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May 13, 2019, 12:07:47 PM
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Congratulations all around for weeks of gains and a couple days with some really exciting price action! For anyone who bought sub 6k, that’s some nice return on investment. With those kinds of numbers, it’s natural for you to want to take some profit.

If you’re someone who will actually hodl through the next six bull/bear cycles, I commend you. If you’re a mere mortal like the rest of us, having a plan for how you take profits is the first step towards building a secure future for your family.

My personal strategy is to bank 30% of the profits from each trade into cold storage BTC, locked away for decades to come. When it comes to USD/BTC movements, I prefer to margin trade to accumulate BTC rather than cash out for dollars.

Some people may prefer to take profits in USD or other currencies. If that’s your end goal, that works too. The strategy can be personalized to your needs, but the key concept is that a self tax on trading income is a solid way to defend your profits.

One strategy that often floats around is the idea that at some (generally poorly defined) point you should cash out and attempt to rebuy at some (equally poorly defined) point lower. As tempting as this may be, trying to time the long term market with sufficient accuracy is like throwing a dart at a moving dartboard in the dark. Strong technical analysis might turn on the light, but ultimately even just hitting the board isn’t a given.

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May 13, 2019, 02:33:37 PM
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Congratulations all around for weeks of gains and a couple days with some really exciting price action! For anyone who bought sub 6k, that’s some nice return on investment. With those kinds of numbers, it’s natural for you to want to take some profit.

You may be lucky to have seen gains in recent hours but the price has been stable since November last year.
Converting 30% without setting a suitable time will result in your loss, you should choose the right time to enter the market especially with the return of violent volatility again.
If you focus, each point is good to be considered as a start and then build profits on it. This strategy is acquired and not learned through channels.
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May 13, 2019, 04:06:06 PM
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I believe Op is the shorting type. I can see he is shaky and indecisive to wait longer  Grin well it is understanding when you have been at losing end since price was bear. I would wait longer and I think that is how the market is going.
In few hours we are seeing another huge bull movement on the price of bitcoin so yes we need to wait more for more profits.

Looks like this is just the beginning at the end we will see the current price as nothing.









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May 13, 2019, 04:38:12 PM
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I believe Op is the shorting type. I can see he is shaky and indecisive to wait longer  Grin well it is understanding when you have been at losing end since price was bear. I would wait longer and I think that is how the market is going.
In few hours we are seeing another huge bull movement on the price of bitcoin so yes we need to wait more for more profits.

Looks like this is just the beginning at the end we will see the current price as nothing.
That's ongoing right now, we are continuing to see the bull really making everything up, Bitcoin or any Alts needs to be reassess as you'll going to regrets everything if you failed to follow what trend will be in the next few days or weeks, think for much higher outcome.
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May 13, 2019, 05:02:01 PM
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I believe Op is the shorting type. I can see he is shaky and indecisive to wait longer  Grin well it is understanding when you have been at losing end since the price was bear. I would wait longer and I think that is how the market is going.


Prices are increasing unexpectedly and it's really surprising and giving us a feeling of too much excitement which is normal. I believe that the prices could still go more and it would never fail us. We can now say that the long agony of waiting will soon be over.

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May 13, 2019, 05:16:29 PM
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I prefer to margin trade to accumulate BTC rather than cash out for dollars.
I believe that what you are doing isn't called margin trading since it involves you borrowing/lending money out for a loan in order to trade in assets, you might just be re-investing your profits earned from trades in order to accumulate more when it has bottomed out. This is a popular approach for traders who aren't willing to add more additional capital to trade they just rather sell high and buy low to accumulate again and for the type of market we have this is a an ideal strategy for a lot of traders to profit at the same time accumulate more position.

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May 13, 2019, 05:50:15 PM
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I believe Op is the shorting type. I can see he is shaky and indecisive to wait longer  Grin well it is understanding when you have been at losing end since price was bear. I would wait longer and I think that is how the market is going.
In few hours we are seeing another huge bull movement on the price of bitcoin so yes we need to wait more for more profits.

