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May 18, 2019, 04:13:25 PM
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I think that no one can win in a scientific way in a game where you don't control anything.Betting on horse races has no clear pattern and is one of the most difficult to predict.There are people who corrupt the races for their own benefit and make a heavy underdog win the race, in this case is an example of you having no control on the outcome of the event.


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May 18, 2019, 04:47:54 PM
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Your account name is a good horse name indeed. Grin.  I also have some betting experience in horse racing, but then again, it is difficult as other may have thought. Yes, it's so simple you either have to choose the winner, who will place second or third. But that is not that simple though. There's the big factor, the jockeys, if the horse is good but if the jockey doesn't want to push the horse to win then you will be just disappointed on your bets.









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May 18, 2019, 05:32:32 PM
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I think that no one can win in a scientific way in a game where you don't control anything.Betting on horse races has no clear pattern and is one of the most difficult to predict.There are people who corrupt the races for their own benefit and make a heavy underdog win the race, in this case is an example of you having no control on the outcome of the event.



Betting on horse race is one of the most popular bets world wide. Although the outcome of the result is difficult to predict yet many people bet on their favorite horses.
Same like in horse reach betting, in most cases, if a underdog horse or team wins, most likely this is done to earn a lot of money for big gamblers and rekt the rest of the gamblers who will definitely chose the more powerful horse or team.
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May 18, 2019, 05:41:39 PM
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OP why are you selling such a moneymaker?

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May 18, 2019, 08:34:30 PM
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Your post looks so convincing but you're are newbie unfortunately.
There is a reason why members don't post stuff like this with their real/valuable forum accounts... because strategies like this are outright scam or they are not sure about what they claim they can do.
Use an old clean account that you actually own If you want to be taken seriously
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May 19, 2019, 06:20:42 AM
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Nah, horse racing is just like any other form of gambling out there, it will be very difficult to win. Although you can have your analysis of every horse, most of the time it's unpredictable. I've been betting in horse races as well, local to my country, but so far I would say that I haven't hit a big windfall because sometimes jockeys and horse owners connived, on who is going to win, or if they will deliberately lost a race, just saying.

You are correct in stating that some horse races are rigged.  Unfortunately though, you have con men, swindlers, and cheaters in every business.  It is just a part of life and has to be dealt with.  While the jockeys, trainers, and owners can all try to rig the race, the horse cannot.  Horses do not lie or connive amongst themselves.  Horses only know one thing, and that is to run as fast as it possibly can.  This insomuch makes horse racing somewhat immune to the personal whims and fancies of the unscrupulous human members.  I would say that the mass majority of the horse races are not rigged.  There is too much money at stake for the clubs to allow racing to develop a bad reputation.  They certainly don't want people to have a bad opinion of races and they don't want to run afoul of the local politicians and get banned.  I would wager to say that the stock markets are more rigged than horse racing.  I know of many asses running the stock market, but I have never seen an ass run a horse race.

And that is exactly my point. You said in your post:

"Daily Profit Return = 60%!"

How can you get that returns if there is a possibility of the race being rigged? Of course we wanted to see some long shot horse win, but most of the time, those horse owners and jockeys with the collusion with other managers and jockeys will make a long shot horse won, but it's really really hard to know because it's only known within their circles.

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May 19, 2019, 10:09:09 AM
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I think that no one can win in a scientific way in a game where you don't control anything.Betting on horse races has no clear pattern and is one of the most difficult to predict.There are people who corrupt the races for their own benefit and make a heavy underdog win the race, in this case is an example of you having no control on the outcome of the event.

This certainly happened in this year's Kentucky Derby, but it is not the normal.

Your account name is a good horse name indeed. Grin

Wise observation.  My account name was derived from the combination of two horse names run in Hong Kong this year.

I also have some betting experience in horse racing, but then again, it is difficult as other may have thought. Yes, it's so simple you either have to choose the winner, who will place second or third. But that is not that simple though. There's the big factor, the jockeys, if the horse is good but if the jockey doesn't want to push the horse to win then you will be just disappointed on your bets.

There are some jockeys who do this at the behest of the owners.  Can anyone predict the winner of a horse race 100% of the time?  No, of course not.  You can though increase your chances of winning by using certain mathematical probabilities which hold true for a great deal of the races run.

