What's wrong with Vod, and Hhampuz

[Thule]

Opinions expressed on this forum should not be punished with red trust.

I give you here officaly the last 8 days for removing your false negative tags from my account or proof to the whole forum i'm a scammer or tried to scam someone.

I have to agree with people that i also can't understand Theymos giving abusers like you and the gang so much power which has been abused and more important refuse to take their negative tag away even THEYMOS clearly stated that tagging for something like that is a clear abuse of the trust feedback.

Noone can say you're a scammer I do not believe. That's the flaw in the TRUST system IMO. That is also the reason we need a TRUST system for traders and such, and a REPUTATION system for trolls such as yourself.

The 2 definitely need to be separated. I believe if this were to be implemented then things would be alot better around here. Of course, then we would have you and others bitching you have been labeled a troll and you don't believe you are, but at least then we could post proof(almost all your posts) and be justified in our troll tag.

I am going to remove my tag on you solely for the reason that you are correct, you're not a scammer but I think the reason others have tagged you is due to the fact they have no other option to handle a person such as you. I wouldn't expect anyone else to follow suit with me but I hope a REPUTATION system could be considered and implemented.

The only troll on this forum are people abusing the trust system finding any BS to add a negative tagg to somebody who doesn't fit their agenda.
People defending themself demanding proof for being called a scammer are being called trolls at the same time i didn't saw you as DT member stepping in on other members who attacked my family,my business used very vulgar words and systematicly implemented lies on my person.
Where were you there?    Cause people who stepped in got instantly also put into the defamed league.

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[malevolent]

Noone can say you're a scammer I do not believe. That's the flaw in the TRUST system IMO. That is also the reason we need a TRUST system for traders and such, and a REPUTATION system for trolls such as yourself.
The 2 definitely need to be separated. I believe if this were to be implemented then things would be alot better around here. Of course, then we would have you and others bitching you have been labeled a troll and you don't believe you are, but at least then we could post proof(almost all your posts) and be justified in our troll tag.
I wouldn't expect anyone else to follow suit with me but I hope a REPUTATION system could be considered and implemented.

We used to have this feature where if enough people ('established users', I don't remember the exact definition) clicked to 'Ignore' a given user's post, his Ignore button started changing colours, from light yellow to dark orange/brown if I remember correctly. This feature, same as some user/forum statistics, was disabled because it was taking too many resources IIRC.

[suchmoon]

LOL says suchmoon who gave tons of negative ratings because of other peoples opinions.

You received red trust not because of your opinion but because of your actions. There is a difference.

Suchmoon maybe OG is not going to bend you over but the lawsuite will.
I give you here officaly the last 8 days for removing your false negative tags from my account or proof to the whole forum i'm a scammer or tried to scam someone.

Case in point. Threatening me with lawsuits is not going to remove your red trust but rather cement my belief that you're a danger to the community.

[Thule]

LOL says suchmoon who gave tons of negative ratings because of other peoples opinions.

You received red trust not because of your opinion but because of your actions. There is a difference.

Suchmoon maybe OG is not going to bend you over but the lawsuite will.
I give you here officaly the last 8 days for removing your false negative tags from my account or proof to the whole forum i'm a scammer or tried to scam someone.

Case in point. Threatening me with lawsuits is not going to remove your red trust but rather cement my belief that you're a danger to the community.

Yes i'm a danger to the forum holding you responsible for your actions.Nice manipulation from you as always.
8 days.
Post archived as evidence for court that you saw and understood my message.
Am waiting for proof within 8 days that i scammed or the tag removed else i will send out the lawsuite.

@Forum @Theymos

I'm giving suchmoon a fair chance 14 days in total to proof that i'm a scammer or tried to scam someone or to remove the false negative tag to close that dispute in peace.
Should she not deliver any of these two it's not me being hold responsible for her abusive behavior which would end in a lawsuite.

[Vod]

@Forum @Theymos

I'm giving suchmoon a fair chance 14 days in total to proof that i'm a scammer or tried to scam someone or to remove the false negative tag.
Should she not deliver any of these two it's not me being hold responsible for her abusive behavior which ended in a lawsuite.

