Asking for Permission and Ideas

[cabalism13]

We are now planning to make website/webpage for the Charity Program, and for the reason it was started here, I thought of having bitcointalkcharity.org as its domain. Before we finalized it, I am asking for the permission of the admin whether I'm allowed to use the word bitcointalk or not.

If granted, we will just include that bitcointalk.org is not affiliated/connected to us and just tell why we picked the name.

Ideas are welcome, esecially the thoughts of the admin regarding this. We positively aim to make this project a success and bring some hope to some people.
Webpage Designers that is willing to help are always welcome, in fact I can't do this on my own. Just like when it started a month ago, Without the other's help, I'm nothing, and so as this project - it will be surely be gone by now, if there aren't some people who has a good heart and will to help other people.

Bitcointalk Charity Program

Regarding on the funds, it will be still be handled by bl4nkcode and we plan on putting some ads on the site to have it some extra added funds. So the Charity wont just be relying on some Donations.

I, cabalism13 will be responsible for all of the concerns of the public. Admins will be picked strongly for having a good profiles here, to lessen the doubts. And also activities will be decided through public discussions.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Put more description of the project. Not everyone is willing to click on links posted by other users. I have no problem with that but I came across some people having such concerns.
Sounds interesting project, good luck with that.

[DireWolfM14]

I would like more information as well, but I don't know if it's such a good idea to tie the name of the charity so closely to the forum.  If this is a project for a charity that accepts crypto, or meant to promote crypto in a specific region you might be limiting the charity's reach by aligning it with the forum.  

Please don't take this the wrong way; the forum could be a tremendous help in the initial stages, but in the long run it is just a forum.  By giving the charity a URL and an aligned name that conjures images of the goal I think you'll be better off in the future if the charity's reach can spread beyond the forum.  

Just my opinion, and it's worth exactly what you just paid for it.  

[Jet Cash]

I think it would be a mistake. It will be obvious that it isn't an official BT charity, and people will think that it is a scam, even if it isn't.

In my opinion it would be better to use a catchy phase such as "crypto for good".

[cabalism13]

If this is a project for a charity that accepts crypto,

Yes, and in the near future I would like to have this project its own bank account, so it can also accept fiat.

or meant to promote crypto in a specific region you might be limiting the charity's reach by aligning it with the forum.

Promote Crypto... Yes... But I can't really tell that there would be a specific Region or Country, for the fact that my aim is to help people who are in need. And for I know there would be some people here whose willing to make a Charity Activity for their place then I guess it would be good if we don't have a limit on places.

But the fact that I'm currently staying on the Philipines (one of the Poor Country), I can only achieve some activities here, but if luck stays within this project, we will consider to give donations on NUSKIN (the past pproject of DABS) so that people that are not within my reach can also be given a chance.

Please don't take this the wrong way; the forum could be a tremendous help in the initial stages, but in the long run it is just a forum.  By giving the charity a URL and an aligned name that conjures images of the goal I think you'll be better off in the future if the charity's reach can spread beyond the forum.  

Just my opinion, and it's worth exactly what you just paid for it.  

Dont worry, opinions are accepted for the sake of our success, besides this is not just ours, but also yours ( I know, that you know the feeling when other people appreciates your help), so basically this is a win-win for all of us.


Edit:

In my opinion it would be better to use a catchy phase such as "crypto for good".

We already considered that JC for we know we might get critism from the others, but still I would like to hear their thoughts about having bitcointalk on the Charity's domain.

Discussing that here would be fine, I think. For it is not really of topic, and it is for the betterment of this Charity Program.
This what I suggest for the domain:
www.bitcointalkcharity.org
www.crytpocharity.org
And I think, we should go for the .org because sooner or later this will become a large group.

Still open for Ideas. Please don't be shy

[LoyceV]

It's a bit more expensive to register, but did you know there's a .charity domain extension?

[cabalism13]

It's a bit more expensive to register, but did you know there's a .charity domain extension?

Nope, would you like to tell me more about it? I would like to hear it. Even though we will be receiving funds for the website, but still it would be more practical if we will have less expenses, so we can maintain it for a longer time.

Actually, I have a less bit knowledge about creating a webpage/website, I only used on creating those for my school activities, so no need for hosting and other features. I would be thankful if you can help us out. TIA.

[tyz]

Well, basically it is a good idea and you are allowed to use the name because BitcoinTalk is not a protected term. However I'd distance from calling it bitcointalkcharity, though. When I read the first line of your post I first thought it is a kind of official project of bitcointalk, what is not. So it can cause confusion.

