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May 06, 2019, 12:18:19 PM
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hi guys do u think XVG is scam ?
a few months ago XVG price was 220 sat
and now 120 sat and i guess it can fall more
a lot of investors bought at +200 sat and they
are in big lost now u think devs are selling
their coins ?
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May 06, 2019, 12:29:19 PM
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I think the XVF is not scam in fact is legit and its good project can also tell that longterm and potentially these altcoins know why the price of xvg has fallen is because of its impact on bitcoin price and we know that when the price of bitcoin falls somewhat, the price of altcoins falls somewhat and another reason for the fall of the price of the xvg is because of pannic selling then it also affects the price of xvg then the price of the xvg is in the 50s and now the price is so high that luck prices are cheap and hold up so far as they become profitable.
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May 06, 2019, 12:42:05 PM
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XVG has very low value and John Mcafee shilled it and it pumped hard. In my opinion, it is the same shit token, it was back then. It doesn't offer anything.

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May 06, 2019, 12:45:16 PM
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This coin was the one that partnered with pornhub correct? Not following this coin but you may be interested to see this article.

https://captainaltcoin.com/verge-xvg-team-accused-of-being-frauds/

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May 06, 2019, 01:00:10 PM
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I think the XVF is not scam in fact is legit and its good project can also tell that longterm and potentially these altcoins know why the price of xvg has fallen is because of its impact on bitcoin price and we know that when the price of bitcoin falls somewhat, the price of altcoins falls somewhat and another reason for the fall of the price of the xvg is because of pannic selling then it also affects the price of xvg then the price of the xvg is in the 50s and now the price is so high that luck prices are cheap and hold up so far as they become profitable.

Its XVG not XVF some kind of typo error dude basically I dont considered XVG as a scam since its listed in some big exchange site in the market but the one thing that I hate XVG when they announce in their AMA the partnership to  Pornhub this is not a big partnership that everyone want to hear haha.

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May 06, 2019, 01:02:50 PM
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Your topic is quite funny xvg is not a scam coin,  it's just that the way the market is going that's why,  we are still in bearish season so the market has not stabilized,  xvg ain't scam bro

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May 06, 2019, 01:18:57 PM
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I can't say it is a scam because I don't really follow their development. But, I can say that the real value of this token is reflected by the current price. This token has ever been pumped, everyone joined they hype and now this token back to where should it be. A value of token should come along with the development.

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May 06, 2019, 01:33:55 PM
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XVG has been around for quite sometime now and even made a lot people millionaires and Never has it been pronounced scam. Unfortunately, just like most coins, the continuous downward trend in the market has led to it being labeled as a scam, I still think it has a lot of potentials to recover and do another upward trend.
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May 06, 2019, 01:41:26 PM
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hi guys do u think XVG is scam ?
a few months ago XVG price was 220 sat
and now 120 sat and i guess it can fall more
a lot of investors bought at +200 sat and they
are in big lost now u think devs are selling
their coins ?
All coins can drop in value like bitcoin, no coin is excluded to this, and the coin dropping in value doesn't mean it's scam, developers have the rights to sell their own coin because they own it, and mostly developers vest their coins for a year or two.
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May 06, 2019, 01:48:00 PM
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hi guys do u think XVG is scam ?
a few months ago XVG price was 220 sat
and now 120 sat and i guess it can fall more
a lot of investors bought at +200 sat and they
are in big lost now u think devs are selling
their coins ?
Lol so every fallen cryptocurrency becomes scam?what about bitcoin that has almost $20000 value in December of 2017 now sits only at $5k is this also a scam?

I believed this is not a scam because the movement is normal,but what i  thinking ia this is another shitcoin and.pumped and dumped
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May 06, 2019, 01:58:43 PM
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XVG has very low value and John Mcafee shilled it and it pumped hard. In my opinion, it is the same shit token, it was back then. It doesn't offer anything.
Yes, John McAfee help the coin to surge back then but XVG is not a shit or scam coin. However, the reason why the coin don't have enough reputation with support was because of the concept behind it creation(it was purpose for anonymous fast transaction and it not a private company funded by pre-mined coins or ICO's) and we both know there's a lot of coins that offer the same services. Besides, it just like others smart contract/DAPP offer project trying to take the number spot from ETH.

Mind you, the community support Monero than the coin in subject and my advice to OP is to always check the concept of a project and the others project which are already in the field before investing.

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Dogecoin Dark is not a scam. Why not use the real Doge instead though? Much fast, much cheap!
Well XVG is cheap and fast too, but still if I remember correctly it was 51% attacked twice a year ago Undecided.
So why you should trust this chain when trust shouldn't supposed to be needed in the first place?
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May 06, 2019, 03:01:20 PM
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hi guys do u think XVG is scam ?
a few months ago XVG price was 220 sat
and now 120 sat and i guess it can fall more
a lot of investors bought at +200 sat and they
are in big lost now u think devs are selling
their coins ?

i don't know a lot about this coin
but, you said this coin is a scam because the price was decrease buddy ?
seems thats not a reasonable reason for me, i think you should give us a good reason, maybe a bad news coming to this coin, or the dev gone etc
so you can called this coin is scam my friend

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May 06, 2019, 03:06:08 PM
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If you care only about price then we can say that also Bitcoin is a scam because it lost 70% of its value.
Verge is very similiar to Tron because both CEOs are shilling their projects more than needed.

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May 06, 2019, 03:06:57 PM
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It's not a scam, it's an unfortunate victim of fomo and over reaching trading.

At the time when McAfee shilled it, prviacy coins were seen as the next "big thing"
There was a lot of talk of regulations and stuff so people thought that privacy coins would become more valuable.
So people were scrambling to find an undervalued privacy coin that would blow up.
McAfee tweeted that he had high hopes for it (this was during a very bullish crypto season)
Then, it all combined together and it did blow up.
It went so ridiculously high, check it's growth charts and history its insane.

But, ironically, that is what doomed it.
Nothing can maintain that kind of growth, not in stocks, not in real estate and definitely not in crypto.
It crashing is a result of the overall market crashing but also itself becoming a victim to supply and demand.

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May 06, 2019, 03:09:01 PM
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hi guys do u think XVG is scam ?
a few months ago XVG price was 220 sat
and now 120 sat and i guess it can fall more
a lot of investors bought at +200 sat and they
are in big lost now u think devs are selling
their coins ?

I don't know if it is a scam or not because I didn't follow it up and so I don't have any prove whichever way but, the fact that a token or coin has gone through hard times and depreciation of price is not avway to know a scam project since they are still existing and remember that many coins also dropped in price and are just picking up.

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May 06, 2019, 03:13:40 PM
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I think that after this coin entered into a partnership with some porn site - even then I was not interested in watching these projects. even then I realized that this is a project in which people don't need to invest their money

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May 06, 2019, 03:40:47 PM
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hi guys do u think XVG is scam ?
a few months ago XVG price was 220 sat
and now 120 sat and i guess it can fall more
a lot of investors bought at +200 sat and they
are in big lost now u think devs are selling
their coins ?
If we should judged all ico by price then virtually all altcoins are scam because almost all of them are trading below their all time high, the market condition has affected price of altcoins even the number 1 cryptocurrency bitcoin is not left out.

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May 06, 2019, 03:52:24 PM
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no its not scam.. it's just pump and dump coin  Grin after john mcafee announcement it was pump, but then again the price went down
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May 06, 2019, 04:36:36 PM
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I also don't think is a scam, and at that time when something happen with miners and a lot of coins was generated the coin drop a lot on price, but is not a scam.
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