I think that no one can win in a scientific way in a game where you don't control anything.Betting on horse races has no clear pattern and is one of the most difficult to predict.There are people who corrupt the races for their own benefit and make a heavy underdog win the race, in this case is an example of you having no control on the outcome of the event.

Betting on horse race is one of the most popular bets world wide. Although the outcome of the result is difficult to predict yet many people bet on their favorite horses.
Same like in horse reach betting, in most cases, if a underdog horse or team wins, most likely this is done to earn a lot of money for big gamblers and rekt the rest of the gamblers who will definitely chose the more powerful horse or team.

The common man makes the rookie mistake of betting on horses with low odds (aka the favorite).  You will never amass fortune by following the common man.

OP why are you selling such a moneymaker?

Why not?  If I sell it, I still retain it for my own use.  Most people do not want to believe that such a feat is possible and therefore outright dismiss the possibility.  This is attributed to their closed-mindedness and peer influence.  It is the rare man who can see the jewel in the rough.

Your post looks so convincing but you're are newbie unfortunately.
There is a reason why members don't post stuff like this with their real/valuable forum accounts... because strategies like this are outright scam or they are not sure about what they claim they can do.
Use an old clean account that you actually own If you want to be taken seriously

Did Satoshi use a legendary account?  Did BCNext?  I am following in the footsteps of the original ideologues of this forum.  It is not my job to convince you.  You must come to that conclusion yourself.

Nah, horse racing is just like any other form of gambling out there, it will be very difficult to win. Although you can have your analysis of every horse, most of the time it's unpredictable. I've been betting in horse races as well, local to my country, but so far I would say that I haven't hit a big windfall because sometimes jockeys and horse owners connived, on who is going to win, or if they will deliberately lost a race, just saying.

You are correct in stating that some horse races are rigged.  Unfortunately though, you have con men, swindlers, and cheaters in every business.  It is just a part of life and has to be dealt with.  While the jockeys, trainers, and owners can all try to rig the race, the horse cannot.  Horses do not lie or connive amongst themselves.  Horses only know one thing, and that is to run as fast as it possibly can.  This insomuch makes horse racing somewhat immune to the personal whims and fancies of the unscrupulous human members.  I would say that the mass majority of the horse races are not rigged.  There is too much money at stake for the clubs to allow racing to develop a bad reputation.  They certainly don't want people to have a bad opinion of races and they don't want to run afoul of the local politicians and get banned.  I would wager to say that the stock markets are more rigged than horse racing.  I know of many asses running the stock market, but I have never seen an ass run a horse race.

And that is exactly my point. You said in your post:

"Daily Profit Return = 60%!"

How can you get that returns if there is a possibility of the race being rigged? Of course we wanted to see some long shot horse win, but most of the time, those horse owners and jockeys with the collusion with other managers and jockeys will make a long shot horse won, but it's really really hard to know because it's only known within their circles.

Not all the races are rigged.  It is much easier to rig a football game than a horse race.  All the football players speak a human language and can be bribed.  You cannot bribe a horse or converse with him.  He is an animal with animal instincts.  How often do you see horses doing what they want regardless of the jockey?  How many times do they throw the jockey, get restless at the gates, or injure themselves?  Is this at the behest of the jockey, trainer, or owner?  Surely not.  It is the horse who most of the time calls the shots.
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May 20, 2019, 06:42:05 PM
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I will be posting my recommendations for the Hong Kong Happy Valley meet coming this Wednesday night, 2019 May 22 at 7:15 PM, for those who would like to see an insight into my methods.

There is more to being successful at the track than just picking the winner.  Capital management has the ability to turn a losing strategy into a winning one and low profits into big profits.  I have a capital management (bet allocation) system which does just that.  You must have the fortitude to stay out of a race when the odds are too low and follow the rules for it to work.  Most professional handicappers only have a win rate of 25-30% and a fair number of the horses they select have low odds (because they are favourites).  Even using their selections, this capital management system will show a good profit.
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May 20, 2019, 07:29:24 PM
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I will be posting my recommendations for the Hong Kong Happy Valley meet coming this Wednesday night, 2019 May 22 at 7:15 PM, for those who would like to see an insight into my methods.