Forum believes you will do nothing, like you did with me. 

[Thule]

@Forum @Theymos

I'm giving suchmoon a fair chance 14 days in total to proof that i'm a scammer or tried to scam someone or to remove the false negative tag.
Should she not deliver any of these two it's not me being hold responsible for her abusive behavior which ended in a lawsuite.

Forum believes you will do nothing, like you did with me.  

I sent you a message on facebook.Please confirm Vod.
How often do you want me to ask for it if you want a case opened against you ?

Why are you hiding like last time ?

[Vod]

How often do you want me to ask for it if you want a case opened against you ?

So if Suchmoon doesn't give you her geocities, you won't sue her either?

:/

[Thule]

How often do you want me to ask for it if you want a case opened against you ?

So if Suchmoon doesn't give you her geocities, you won't sue her either?

:/

I got suchmoons details with legal proof.

But i don't understand why you are asking ?You are such a big mouth and still let me beg to confirm your facebook profil like last time.
It would take 5 sec.Where is the problem for you to confirm your profil when you claim you are willing to give me your full details ?

Vod you are begging me to open that lawsuite so you don't have 5 sec to confirm your facebook profil ?

Whats up ?

[Vod]

Just have your lawyer contact me, liar.   

[OgNasty]

Vod is terrified. Deleting evidence and backtracking. A true weasel.

[Thule]

Whats your issue in confirming your facebook profil ?
Big mouth hiding ?Do you have no balls as you always claim?

[marlboroza]

For the meriters, I can understand the argument for red-trust, but I tend to think that it's at the wrong level. If the meriter was meriting it because they were actively thinking, "I want to make the forum really vicious, where everyone is constantly tearing each other apart for stupid things, and this post moves in that direction," even that's not really a trust-relevant motive, just a very unhelpful motive. And probably the meriters were thinking more innocent things than that.

I merited many posts where someone has used investigatory skills

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136092.msg50802606#msg50802606
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5081556.msg48682521#msg48682521

and I also received merit for
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4508262.msg40659408#msg40659408

There was a video and there was a house from that video, and I automatically pressed merit button without thinking too much and without thinking some people may see it the way they see it, I didn't use it for whatever some of you people are speculating I did.

I have never said I support this doxing, I have never said I support reporting him to government agency and I have never took anything outside this forum, and on side note IIRC I have never received answer to this doxing:

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Is this really necessary? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5022570.0

He even put his dox on trust wall https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=911719

If you want to remove me from merit source I am fine with that.
If someone wants to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108783.msg49698602#msg49698602 I am fine with that.
If someone wants to place negative on my wall - I am fine with that
If someone wants to place neutral comment - I am also fine with that

Make sure it is correct one. @teeGUMES:

I spoke with Vod and we have had the edited dox post removed.

Why is your "discussion" with Vod in my trust wall?

I would have preferred to be able to talk to you in a mature conversation and change your mind

Ok, no problem, we shall talk. Just give me a second to prepare myself for conversation...



"Ok, you got my full attention, talk!"

[Lesbian Cow]

It's good that Vod came to his senses on this after the fact, though doing it at all certainly blemishes his reputation in my mind, and I added to my notes the fact that those users merited such a post. Meriting it is saying basically that we need more posts like this on the forum, and we do not need more posts like this on the forum.

Red-trusting Vod over this is an appropriate usage of red-trust, since his actions here are highly trust-relevant. But I tend to think that since he edited his post and seems to genuinely regret at least the public doxxing part, it'd be best to forgive.

It's irrelevant that Vod came to his senses after the fact.    We know thousands of people saw that post and likely dozens of people copied or saved that information.   Deleting his post did not undo what was done.  He literally risked lives by posting an address and basically said "hey, there's 500 BTC at this location".   It's an insanely dangerous precedent to set.  What happens when an innocent person or even a child is hurt due to a home invasion because of a post like this?  Nearly 3.5M USD is a lot of incentive for a bad person to attempt something terrible.

There was no reason for it, as you already stated.  Ognasty isn't running for president as far as I know so his taxes should be no one's business but OG and the IRS.   The feigned outrage is comical.   No one cares about OG's taxes, they just want to hurt ognasty.

