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May 23, 2019, 12:49:36 PM
Last edit: May 23, 2019, 01:30:25 PM by roosbit
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Reasons why most people will plagiarize and get banned then ban appeal.
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Some other possible reasons for plagiarism, based on what I have read on the forum is :
  • language been a barrier, especially for non English speakers(I Wonder if local language boards get nuked or banned for this)
  • Bad habits brought from other forums that care less about plagiarism
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This reason doesn't really apply for the recent wave of bans as the merit system was not around during this time but still valid for possible reasons for todays plagiarism.
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May 23, 2019, 02:49:32 PM
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Known members are not getting banned from nothing becayse one of the biggest reasons why known accounts are getting banned are from the plagiarized post they don't even know where it came from. One of the recent example there is from billgator in which he got banned from a post he unknowingly plagiarized and do you know the reason why he doesn't know about it? He is not the first owner of the account and he just bought it from another user who probably plagiarized his way to rank up. So as you can see some high ranking members got banned because of the plagiarism they didn't even do.
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May 26, 2019, 08:41:35 AM
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Known members are not getting banned from nothing becayse one of the biggest reasons why known accounts are getting banned are from the plagiarized post they don't even know where it came from. One of the recent example there is from billgator in which he got banned from a post he unknowingly plagiarized and do you know the reason why he doesn't know about it? He is not the first owner of the account and he just bought it from another user who probably plagiarized his way to rank up. So as you can see some high ranking members got banned because of the plagiarism they didn't even do.
Even they did plagiarised themselves or not (because plagiarsim made before the days they bought their accounts), it is clearly that they all made mistakes. Consequently, they have to admit all their mistakes, and wait for second chances to come back from death. However, as we all understood that probability to come back from deaths is very very low, and only positive-net-effected users can have such chances. If a banned users even don't think that they don't have any kind of positive-net-effects, they should once again accept their permanent death. It's hard to accept, and might make them madly, but it's fact, and if there is available second chance, but they actually can not take it, they should not complain anything more.

At least from bill gator situation, we got one more thing: Bought accounts that perma-banned, but get positive net-effects can actually come back with negative trusts after their perma-bans uplifted.

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May 26, 2019, 09:08:40 AM
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 An unfortunate coincidence of  commonly used phrases  is hanging  like the  "sword of Damocles" over each forum's participant. Isn't it better to implement on forum  the   preliminary background check to ensure that none of the plagiarism cases is envisaged after user's post came to life?  
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May 26, 2019, 11:17:52 AM
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The oxford dictionary stated that there are around 171,476 words currently in use. Obviously we should narrow down the number of words used in a given sentence here due to grammatical constraints and forum context.

Providing one is slightly original in thought, and writes phrases which are not just a couple of words long, one should be ok. Reported plagiarism is manually checked before proceeding to rule on it, so context and intent are taken into account.
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May 26, 2019, 11:24:43 AM
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The oxford dictionary stated that there are around 171,476 words currently in use. Obviously we should narrow down the number of words used in a given sentence here due to grammatical constraints and forum context.
I don't note the post of theymos on it, so I can point it out here, but theymos answered someone else's question on the risk of being considered as plagiarism by posting well-known idioms, something like this. Theymos, actually does not consider it as plagiarism at all by pointing out the even in universities, such idioms/ phrases simply be put in " xxxx ", that's all.
In the forum context, some most popular phrases like "Coin specifications, bitcoin block reward halving, and so on" are not considered as plagiarism.

Personally, I don't see convincing reasons to spend time and bandwith to collect such things and use them as sources for plagiabots. Mainly because people actually know what they do when copying and pasting. When plagiarism found, it is definitely very clear and convincing proofs.

 
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May 26, 2019, 08:09:43 PM
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Personally, I don't see convincing reasons to spend time and bandwith to collect such things and use them as sources for plagiabots. Mainly because people actually know what they do when copying and pasting. When plagiarism found, it is definitely very clear and convincing proofs.
Yeah agree with you and its true that some people think that its not going to reveal if they slightly edit someone others and use that as their own. I don't understand why you need to copy others if you don't have the ability to deliver something from your own. If you care about to increase your activity or getting merits then obviously you should keep it on mind that stealing others ideas isn't a good habit and thats not going to give you good return. Isn't i better to achieve the skill of free writing by your own?

Its pretty much common that one person don't have the quality to do everything perfectly but why you are taking it as a bad thing. Learning is always a better thing. So anyone can put them far from plagiarism by building a habit of learning rather than copying others. All we should remind that sooner or later our plagiarism will be opened to everyone and that time we will be ashamed for our past work.


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May 26, 2019, 10:07:12 PM
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The oxford dictionary stated that there are around 171,476 words currently in use. Obviously we should narrow down the number of words used in a given sentence here due to grammatical constraints and forum context.

According to lingholic, a vocabulary of 3,000 words will cover 95% of "common texts" and the average adult has a vocabulary of about 20,000 words.

If you take the 3,000 words that make up 95% of "common texts" (books, news articles, blog posts), and square this figure, there are 9 million possible word combinations. This means if you write two random words, there is a 1 in 9 million chance someone else will write those same words also writing two random words. Granted, some of the rules of English grammar dictate that certain words cannot be used after other particular words. I believe there to be possibly be about 5 million posts in this forum, if I am understanding how the "msg" number works in SMF correctly.

Some words are used more frequently than others, and some words will be used more frequently when discussing a particular topic/subject. I think it is pretty unlikely that two people will write the same thing, with the 2nd person writing 10 or more words exactly as the first person wrote without ever interacting with the 1st person's post.

There are certain common phrases that are okay, but I have not seen anyone banned for using a common phrase. 
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May 27, 2019, 03:15:22 AM
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It is likely you mentioned about me, like I actually plagiarised ^^.
I read a book from a Buddism monk, in which he wrote that people often feel sad when their mistakes found, and get punishments; but they should think positively and feel happy that more of their bad things have not been found yet. (I don't know where it is in the book, because I have not read this book in English version, you can buy and read it for your interests) https://www.amazon.com/Who-Ordered-This-Truckload-Dung/dp/0861712781
It is nearly the same what usually occur when people get permanent bans due to their plagiarism. They only complained, appealed, but they forgot to say thanks to all the rest violations that have not been found yet.

 
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