There is more to being successful at the track than just picking the winner.  Capital management has the ability to turn a losing strategy into a winning one and low profits into big profits.  I have a capital management (bet allocation) system which does just that.  You must have the fortitude to stay out of a race when the odds are too low and follow the rules for it to work.  Most professional handicappers only have a win rate of 25-30% and a fair number of the horses they select have low odds (because they are favourites).  Even using their selections, this capital management system will show a good profit.

could you please tell us the time you mean with May 22 at 7:15 PM? is it forum time or ...........

thanks

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May 20, 2019, 08:05:51 PM
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Stuff like this comes up every other week around here, essentially the same as people selling calls and trading lessons in other sections in this forum in the sense that the same underlying message of fast, easy money is presented. If these methods are truly so good, the seller would just use whatever method(s) he has for his own good. Use your common sense, folks. It's your own duty here to determine whether or not something is a scam here, and if you just think a little bit you'll know in a few seconds whether a good or service is or isn't legit.
True thing! If these things does really exist even myself wont tend out to share it up and would decide to spoil publicly and make myself rich.
Imagine 60% profits guaranteed which can really make you rich in a short duration of time.Even with just using your own common sense thing
you would able to spot out directly that this is just a total fraud.

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May 21, 2019, 12:12:42 AM
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I will be posting my recommendations for the Hong Kong Happy Valley meet coming this Wednesday night, 2019 May 22 at 7:15 PM, for those who would like to see an insight into my methods.

There is more to being successful at the track than just picking the winner.  Capital management has the ability to turn a losing strategy into a winning one and low profits into big profits.  I have a capital management (bet allocation) system which does just that.  You must have the fortitude to stay out of a race when the odds are too low and follow the rules for it to work.  Most professional handicappers only have a win rate of 25-30% and a fair number of the horses they select have low odds (because they are favourites).  Even using their selections, this capital management system will show a good profit.

could you please tell us the time you mean with May 22 at 7:15 PM? is it forum time or ...........

thanks

The "post time" (time of the start of the first race) is 7:15 PM HKT (Hong Kong Time UTC+8).  If you are in Britain, it is 12:15 PM BST (British Summer Time UTC+1) on May 22.  If you are in US, it is 7:15 AM EDT (Eastern Daylight Time UTC-4) on May 22.

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May 21, 2019, 12:19:01 AM
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Stuff like this comes up every other week around here, essentially the same as people selling calls and trading lessons in other sections in this forum in the sense that the same underlying message of fast, easy money is presented. If these methods are truly so good, the seller would just use whatever method(s) he has for his own good. Use your common sense, folks. It's your own duty here to determine whether or not something is a scam here, and if you just think a little bit you'll know in a few seconds whether a good or service is or isn't legit.
True thing! If these things does really exist even myself wont tend out to share it up and would decide to spoil publicly and make myself rich.
Imagine 60% profits guaranteed which can really make you rich in a short duration of time.Even with just using your own common sense thing
you would able to spot out directly that this is just a total fraud.

This perception is why it is safe for me to share this with a few select people.  Most people do not believe such a feat is possible.  The ones who take the risk get the most gain.  Let he who has the perception to judge, decide his fate.

Additionally, each race in Hong Kong has tens of millions of dollars bet on each one.  There are typically around twenty races a week.  This adds up to a lot of money in the pools.  Teaching a few people this methodology won't affect the odds (aka profitability).
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May 21, 2019, 05:06:24 AM
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"Not all the races are rigged.  It is much easier to rig a football game than a horse race.  All the football players speak a human language and can be bribed.  You cannot bribe a horse or converse with him.  He is an animal with animal instincts.  How often do you see horses doing what they want regardless of the jockey?  How many times do they throw the jockey, get restless at the gates, or injure themselves?  Is this at the behest of the jockey, trainer, or owner?  Surely not.  It is the horse who most of the time calls the shots."


Right, but the thing is, the jockey still handle them 100% when they're running, you can even do anything that will influence their run, i.e. overfeed them or or over water them before a race. Or the jockey will not push the horse during a race just riding him casually or if he feels that the horse is ready to go, he will either tighten up or loosen his grip on the horse. So "it's not the horse who most of the time calls the shots."

