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March 19, 2014, 11:14:34 PM
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It's bait and switch hoping that no one reads the fine print in 25. Then you send out shills posting 10 and you don't correct it.

No, it really isn't. We don't have any shills, the suggestion that we do is laughable. You are more than welcome to read our terms and conditions and FAQ for yourself. Note that while we reserve the right to change our T&C as needed, we typically do not retroactively apply new terms to old players or their deposits, which is why you hear different people saying different rollover figures here.

I will paste the relevant terms below for your convenience:

* Regarding 125% Deposit Bonus for casino and sportsbook, player needs to purchase a minimum of 20 in the account currency and wager 25 times the amount of deposit and bonus before making any withdrawals.

Excluded Games:
Your bonus can be used with all games, but each game type has a contributory percentage that it makes to the wagering requirements before withdrawals are allowed.

The contributing percentages of games towards the wagering requirements are as follows:
100% on all slot games
25% on Sports betting
5% on all other games.

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March 19, 2014, 11:24:18 PM
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It's bait and switch hoping that no one reads the fine print in 25. Then you send out shills posting 10 and you don't correct it.

No, it really isn't. We don't have any shills, the suggestion that we do is laughable. You are more than welcome to read our terms and conditions and FAQ for yourself. Note that while we reserve the right to change our T&C as needed, we typically do not retroactively apply new terms to old players or their deposits, which is why you hear different people saying different rollover figures here.

I will paste the relevant terms below for your convenience:

* Regarding 125% Deposit Bonus for casino and sportsbook, player needs to purchase a minimum of 20 in the account currency and wager 25 times the amount of deposit and bonus before making any withdrawals.

Excluded Games:
Your bonus can be used with all games, but each game type has a contributory percentage that it makes to the wagering requirements before withdrawals are allowed.

The contributing percentages of games towards the wagering requirements are as follows:
100% on all slot games
25% on Sports betting
5% on all other games.

Why didn't you say something when the guy said 10 times? It's buyer beware go over the rules with a magnifying glass. Don't believe the shills.
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March 19, 2014, 11:27:56 PM
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Why didn't you say something when the guy said 10 times? It's buyer beware go over the rules with a magnifying glass. Don't believe the shills.

LOL @ Shills. You're insane.

EVERYONE should read terms and conditions of any site. Period. That's the bottom line here. I don't have time to come on here, check every single post, then make corrections as necessary. If I get a notification that the thread has been updated and needs a response, I typically scroll to the last post, sometimes read the last 2-3 if I have time.

This is not our support forum. If you have questions, you should email support@coinbet.cc


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March 19, 2014, 11:41:34 PM
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Can anyone actually open any games?  NBA, NCAAB, MLB -- whenever i click on a game i get redirected to home page.

Working very fine here.
Maybe try use it from another browser? Chrome is doin OK with it.
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March 20, 2014, 01:10:41 AM
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Coinbet- I apololgize for sticking my nose in your thread but there is one nice feature that hasn't been mentioned. Coinbet has the lowest hold of all the bitcoin books. After that it is NitrogenSports. Coinbet is a little over -106 and Nitrogen -107. I really should talk decimals and percentages but that confuses us Americans.  Grin

Bitbook was -105, then went higher and went under. Casinobitcoin went from -107 to -109. If you are going to gamble any type of volume the hold outweighs the bonus in general unless the bonuses are insane. Those are the StakeBTC's of the world and don't last long.

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March 20, 2014, 01:19:18 AM
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Coinbet- I apololgize for sticking my nose in your thread but there is one nice feature that hasn't been mentioned. Coinbet has the lowest hold of all the bitcoin books. After that it is NitrogenSports. Coinbet is a little over -106 and Nitrogen -107. I really should talk decimals and percentages but that confuses us Americans.  Grin

Bitbook was -105, then went higher and went under. Casinobitcoin went from -107 to -109.

No problem, and thanks, we appreciate the support Smiley

I'll be the first to say that we have run into bumps in the road. Hell, you're the one who told us to tighten up our bonuses, and why. Not to mention the 100's of folks who tried to scam us, abuse our system, hack our site, find loopholes, etc. Our goal is to prove we are here for the long haul and are capitalized accordingly. Yes, that means sometimes we have to revisit certain offerings and terms and make changes, but we've ALWAYS made every effort, even bending over backwards at times, to be fair, and give our players the benefit of the doubt even when it wasn't deserved.