Looks like this is just the beginning at the end we will see the current price as nothing.
Although the huge bull is happening in this day, we still are careful because the red candle still on the market and it could happen in anytime.
Yes, we are making a nice profit for this day, but it doesn't mean that the situations will be the same tomorrow.
But if we check on the market situations now, we have a chance to see the next increasing of the price in the next few hours later.
We need to take the profit right away before the price is down without we know when it will increase again.

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May 13, 2019, 07:32:49 PM
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Although the huge bull is happening in this day, we still are careful because the red candle still on the market and it could happen in anytime.
Huge bull run? I don't think so. I would call this a mini bull run and am expecting a big one sometime next year. Don't worry about the value going down since it might correct itself here and there, but will continue surging slowly and steadily and might touch $10K by the end of this year.

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May 13, 2019, 07:42:48 PM
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Although the huge bull is happening in this day, we still are careful because the red candle still on the market and it could happen in anytime.
Huge bull run? I don't think so. I would call this a mini bull run and am expecting a big one sometime next year. Don't worry about the value going down since it might correct itself here and there, but will continue surging slowly and steadily and might touch $10K by the end of this year.

It is on way to mark the 10k USD value only but you feel this short bull run. May I know, how come you can speculate like that?

When the market moving like a rocket we should try to use such value now and convert it for fiat if you do not have faith. People whoever having faith will definetely know the price surge of bitcoin.
This year bitcoin will hit 10k USD or even more for sure.

 
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May 13, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
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Although the huge bull is happening in this day, we still are careful because the red candle still on the market and it could happen in anytime.
Huge bull run? I don't think so. I would call this a mini bull run and am expecting a big one sometime next year. Don't worry about the value going down since it might correct itself here and there, but will continue surging slowly and steadily and might touch $10K by the end of this year.
At least we are experiencing a bull run this year unlike last year it was a whole year of crypto crash.
And yes it looks like no matter what happens the Bitcoin price would be back at $10k before this year ends .

It is on way to mark the 10k USD value only but you feel this short bull run. May I know, how come you can speculate like that?

When the market moving like a rocket we should try to use such value now and convert it for fiat if you do not have faith. People whoever having faith will definetely know the price surge of bitcoin.
This year bitcoin will hit 10k USD or even more for sure.

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May 14, 2019, 06:01:15 AM
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I'm one of that guy who bought bitcoins when the price still $6k and hold it until today, even the bitcoin price is at $8,000 right now.

I'm also same like you, always take 10-20% of the profits and keep it the rest. With this bullish market, i usually hold more and wait until a good timing to take all profits.

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May 14, 2019, 10:51:03 AM
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I'm one of that guy who bought bitcoins when the price still $6k and hold it until today, even the bitcoin price is at $8,000 right now.

I'm also same like you, always take 10-20% of the profits and keep it the rest. With this bullish market, i usually hold more and wait until a good timing to take all profits.
The current market is totally different so we are all earn good profit in short term. At the same time some peoples are depends on daily uptrend so they are all concentrate more in this platform. I think this year all are earning good profit so those are waiting for the altcoin pump surely it will possible soon.

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May 14, 2019, 11:28:03 AM
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I believe Op is the shorting type. I can see he is shaky and indecisive to wait longer  Grin well it is understanding when you have been at losing end since price was bear. I would wait longer and I think that is how the market is going.
In few hours we are seeing another huge bull movement on the price of bitcoin so yes we need to wait more for more profits.

Looks like this is just the beginning at the end we will see the current price as nothing.
I guess this tone of bitcoin pulling back and dropping so low would gradually be fading out now as BTC keeps shocking people with its unbelievable price jump and I what made bitcoin suddenly start jumping and running so fast on this bull lane, hope we are safe.

Holdlers are really the ones that will enjoy more this time, because those who are taking profit will really be finding it hard now to buy back again, as the sharp and fast increase is causing them confusion on when to buy the coin again, they are unsure if there will be a correction or if the price will continue to surge, that is why there is nothing as peaceful as holding.
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May 14, 2019, 11:45:58 AM
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I'm one of that guy who bought bitcoins when the price still $6k and hold it until today, even the bitcoin price is at $8,000 right now.