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May 21, 2019, 05:09:44 AM
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I think that no one can win in a scientific way in a game where you don't control anything.Betting on horse races has no clear pattern and is one of the most difficult to predict.There are people who corrupt the races for their own benefit and make a heavy underdog win the race, in this case is an example of you having no control on the outcome of the event.



Their cant be much pattern in the horse race as its not a mechanic machine which gives any random numbers. Its a living being and anything can happen when the human and living being are involved unless and untill it is fixed.

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May 21, 2019, 05:57:18 AM
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"Not all the races are rigged.  It is much easier to rig a football game than a horse race.  All the football players speak a human language and can be bribed.  You cannot bribe a horse or converse with him.  He is an animal with animal instincts.  How often do you see horses doing what they want regardless of the jockey?  How many times do they throw the jockey, get restless at the gates, or injure themselves?  Is this at the behest of the jockey, trainer, or owner?  Surely not.  It is the horse who most of the time calls the shots."


Right, but the thing is, the jockey still handle them 100% when they're running, you can even do anything that will influence their run, i.e. overfeed them or or over water them before a race. Or the jockey will not push the horse during a race just riding him casually or if he feels that the horse is ready to go, he will either tighten up or loosen his grip on the horse. So "it's not the horse who most of the time calls the shots."

My experience is that most horses try their utmost to take the lead and win regardless of the jockey.  I know some punters take the jockey and trainer into account when they do their figures, but I don't.  I do agree with you that jockeys, trainers, and owners can do things to upset the horse and spoil his chances for winning.  Even handlers at the gates can do so.  Look at Bodexpress in this year's Preakness Stakes.  (The handler at the gate held on to him after the start and caused him to throw his jockey.)  Whether that was intentional or accidental, we will never know.

I don't advise anyone to enter into any investment or gamble if they believe it is not honest.  Why bet money on something you believe to be rigged?  In my personal opinion, I think the majority of the races are conducted without foul play.  I wouldn't be doing this if I thought otherwise.
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May 21, 2019, 07:01:21 AM
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OP. Here is what you do. You open a new thread and post your scientific methods, and then show us your picks. You don't even need to show the maths behind it, no need for the calculations, just show us the results of the method, which is your picks. Then, don't forget to attach betslips so we know you're an actual betting guy and not just a tipster who sells tips.

Let the results speak for themselves. I'd love to see your 10 turn into 4000.

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May 22, 2019, 05:59:00 AM
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OP. Here is what you do. You open a new thread and post your scientific methods, and then show us your picks. You don't even need to show the maths behind it, no need for the calculations, just show us the results of the method, which is your picks. Then, don't forget to attach betslips so we know you're an actual betting guy and not just a tipster who sells tips.

Let the results speak for themselves. I'd love to see your 10 turn into 4000.

There is no need to start a new thread.  Should I charge more once I reveal the results of my analysis as per the logic of "Less Risk, Less Reward"?
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May 22, 2019, 06:38:17 AM
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Tonight's races at Happy Valley will be dominated by favorites winning.  Very few flukes or moderately backed horses will win.  If you go and bet on favorites tonight, you should do well.

Here is the race card.

Post time is at 7:15 PM Hong Kong Time (UTC+8).
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May 22, 2019, 08:59:05 AM
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Tonight's races at Happy Valley will be dominated by favorites winning.  Very few flukes or moderately backed horses will win.  If you go and bet on favorites tonight, you should do well.

Here is the race card.

Post time is at 7:15 PM Hong Kong Time (UTC+8).

Hi but you are not able to provide some bets?
Because it seems that you're providing only vague informations about these races.

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May 22, 2019, 12:59:34 PM
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Tonight's races at Happy Valley will be dominated by favorites winning.  Very few flukes or moderately backed horses will win.  If you go and bet on favorites tonight, you should do well.

Here is the race card.

Post time is at 7:15 PM Hong Kong Time (UTC+8).

Hi but you are not able to provide some bets?
Because it seems that you're providing only vague informations about these races.

What is the incentive to learn if I provide you with all the answers?
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