Call it something like BitcoinUsersCharity.org instead.

[The Cryptovator]

Most likely you/someone registered this domain. Although sound is good, but I don't think admin will allow it. The domain name would misguide peoples. I am not sure what you mean by mention "project". It will be better if you add more details and what is your future plan. I don't think its necessary to bitcointalk with domain since its not affiliated with forum. You might choose few other good name.   

[hilariousetc]

Theymos commented on something like this recently:

so I take it that you give permission for people to use 'bitcointalk.org' name to make profit on merchs

Yes, just don't characterize it as "official".

But I don't think you should be using the name in something like this because it probably gives the wrong impression and that they're affiliated somehow. Why do you need bitcointalk in there specifically anyway?

Also, are you a registered charity? Where and how is the money going to be spent and who is responsible for deciding where it goes?

Things like this just seem really vague and ripe for abuse:

We aim to help those who're really in need of help, just like the poor ones residing and making a living in the streets, people who has severe medical cases (like cancer patients) and doesn't have enough money to support their needs, calamity victims and other things that may vary in these kind of situations. And as an addition to this, it will be also a way on introducing crypto to them, to help them and make them realize that crypto isn't a bad thing in which scammers has abused it before and left a very bad reputation about it.

Are you just going to send bitcoins to someone who claims they need some money for medical expenses? Do you have to know them personally? How will you verify worthy candidates and who gets final say on where the money goes or not? How open and transparent is all this going to be?

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

What ever you guys are planning you're free to proceed but just don't involve the forum. If you want to start a charity program, do that individually or as a group. Look for other alternative names that doesn't involve the forum in any manner before it send a wrong message to the general public resulting to people flooding the forum thinking it's a place to seek for financial assistance.

To be frank with you guys, I don't see this ending well. Every successful charity program has a sponsor and the donations are just bonuses but you guys will be relying on donations as main source of income and since control over money has a way of bringing the worst out of humans, it might result to disagreement between you guys and we (the community) won't want to be dragged into it. We already have scam accusations that involves member entrusted huge amount of fund to specific forum users and they either disappeared or tempered with the fund. What ever you guys are planning just take it off forum without involving Bitcointalk.org. That's my input on the matter.

[Thirdspace]

Discussing that here would be fine, I think. For it is not really of topic, and it is for the betterment of this Charity Program.
This what I suggest for the domain:
www.bitcointalkcharity.org
www.crytpocharity.org
And I think, we should go for the .org because sooner or later this will become a large group.

Still open for Ideas. Please don't be shy

I suppose hisako's suggestion was just a typo, crytpo? ... crypto
my initial suggestion was www.cryptochange.org or www.cryptochangecharity.org or www.cryptochange.charity
unfortunately it seems the first one has been taken, and for sale
the idea is to encourage people sending their small change amount as donation to your charity program
and you could use a motto of "your crypto change can change people lives"

[khaled0111]

It's a bit more expensive to register, but did you know there's a .charity domain extension?

It is not that expensive. It costs ~30$/year.

OP I think you should get a clear approval from theymos and Cøbra before registering your domain name if it is going to contain "bitcointalk".

If your plan is to incentivise crypto enthusiasts to donate, then think about the proposition of Jet Cash.

[cabalism13]

Why do you need bitcointalk in there specifically anyway?

Actually the Idea had started here in the first place,...
Well, its not yet registered, that's why I need some suggestions before we finalized it.

Also, are you a registered charity?

Not yet, but I'm considering it. For I know, there would be people here that will still help aside from us. So its better if we can be a legitimate charity.

Where and how is the money going to be spent and who is responsible for deciding where it goes?

For the third activity, we are still planning it for we dont have enough funds yet. We have many plans, but funds is getting in our way, that's why we're saving the donations for now.
Activities are being discussed here: t.me/FilipinoCryptoCom
I can't make a decision on my own, for I don't own the money. If there is a big funds, it can be divided so other activities can be funded too.
I'm confident that the funds will not be taken away by the bad guys here. And when it comes to other countries, maybe some other trusted users here can help us out, we can have a private conversation so we can get to know everyone whose willing to handle such activities like this.

Things like this just seem really vague and ripe for abuse:

Doubts can never be gone.and that's a fact. The only thing we can do about it, is bring them some proofs, anything that is necessary. And for as long as we're doing it right, issues and questions can be solved accordingly.

Are you just going to send bitcoins to someone who claims they need some money for medical expenses?

Yes. But it has a process. Just like what happened on legendster's mom. It has been vouched by certain users first, and I have received some confirmation from him later on.

Do you have to know them personally?