I'm also same like you, always take 10-20% of the profits and keep it the rest. With this bullish market, i usually hold more and wait until a good timing to take all profits.
The current market is totally different so we are all earn good profit in short term. At the same time some peoples are depends on daily uptrend so they are all concentrate more in this platform. I think this year all are earning good profit so those are waiting for the altcoin pump surely it will possible soon.
unfortunately for altcoin outside of top 100 coinmarketcap didn't effected with bitcoin bullish moment.and even these coins dumped alot due to their investors prefer to hold bitcoin.but i am sure someday if they developt their projects well its price will recovery again.
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May 14, 2019, 11:57:00 AM
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Congratulations all around for weeks of gains and a couple days with some really exciting price action! For anyone who bought sub 6k, that’s some nice return on investment. With those kinds of numbers, it’s natural for you to want to take some profit.

If you’re someone who will actually hodl through the next six bull/bear cycles, I commend you. If you’re a mere mortal like the rest of us, having a plan for how you take profits is the first step towards building a secure future for your family.

My personal strategy is to bank 30% of the profits from each trade into cold storage BTC, locked away for decades to come. When it comes to USD/BTC movements, I prefer to margin trade to accumulate BTC rather than cash out for dollars.

Some people may prefer to take profits in USD or other currencies. If that’s your end goal, that works too. The strategy can be personalized to your needs, but the key concept is that a self tax on trading income is a solid way to defend your profits.

One strategy that often floats around is the idea that at some (generally poorly defined) point you should cash out and attempt to rebuy at some (equally poorly defined) point lower. As tempting as this may be, trying to time the long term market with sufficient accuracy is like throwing a dart at a moving dartboard in the dark. Strong technical analysis might turn on the light, but ultimately even just hitting the board isn’t a given.

If you want to learn more about trading strategies, check out Voodoo Crypto.


No need to cash out and re-buy lower, just keep holding and buy more on the dips.
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May 14, 2019, 01:21:36 PM
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Perfect timing is to sell it before it will goes down the price it also need a timing with safe strategy than hold it for long-time because we can't expect that price of your coin continuosly gonna pump up.

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May 14, 2019, 01:24:02 PM
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Very good and clear explanation. Interestingly, if we trade in crypto, we get an unexpected profit. I think bitcoin will touch the price of $ 10000 until the end of this month.
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May 14, 2019, 01:34:07 PM
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My personal strategy is to bank 30% of the profits from each trade into cold storage BTC, locked away for decades to come. When it comes to USD/BTC movements, I prefer to margin trade to accumulate BTC rather than cash out for dollars.

I don't know how you can accumulate BTC by margin trading.

Some people may prefer to take profits in USD or other currencies. If that’s your end goal, that works too. The strategy can be personalized to your needs, but the key concept is that a self tax on trading income is a solid way to defend your profits.

I personally believed that majority would easily take profits this way. There could be for personal reasons, but smart investors would waste money though, sure they will take profits, but at some point, they will go and recycle, and then enter the market again.

One strategy that often floats around is the idea that at some (generally poorly defined) point you should cash out and attempt to rebuy at some (equally poorly defined) point lower. As tempting as this may be, trying to time the long term market with sufficient accuracy is like throwing a dart at a moving dartboard in the dark. Strong technical analysis might turn on the light, but ultimately even just hitting the board isn’t a given.

Why not? This might be an old strategy, but it is also applicable in crypto market. Take profits, wait for the right time to re-invest rinse and repeat. I used different plans and strategies and doesn't take 100% profit specially if I don't need it anyways.

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May 14, 2019, 03:00:26 PM
 #19

to be able to maintain certain profits we must also be able to read the market situation and the right time to trade.
therefore it is very important to do this if you want to retain the assets you have.
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May 14, 2019, 04:56:34 PM
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Congratulations all around for weeks of gains and a couple days with some really exciting price action!

great year and I hope that in the coming months it will be even better.

For anyone who bought sub 6k, that’s some nice return on investment.

currently the price is in the $8000, but yesterday had risen to $8400, has been very agitated weeks

With those kinds of numbers, it’s natural for you to want to take some profit.

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If you’re someone who will actually hodl through the next six bull/bear cycles, I commend you.

What do you mean with that: "the next six bull / bear cycles"?

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