06, 2019, 04:53:00 PM
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I don't know if there's some correlation about search volume and price increase. I mean its pretty obvious that when the price is going up, a lot of casuals are looking for bitcoin at least crypto in general.

But it doesn't mean that they will immediately jump on the bandwagon and buy bitcoin. Just normal though, when there is hype more people are going to search any news about it.
I think the same way and it actually makes sense to me. Any person would be interested to know what bitcoin is and what is the reason behind the spike of it's price.
At any time if bitcoin is in high price it would grab others' attention resulting in high search volume. It has happened for the most of the bull runs in the crypto history.

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May 06, 2019, 09:58:30 PM
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I really do not think so, because the Strong Hands or Whales, do not make their movements in the market for the amount of Tweets or publications, I think the market movements have been for massive purchases that have nothing to do with it, that is to say, an Investor or Speculator will not decide to raise the price of an action or currency for information that occurs in social networks, because something that has not taught the great speculators in the market since the 1800s from Wyckoff and Livermore is that they are not aware of the news, they simply analyze the market and look for the best opportunities to move the market.

I do not doubt that social networks help, because if that were the way bitcoin was worth about $ 50k a few months ago, the market moves for Institutional Money, Market Makers and all those who participate daily in the market being turn some investors.

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