Yes. We have to. Whatever methods can be used will be used, just to make sure that it the funds will not be scammed. We have ways on finding informations, btw. Not just a simple. KYC. For it can also be cheated.

How will you verify worthy candidates and who gets final say on where the money goes or not?

We have ways on finding it, in terms of Medical needs we can simply confirm it through having a contact with the clinic/hospital/doctor. Precautions for cons are prepared. And the majority of votes will decide where will the funds goes to. And if someone really needs it so badly, we can consider making a partition. But not that big.

How open and transparent is all this going to be?

All transactions, donations, activities will be known for the public. I, cabalism13, clarence...will be responsible for this matter.

... Every successful charity program has a sponsor and the donations are just bonuses but you guys will be relying on donations as main source of income and since control over money has a way of bringing the worst out of humans, it might result to disagreement between you guys and we (the community) won't want to be dragged into it.

Yeah, you're quite right about that, this may not end well due of having low funds, but we will make sure that the funds will be all used for the sake of other people. And if there is even 1mBTC left, we will keep the site going until we can get enough funds again for the next activity.
Because of your opinion, I'm now thinking of finding a sponsor Politicians can be a good asset don't you think🤩? And with that we can get to introduce crypto
If some issues take place because of other countries, then I might consider having a limits by then. But not on helping other communities. As I have said, we can give some Donations to NUSKIN (Past Project of Dabs) for they have some projects on some countries like Africa and Vietnam.

We have many options. But we have Less Funds, so saving money is the only way to make this a success.

I suppose hisako's suggestion was just a typo, crytpo? ... crypto
my initial suggestion was www.cryptochange.org or www.cryptochangecharity.org or www.cryptochange.charity
unfortunately it seems the first one has been taken, and for sale
the idea is to encourage people sending their small change amount as donation to your charity program
and you could use a motto of "your crypto change can change people lives"

My bad, that's definitely a typo (hisako is my alt - refer to Reputation Section).
And I don't think changing the motto will still be considered to be changed, in fact all crypto is being backed by fiat.

It is not that expensive. It costs ~30$/year.

Yes. Actually, using namecheap,  it only cost 23$ per annum, SSL included. And a bit more USD, for other expenses. So it might take up to ~40$ per year.

If your plan is to incentivise crypto enthusiasts to donate, then think about the proposition of Jet Cash.

We might be,... Just by considering the suggestions of the others.

[nc50lc]

It is not that expensive. It costs ~30$/year.

Yes. Actually, using namecheap,  it only cost 23$ per annum, SSL included. And a bit more USD, for other expenses. So it might take up to ~40$ per year.

Yes but if you're seriously considering the name, you should register it right away ($12.98 for the domain) before it get parked since you've mentioned the domain name already.
It will be troublesome if someone registered it before getting an answer to this topic, you can just sell the domain if it happened that you're not free to use "bitcointalk" anyways.

[btcsmlcmnr]

In short, theymos actually does not give you or anyone permission to do this, and forum members don't support your ideas for sure.
The main reason is:
- There are so many phising sites, phising forum with prefix of their domain names are bitcointalk. We don't need to give scammers a perfect chance to start a new wave of phising sites with fake charity purposes. I meant, if you get permission from theymos to do this, or even when you will keep doing this without permission (with the site domain name like: cabalism13bitcointalk.charity, example), and your charity site get big success, big funds from community, I believe that we soon will see a new wave of x-, y-, z-bitcointalk.charity/.com/whatever) sites and they together will significantly destroy the reputation of official bitcointalk.org.
- Your idea, your charity community originated from the forum (You actually have a topic for charity in the forum for months, I knew it), it's good. So, there is no reason to stick your charity site with bitcointalk word, if you don't have 'shady' intention to get benefits from it (sorry, but I don't offend you, it is not perfect experession, and please focus on my main flow of ideas), you don't care to add bitcointalk to your site name.
You can create something like this: cabalism13.charity, or location.charity with location is the place of community you have plans to spend  most of your charity funds in the future; or cryptocharityforfillipinos.charity.
- Additionally, if you succeed with it, we will soon see a new wave of topics in Meta, on Charity Funds, Charity Sites

[jademaxsuy]

Well good luck in your project and do hope that it will be push through. Just do it for the poor or for the charity and for yourself. Usually, a project like this should be done with the team that are open with their Identities. Meaning, you should include in your website for the transparency by using block chains to erase the doubts of the donators and to get also the trust.

I have.known some.charities here in our place but they are not doing it on block chain so there is a high chance that excess or some money will be pocketed by the charity founders and some of its members.