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May 30, 2019, 11:06:08 AM |
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Anything of value is wanted by scammers and so they will naturally want to take it from you. You cannot blame an object for what humans choose to do to one another because of that object. This is exactly why they say that money is the root of all evil. So, next time when someone tells you that Crypto currencies are used for scams, please highlight the fact that most scams are still being done under the nose of the regulated financial industry. Wink
The number of scam happening in real-life which is not crypto related is still tremendous. As mentioned by OP, boiler scammers, ponzi scheme investment, and a lot more. We can't deny the fact that people who are saying that btc is just some kind of scam is actually those who don't want to take a risk and easily believing in some fake fuds. Scams and Fraudsters are everywhere so why do they need to emphasize that bitcoin is just a ponzi scheme where in fact they never know about blockchain technology. On the other hand, there is actually ponzi scheme happening in real life related to bitcoin. Some of them are using bitcoin to get some money with pyramid scheme. Here are some of it: - Xian Gaza expose btc pyramid scam- another pyramid schemeJust like the fiat money, scammers -- big and small, unknown and famous -- are using bitcoin as the "money" in their transactions. The problem is that since bitcoin is relatively new when a scam can broke out and there is the mention of bitcoin people who are still uneducated on bitcoin can easily conclude that the scam is "bitcoin scam" a term which is unfortunate and false. Anyway, as many marketing strategists would tell us even bad publicity is still a publicity. This is the reason why if there is an opportunity to explain to people around us the truth then we should take some time to explain to them why there is no such thing as bitcoin scam. It is like blaming violence on video games and blaming instant messangers for phedohiles. I still remember many years ago when one IM became very popular people were even blaming it instead of the parents or the kids that go talk to adults in adult rooms when they like 12.
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June 01, 2019, 08:45:56 AM |
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Scammers are everywhere and i feel sad for bitcoin, We can't deny the fact that some people used bitcoin for their own benefits. Bitcoin is for everyone and it depends to the people if they use it for good or bad. People are very dangerous and all we can do to all scammers over there is pray for their changes.
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June 01, 2019, 09:14:04 AM |
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Scammers are everywhere and i feel sad for bitcoin, We can't deny the fact that some people used bitcoin for their own benefits. Bitcoin is for everyone and it depends to the people if they use it for good or bad. People are very dangerous and all we can do to all scammers over there is pray for their changes.
Scammers are intelligent and many of them can even be considered as genius because of the many strategies they can employ just to fool people and have them open their wallets. Of course, scammers will always tools that are available to them and this is the reason why bitcoin is an easy target because once the transaction is done there it is already irreversible unlike with PayPal where one can possibly file a refund. Irreversibility then can be good or bad depending on the situation. I was one of the victims of scammers before so I understand how it felt to be part of the statistics.
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June 01, 2019, 11:08:12 AM |
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if so, there must be a strong legal umbrella. and simulations on how to avoid fraud. This forum has provided an interaction space for people to understand about crypto.
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We regularly read FUD articles in the popular media about Bitcoin being used in scams and that it is a perfect tool for scammers to hide their activities and the movie industry already labelled Bitcoin as the Internet of Money for the DarkNet. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I am currently watching a series called, " Undercover: Nailing the Fraudsters" and most of the scams featured there are done within a regulated environment. Boiler room scammers are not requesting payment in Crypto currencies to hide their activities, they get the victims to deposit money via their Bank accounts into their Bank accounts. <obviously created with fake ID documents> ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) In business, the term boiler room refers to an outbound call center selling questionable investments by telephone. It usually refers to a room where salesmen work using unfair, dishonest sales tactics, sometimes selling penny stocks, private placements or committing outright stock fraud. - Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiler_room_(business) So, next time when someone tells you that Crypto currencies are used for scams, please highlight the fact that most scams are still being done under the nose of the regulated financial industry. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) "Bitcoin is a scam" That is the usual motto of the people who does want to hear the word of cryptocurrency. Some of them are saying, stay away from that hyip. But that is only for ignorant people. Those who are saying that bitcoin is a scam are more ignorant. They did not know what is happening with their economy and based their inferences between what they saw in the news. Not knowing how this industry revolves and make a history. They judge bitcoin easily.
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June 01, 2019, 01:29:13 PM |
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Scammers are everywhere and i feel sad for bitcoin, We can't deny the fact that some people used bitcoin for their own benefits. Bitcoin is for everyone and it depends to the people if they use it for good or bad. People are very dangerous and all we can do to all scammers over there is pray for their changes.
You don't need to be sad about bitcoin because we all know that it did nothing wrong. Those people who are using bitcoin for their fraud and scamming are the ones you should pity. We are truly dangerous but we all know bitcoin is a decentralized crypto currency and we will never be able to control those people that want to use it for illegal purposes.