We don't plan on going anywhere... We will continue to offer quick customer support, one on one attention to our players, an awesome VIP program, large bonuses (for those who want them), and continue improving our games, betting options, and everything else we possibly can as we go along.

Thanks again!

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March 22, 2014, 06:08:42 AM
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Can anyone direct me to where I can view Coinbet and Nitrogen gaming licenses?  I'm interested in verifying these licenses, owner names, legalities. I never received answers to any of my questions in e-mails, nor do I see anything on this forum page that would indicate anything other than 'promises of things to come in the future' or 'we should have this in 48-72 hrs'.  I am tired of these companies not answering questions directly and  appropriately, but instead with obvious vague and 'delaying' tactics/promises.  I thank anyone, especially Coinbet.cc, if they can provide me with how to proceed in personally viewing all legal licenses and information associated with them.

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March 22, 2014, 06:16:36 AM
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Can anyone direct me to where I can view Coinbet and Nitrogen gaming licenses?  I'm interested in verifying these licenses, owner names, legalities. I never received answers to any of my questions in e-mails, nor do I see anything on this forum page that would indicate anything other than 'promises of things to come in the future' or 'we should have this in 48-72 hrs'.  I am tired of these companies not answering questions directly and  appropriately, but instead with obvious vague and ambiguous promises.  I thank anyone, especially Coinbet.cc, if they can provide me with how to proceed in personally viewing all legal licenses and information associated with them.

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golfpro-There are no gaming licenses in Costa Rica for sports books. Most of the owners of the bitcoin books stay anonymous. Both BTCSportmatch and Anonibet opened in 2011 and both are anonymous. Anonibet is the best of all the Bitcoin books. Nitrogen and Coinbet are solid.

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March 22, 2014, 06:31:47 AM
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Just a couple questions.


Peeps Place - I've seen you say Coinbet is 'solid' in a few forum threads.  What gives you the credibility to say this?  Have you cashed out?  Have friends cashed out?  Are you aware that myself and other people are having trouble with this site .. or do you choose to ignore this?


Also, let's revisit a post from Coinbet in another thread:

"You're seriously an idiot and it's getting old. I told you numerous times we were licensed in Costa Rica. I never said we have a GAMBLING license in Costa Rica. Costa Rica does not issue gambling licenses, they issue data processing licenses (you're 100% incorrect when you say they do not).

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You're intentionally trying to mislead our customers and it's not going to work.

As I've said before, you're an idiot and have no idea what you're talking about.

Quit wasting my time and go play in traffic or something, Alan."



A) This looks like they do indeed have a license of some kind. I would like to see said gaming license.

B) It also looks like they aren't exactly the most professional of companies when their public rep department is telling people to "go play in traffic".  I am the owner of a civil engineering company and I can assure you, regardless of what a client/customer says..calling them an 'idiot' or telling them to 'playin traffic' is pretty much the WRONG approach.  In light of this, Peep's Place, are you still on record as calling this company 'solid'?   
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March 22, 2014, 07:01:04 AM
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From Peep's Place own thread:


"A" rated books
Anonibet A
Betcoinsports A-

"B"rated books
Casinobitco.in B
Cloudbet B 
CoinBet B
DirectBet
NitrogenSports B
SBObitcoin B-

"C" rated books
Bitbm C

"D" rated books
BTCSportsmatch
Jetwin
Bitcoinlivebets D-

"F" rated books
Bitcoinsport
Bitsaloon
StakeBTC
BitBook (closed)



Surely you must have done some research on these sites to be able to offer reviews for each one.  Are you personally willing to put your own reputation on the line in saying Coinbet pays out to its customers and treats them fairly?  Did your research miss that they had a data processing license even when they posted in a thread awhile ago?  Please tell me your credentials, sir, so I can feel better about everything.  Because as it stands, I feel like I'm getting the runaround. And that sinking pit in your stomach telling you something is wrong...yeah, it's not going away.   I was born at night, that's true.  But it wasn't last night.
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March 22, 2014, 07:42:18 AM
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Just a couple questions.


Peeps Place - I've seen you say Coinbet is 'solid' in a few forum threads.  What gives you the credibility to say this?  Have you cashed out?  Have friends cashed out?  Are you aware that myself and other people are having trouble with this site .. or do you choose to ignore this?


