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November 17, 2011, 01:06:14 PM |
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Helllo folks, I'm OKPAY Company representative, will be glad to answer your questions. As you have noticed we have added BTC as one of the deposit options, it means that you can fund your account and spend your money pretty much everywhere (wire transfer, exchangers, online stores, debit card withdrawals, etc.)
We are not offering BTC withdrawal option but we are going to add it as well.
As per verification: you do not need to be verified to be able to fund your account with BTC. Unverified accounts have 300 EUR monthly limits. To get your account verify you need to provide a prood od ID and address.
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November 17, 2011, 01:11:30 PM Last edit: November 17, 2011, 01:26:55 PM by OKPAY |
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It is probably one of the many Russian money laundering outfits. Incidentally Slashdot had an article recently about that industry:
my guess is okpay is a front for the russian mob these guys look like mybitcoin 2.0 :/
HELLYEAH! Hello from Russian mob, we hunt for bears with our bare hands and laney maundering all day looong!
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November 17, 2011, 01:13:46 PM |
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OKPAY charges its users $35 to transfer funds to your bank account. OKPAY does not, it's an approx. correspondent bank fee, anyone familiar with international wire transfers know that
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November 17, 2011, 01:32:58 PM |
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I see that you ask for verified account for Ukash deposits also. Why? Are there easy chargebacks? Can you add the possibility to deposit them without verified account? You can add days/weeks/months limits to protect your self from dangerous chargebacks, but you will make very easy/fast to anyone to enter on the Bitcoin market.
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November 17, 2011, 02:05:56 PM |
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HostFat Certain e-currencies are available to verified clients only. We are protecting the system from abuse as well as preventing so called "laney moundering". Absolutely non-refundable currencies are available to unverified accounts.
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BTCurious
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November 17, 2011, 03:10:30 PM |
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This debit card thing, how does that work? Can I use that to pay for services on the internet that only accept creditcards? Or is that generally impossible?
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November 17, 2011, 03:53:56 PM |
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HostFat Certain e-currencies are available to verified clients only. We are protecting the system from abuse as well as preventing so called "laney moundering". Absolutely non-refundable currencies are available to unverified accounts.
Speaking of which, your requirement to have all documents translated to English for verification is stupid and unnecessary expensive. Both my ID card and my driver's license are official documents recognized in EU (ID card) and worldwide (driver's license) AS THEY ARE. They are NOT translatable. I used them to verify a lot of accounts to other services and never had a problem. Until I created a OKPAY account, that is. Very-very disappointing experience.
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November 17, 2011, 04:38:19 PM |
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Dear OK Company representative, I have a question for you:
is it possible to load funds to OKPay account via SEPA transfer?
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November 17, 2011, 05:33:58 PM Last edit: November 17, 2011, 05:48:39 PM by Vandroiy |
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This is very interesting.
I've been getting annoyed, Gox and Paxum just don't cut it currently. I just want a debit card I can charge with BTC and use in the Euro area!
On OKPAY, if I read this correctly, I get BTC->USD at market rate, then get charged 2% to a maximum of 15 USD for an ATM withdrawal, the USD conversion happening at daily rate? It remains to find out what the ATM owners charge, but that sounds like a decent offer! Are there any other hidden fees I have to watch out for?
Ah, whatever, time to make an account and just try this. Hell yeah.
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November 17, 2011, 06:11:58 PM |
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BTCurious yes, like a regular mastercard (ATM, online, stores, etc.) ovidiusoft unfortunately we can not accept docs in non-Latin language family without translation Jaagu absolutely, you can use sepa transfer Vandroiy you are right, no hidden charges actually. Did you check out the debit card fees page?
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freequant
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November 17, 2011, 06:47:12 PM |
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It is probably one of the many Russian money laundering outfits. Incidentally Slashdot had an article recently about that industry:
my guess is okpay is a front for the russian mob these guys look like mybitcoin 2.0 :/
HELLYEAH! Hello from Russian mob, we hunt for bears with our bare hands and laney maundering all day looong! Man, your PR isn't very professional..
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November 17, 2011, 07:13:18 PM |
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ovidiusoft unfortunately we can not accept docs in non-Latin language family without translation
If you would have bothered to check, you'd realize that Romanian is a language in the latin family. Even more: * my ID card includes Romanian/French/English descriptions for fields. For example: "Nume/Nom/Name". * my driver's license includes Romanian and English description for fields. For example: "Categorii de vehicule/Vehicle Categories". So you don't actually look at the documents which are sent to you for verification. Otherwise, I fail to understand how are my two documents unacceptable?!
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BitcoinBug
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November 17, 2011, 07:40:33 PM |
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Ahh, the hostility...
OKPAY, thanks for your services and being part of the community!
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November 17, 2011, 07:43:56 PM |
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HELLYEAH! Hello from Russian mob, we hunt for bears with our bare hands and laney maundering all day looong! Man, your PR isn't very professional.. On the other hand I think they are. Russians are straight shooters: the best defense is a strong offense. Don't expect passive-aggressive cotton-balling from them.
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November 17, 2011, 07:45:24 PM |
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HELLYEAH! Hello from Russian mob, we hunt for bears with our bare hands and laney maundering all day looong! Man, your PR isn't very professional.. On the other hand I think they are. Russians are straight shooters: the best defense is a strong offense. Don't expect passive-aggressive cotton-balling from them. +1, this kind of PR is way better than other BS PR I see from Western companies.
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November 17, 2011, 08:35:51 PM |
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HELLYEAH! Hello from Russian mob, we hunt for bears with our bare hands and laney maundering all day looong! Man, your PR isn't very professional.. On the other hand I think they are. Russians are straight shooters: the best defense is a strong offense. Don't expect passive-aggressive cotton-balling from them. +1, this kind of PR is way better than other BS PR I see from Western companies. +1 also. I am way more inclined to do biz with this outfit because of it. I would never trust them with more than I can afford to lose, but I would say the same thing of my BTC exchange, and of Wells Fargo.
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sig spam anywhere and self-moderated threads on the pol&soc board are for losers.
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November 17, 2011, 10:46:51 PM |
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This may sound stupid, but where is the Bitcoin depositing page? I can't find it in "add money".
Also, what's the deal with the separate ok-change website... kinda confusing.
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November 18, 2011, 07:28:49 AM |
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This may sound stupid, but where is the Bitcoin depositing page? I can't find it in "add money".
Also, what's the deal with the separate ok-change website... kinda confusing.
What seperate OKPAY website?
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November 18, 2011, 07:37:13 AM |
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This may sound stupid, but where is the Bitcoin depositing page? I can't find it in "add money".
Also, what's the deal with the separate ok-change website... kinda confusing.
What seperate OKPAY website? Sounds perfectly legitimate!
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November 18, 2011, 08:43:06 AM |
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ovidiusoft There should be no problems with Romanian, if you can PM me your email address registered with OKPAY - i will look into this. Vandroiy should be there, give me a few moment to check
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