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June 01, 2019, 02:52:26 PM |
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Those people who is telling that bitcoin is uses for scam is the kind of people that don't have idea about Bitcoin,I agree that there is a lot of scenarios that scammers uses bitcoin to scam investors but not all the bitcoin use it in badways because there is also a good benefits that bitcoin can give us all we need to do is to be careful to avoid scam.
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June 01, 2019, 04:07:18 PM |
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It is just a ploy to discredit bitcoin, but we all know that any scams, thefts or illegal activity that is done using crypto can also be done using fiat. Fiat scams, theft and illegal activities are even more rampant than bitcoin.
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June 01, 2019, 04:33:54 PM |
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Yes, indeed people think of bitcoin for scammers, but that kind of thinking is because they don't understand crypto so they think negatively.
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June 01, 2019, 04:37:17 PM |
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You need to change the way they think about bitcoin. I agree that scammers use bitcoin to do illegal activities but in reality they only use bitcoin to do illegal activities and we cannot blame bitcoin for that. There are a lot of scams with other currencies as OP explained but not like bitcoin.
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It is like blaming violence on video games and blaming instant messangers for phedohiles. I still remember many years ago when one IM became very popular people were even blaming it instead of the parents or the kids that go talk to adults in adult rooms when they like 12.
You remind me something i watched not too long ago from the U.S. Department of Justice, a pedophile who convinced a children to do a lot of weird things in Clash of Clans, was the game guilty for it? - Is the gun guilty for the crime is was it the person who pulled the trigger?. Tools by themselves can't do much, most anything without human interference. People too lazy to come up with informed opinions will exist for a pretty long time i'm sure. But if you look carefully, there's an opportunity there, a really huge one. Among a lot of difference industries. We can just try to inform those who are willing to listen and think carefully, even some of those who speak without knowing might start thinking carefully in the future.
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June 01, 2019, 05:54:07 PM |
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Boycott such thread from this forum. After Craig, McAfee and etc continuous criticism are here in the Bitcointalk forum as well. We are here to keep the bitcoin healthy. That trolling single user also not allowed in this forum in that stand bitcoin is staying in the place. OP needs to trash off from the campaigns and all the places from here.
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June 01, 2019, 06:34:35 PM |
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Those people who are using bitcoin for their fraud and scamming are the ones you should pity.
As weird as it may sound to you, I don't even blame criminals for using Bitcoin. If you want Bitcoin to be open and free, you also have to accept that criminals use it, because it's useful and valuable. I'm sure that with time people will be less bothered by criminals using Bitcoin, but they have to accept first that Bitcoin doesn't need a central entity to be in charge and issue the coins. Average joes are used to have banks and governments be the central point of everything, and the decades of indoctrination in economics didn't really help either.
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Scam happens on a daily basis before cryptocurrency came to play, people were being scammed. The only difference in cryptocurrency scam is the fact that anonymity covers the scammer such person can't easily be traced unlike bank wire transfer.
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June 02, 2019, 11:47:12 AM |
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"Bitcoin is a scam"
That is the usual motto of the people who does want to hear the word of cryptocurrency. Some of them are saying, stay away from that hyip. But that is only for ignorant people. Those who are saying that bitcoin is a scam are more ignorant. They did not know what is happening with their economy and based their inferences between what they saw in the news. Not knowing how this industry revolves and make a history. They judge bitcoin easily.
These people do not want to listen to anyone who is telling them about cryptocurrencies as they think they are smarter. However, the activity of these guys really negatively affects the minds of people. They stop trusting BTC so much.
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June 02, 2019, 04:11:04 PM |
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Not all of us know the truth. Bitcoin can be used for crimes against terrorist acts. Usually they hide funding activities not through the bank, so they cannot be tracked and know who owns the wallet.
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June 02, 2019, 05:13:59 PM |
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Scammers are everywhere and i feel sad for bitcoin, We can't deny the fact that some people used bitcoin for their own benefits. Bitcoin is for everyone and it depends to the people if they use it for good or bad. People are very dangerous and all we can do to all scammers over there is pray for their changes.
Associating scam to bitcoin is hypocritical. Many people have been scammed using fiat. Nobody ain't gonna pray for any scammer to change. Most crypto scam are associated with greed and lack of factual knowledge about blockchain and cryptocurrencies.
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June 03, 2019, 04:15:58 PM |
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Bitcoin anonymity makes its very attractive to scammers, online thiefs, since they cannot be traced. Mostly illegal money is pushing Bitcoin from $1000 to $8000. Bitcoin has become a dangerous asset which is increasing crimes.
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June 04, 2019, 10:11:12 PM |
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Corruption and scam are everywhere and not only in Bitcoin. Imagine that there are so many financial institutions that scam people and run away with their money. Bitcoin is never a scam currency, all those spreading FUD should stop.
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June 06, 2019, 02:15:53 PM |
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Yup the last words from OP i agree, scammer always happen no matter on crypto or fiat. Everything connected with money, scammer will be there.
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