Also, let's revisit a post from Coinbet in another thread:

"You're seriously an idiot and it's getting old. I told you numerous times we were licensed in Costa Rica. I never said we have a GAMBLING license in Costa Rica. Costa Rica does not issue gambling licenses, they issue data processing licenses (you're 100% incorrect when you say they do not).

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You're intentionally trying to mislead our customers and it's not going to work.

As I've said before, you're an idiot and have no idea what you're talking about.

Quit wasting my time and go play in traffic or something, Alan."



A) This looks like they do indeed have a license of some kind. I would like to see said gaming license.

B) It also looks like they aren't exactly the most professional of companies when their public rep department is telling people to "go play in traffic".  I am the owner of a civil engineering company and I can assure you, regardless of what a client/customer says..calling them an 'idiot' or telling them to 'playin traffic' is pretty much the WRONG approach.  In light of this, Peep's Place, are you still on record as calling this company 'solid'?   

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March 22, 2014, 07:46:43 AM
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Firstly about CoinBet.

CoinBet is a quite misleading book, which does not deserve rate B.

CoinBet has a terrible loading time. It seems that they do not have any CEO specialist in their team or if they do, these specialists are not competent at all.

CoinBet has a very limited bet offer. At this point they mislead us when hiding their poor bet offer by showing, for example, +220 next to the betting lines, as if they provide additional 220 bets. Actually they show us the number of different outcomes – 1X2 etc. With normal bookmakers this number corresponds to the side bets of the same event. 

Despite having slogan “Bet Safely, Bet Securely, Bet Anonymously”, the option “Anonymous mode” does not work, which is again misleading.

CoinBet deceives us, directly or indirectly, by presenting a lot of Payment systems in the footnote, while actually there is only one available – Bitcoin.

In their FAQ is stated “CoinBet holds its gaming licenses and permits in Costa Rica.” They again failed in formulation. Actually, Costa Rica does not issue any gambling license. Data processing license is the only thing you can get from Costa Rica, which allows you to connect different Payment systems. All Costa Rican companies are self-regulated. And in case of dispute arises user cannot rely on the help of any regulatory body.

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March 22, 2014, 08:45:35 AM
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Coin bet please take a look at my personal message Smiley
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March 22, 2014, 12:07:17 PM
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The expiration times for your tennis matches are all screwed up. All of the matches for today have already expired and are no longer available. The only matches available to wager on don't even occur until tomorrow. Very lame.
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March 22, 2014, 02:26:33 PM
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From Peep's Place own thread:


"A" rated books
Anonibet A
Betcoinsports A-

"B"rated books
Casinobitco.in B
Cloudbet B  
CoinBet B
DirectBet
NitrogenSports B
SBObitcoin B-

"C" rated books
Bitbm C

"D" rated books
BTCSportsmatch
Jetwin
Bitcoinlivebets D-

"F" rated books
Bitcoinsport
Bitsaloon
StakeBTC
BitBook (closed)



Surely you must have done some research on these sites to be able to offer reviews for each one.  Are you personally willing to put your own reputation on the line in saying Coinbet pays out to its customers and treats them fairly?  Did your research miss that they had a data processing license even when they posted in a thread awhile ago?  Please tell me your credentials, sir, so I can feel better about everything.  Because as it stands, I feel like I'm getting the runaround. And that sinking pit in your stomach telling you something is wrong...yeah, it's not going away.   I was born at night, that's true.  But it wasn't last night.

I'm not saying that my opinion is better than anyone else and my experience is only that of one person. Poster experience and feedback play the biggest part of the ratings. I read the threads of each book and have played at all of the bitcoin sports books rated "D" or higher.  

My background is that I started playing with offshore sports books in 2002. I'd guess 95% are located in Costa Rica and the other 5% in Curacao or Panama. I've owned two websites that dealt solely with cash post up sports books. I sold because of the US laws.

With Coinbet, I've taken many withdrawals. At first I was slow paid and then they became immediate after they got the kinks out. I've had  telephone conversations with Coinbet, many email and PM correspondences. I feel as though they are the book that is most receptive to poster suggestion and input. I originally opened up Coinbet as a "C". Coinbet got very strong poster support and they were moved up to a "B".