Seems like a bitch move by Vod.  Settle your Internet arguments without whining to the US government and doxxing where people live and store their valuables. 
 

[teeGUMES]

"Ok, you got my full attention, talk!"

Look he's doing that cute thing that Lauda does by posting a picture or gif to try to make fun of you. Pretty cute marlie.

Why is your "discussion" with Vod in my trust wall?

It's not? It links to this thread because the public doxx post that you decided it was proper to merit was deleted.. I dinged all four merit posts and because it was the wrong tool to use(there is no longer a post which equals no more merit for doxx) I offered what is on your trust wall as an explanation. You may not have been online when it happened so I didn't want you blindsided.

Further up in your post I see that you have another doxx problem.. it's unfortunate that DT1 hasn't acted on that back then. Not sure what these guys have been doing for years. I'd take a look at it but it appears DT1 is okay with doxxing (my negative on Vod has been countered left and right). Don't let them catch you selling an account though. Bad bad news!

Try reading the thread for any other answers you need, I've explained my position many times quite clearly.

[suchmoon]

Further up in your post I see that you have another doxx problem.. it's unfortunate that DT1 hasn't acted on that back then. Not sure what these guys have been doing for years. I'd take a look at it but it appears DT1 is okay with doxxing (my negative on Vod has been countered left and right).

So much for your new-found stance against doxing, lasted less than a day

BTW OgNasty was in DT1 for years, including at the time of Hhampuz dox, and most current members were not. You may have messed up that finger-pointing.

[Hhampuz]

Further up in your post I see that you have another doxx problem.. it's unfortunate that DT1 hasn't acted on that back then. Not sure what these guys have been doing for years. I'd take a look at it but it appears DT1 is okay with doxxing (my negative on Vod has been countered left and right).

So much for your new-found stance against doxing, lasted less than a day

BTW OgNasty was in DT1 for years, including at the time of Hhampuz dox, and most current members were not. You may have messed up that finger-pointing.

Selective enforcement of rules and morals is lovely, just my opinion 

[teeGUMES]

Further up in your post I see that you have another doxx problem.. it's unfortunate that DT1 hasn't acted on that back then. Not sure what these guys have been doing for years. I'd take a look at it but it appears DT1 is okay with doxxing (my negative on Vod has been countered left and right).

So much for your new-found stance against doxing, lasted less than a day

BTW OgNasty was in DT1 for years, including at the time of Hhampuz dox, and most current members were not. You may have messed up that finger-pointing.

I've been discouraged by my peers for the time being, hard to get shit on by people I thought were held to a higher standard. It'll be okay I'll hopefully come around by the time one of you send merit for doxxing

Further up in your post I see that you have another doxx problem.. it's unfortunate that DT1 hasn't acted on that back then. Not sure what these guys have been doing for years. I'd take a look at it but it appears DT1 is okay with doxxing (my negative on Vod has been countered left and right).

So much for your new-found stance against doxing, lasted less than a day

BTW OgNasty was in DT1 for years, including at the time of Hhampuz dox, and most current members were not. You may have messed up that finger-pointing.

Selective enforcement of rules and morals is lovely, just my opinion  

Any new DT1 member has to go back and fix the failures that people who have been on DT1 for years failed to take a stance on? How far back should I go? All the way to the forum beginning?

Please tell me more about my morals? I've strongly upheld them. You however flip flop back and forth. Enjoy your time on theymos' list of notes.

All of you guys' hate for OgNasty just continues to shine. You can't even hide it anymore. Visibly shaking.

[Hhampuz]

Yessir! I hold to myself now sir, sorry for speaking my opinion sir.

[teeGUMES]

Yessir! I hold to myself now sir, sorry for speaking my opinion sir.

How long until another of these pops up?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129675.msg50521921#msg50521921
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5137324.msg50820769#msg50820769
Very insecure individual.
Anyways I won't let this hit Vod vs OgNasty levels, very easy to press Ignore here.

[Hhampuz]

Yessir, sorry for trying to better myself and staying in tune with community, sir. I will get back in lane now sir!