If something is going on with coinbet, please share. We need input from all. I will contact them if anyone has concerns. Thanks

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March 22, 2014, 02:29:05 PM
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Coinbet,

Please email me my updated rollover requirements. It's been 4 days and 6 emails.
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March 22, 2014, 02:44:12 PM
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I have really liked what Coinbet is doing. Their interface and offerings are great. Please post recent positive and negative experiences with Coinbet. It helps the community as a whole and the ratings with reflect this feed back.

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March 22, 2014, 02:55:07 PM
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People cant really post anything because coinbet threatens to take their accounts if they do...
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March 22, 2014, 03:37:15 PM
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Can anyone direct me to where I can view Coinbet and Nitrogen gaming licenses?  I'm interested in verifying these licenses, owner names, legalities. I never received answers to any of my questions in e-mails, nor do I see anything on this forum page that would indicate anything other than 'promises of things to come in the future' or 'we should have this in 48-72 hrs'.  I am tired of these companies not answering questions directly and  appropriately, but instead with obvious vague and 'delaying' tactics/promises.  I thank anyone, especially Coinbet.cc, if they can provide me with how to proceed in personally viewing all legal licenses and information associated with them.

Regards.

We will NEVER post such information publicly, period, for obvious reasons. If you don't like that you are free to not play on our website. Also, we never told you we would send you our license in 48-72hrs, so not sure where you're going with that. We have no obligation to show you anything related to ownership, licensing, etc. and, like I said, if you don't like it, go play elsewhere. We really don't mind.

B) It also looks like they aren't exactly the most professional of companies when their public rep department is telling people to "go play in traffic".  I am the owner of a civil engineering company and I can assure you, regardless of what a client/customer says..calling them an 'idiot' or telling them to 'playin traffic' is pretty much the WRONG approach.  In light of this, Peep's Place, are you still on record as calling this company 'solid'?  

The person I was replying to was the fake nick of Alan Karre, Jr, the former owner of BitcoinCasinoPro who stole several thousand dollars from us in exchange for advertising he never provided, then tried to extort 12 BTC from us in exchange for writing a good review (he said we had two choices, pay him and he'd write a good one, or don't pay him and he'd write a bad one). Once we exposed him for the scammer and extortionist that he is, he created fake nicks (the writing style is transparent) and bashed us in every thread possible, until we exposed him again and he crawled back under his rock and sold his website.

If you have had any problems on our website, or there's something we need to address, please email support@coinbet.cc so we can do so immediately. As far as I'm aware though, we don't.

People cant really post anything because coinbet threatens to take their accounts if they do...

Not even close. CoinBet has bent over backwards for you despite your multiple terms of service violations and we're getting a bit tired of it. Now you go and say something like that, ANOTHER violation of our terms? Where do you think this is going? What do you think happens when you violate terms of service so many times? I'll let you do the math.

The expiration times for your tennis matches are all screwed up. All of the matches for today have already expired and are no longer available. The only matches available to wager on don't even occur until tomorrow. Very lame.

Strange, I'll have tech support look into this immediately and get it fixed. Thanks for the heads up.

Coin bet please take a look at my personal message Smiley

Please do not post about signatures in here, as I already asked before: We purchase signatures, as we determine one to be valuable, and we pay for a specific period of time upfront. Once this time is up, you are free to send us info on your posting history and request that we renew it, but we are under no obligation to renew it and may choose not to renew it if we feel the value of your account or your post history was not worth the cost. If this occurs, please do not pester us about it or post in our threads. If you don't receive a reply, or we tell you we are no longer interested in your signature space, you are free to remove it or change to someone else. Some people who have claimed we owe them money for signature space are beyond ridiculous - we paid for a specific period of time upfront. We have to focus on pressing issues, like customer service, tech support, and supporting our players, so if you don't get a reply about your sig, just remove it or you can feel free to wait for us to get back to you as time allows, when we are not busy with other things.

Thanks

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March 22, 2014, 03:54:07 PM
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Multiple violations?  Unless winning is a violation I've done nothing wrong.  However, after asking for my remaining rollover requirements via email 5x and now here 2x I have yet to get an updated number from you guys.  My silence on how I've been treated will only last so long.  People here are chomping at the bit to get a legitimate review and all you've done is put me off.

I've been more than patient over the past month but I'm getting very close to losing it.  People's tolerances in general will only last and stretch so far.
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