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[polypusx]

only foolish who will be -3%. do you think people will sell under market price while they can sell above market price?

[Steamtyme]

only foolish who will be -3%. do you think people will sell under market price while they can sell above market price?

People do it all the time. There are a lot of people out there that would rather get 97% of what they may get on an exchange than have their dealing known or tracked. Getting the percentages to go your way just depend on who you are dealing with and how much they're willing to wiggle; most people will try and push this to a 1:1 deal.

[polypusx]

only foolish who will be -3%. do you think people will sell under market price while they can sell above market price?

People do it all the time. There are a lot of people out there that would rather get 97% of what they may get on an exchange than have their dealing known or tracked. Getting the percentages to go your way just depend on who you are dealing with and how much they're willing to wiggle; most people will try and push this to a 1:1 deal.

buyer get -3% is normal, and i agree with you.. look his post, he buy below market price , thats mean if coinmarketcap $7900/btc , seller have to sell 3% below $7900. no one seller will do it. its kinda lost

[Steamtyme]

I read the post quite clearly. I made my response a little ambiguous so I'll elaborate a little.

First scenario is someone who doesn't want to pay taxes in their country if they apply, would probably accept a 3% loss, as opposed to a 10-40% loss in taxes.
Second scenario is someone who values their privacy and doesn't want to many deals made in the same fashion (exchanges, previous trades) might happily pay 3% to have another option.

Then there's the fact that the price can easily fluctuate this much either way so if you first have to get it to an exchange and pay any associated fees, it could be worth it to jump on this offer. Regardless people can come here and place whatever they want for their terms, they either find someone or they don't.

[jackg]

Is there a trusted and secure way of sending fiat without a chance of charge back? I may have 0.5btc by the end of the week but I'm not sure any transfer company is fully irriversible...

[jackg]

It might be best for you to list the country you're in actually. The only safe option is to go into the persons bank and make a cash deposit into their account. Almost everything else can be charged back and shouldn't really be trusted as companies anyway in most cases...

[FFrankie]

It might be best for you to list the country you're in actually. The only safe option is to go into the persons bank and make a cash deposit into their account. Almost everything else can be charged back and shouldn't really be trusted as companies anyway in most cases...

You can also send cash in mail, and I think, that if you send MG or WU in person and send cash you can not reverse it after you pick it up.


You could just use localbitcoins like everyone else   sooooometimes they have deals for market rate or even under

[jackg]

@killyou, I wouldn't trust cash through customs. Also, that was made illegal in the US wasn't it because it's what casascius got in bother with?

Sending internally is generally fine and you can send it in multiple packets. Western Union might be quite interesting then if you can pick up the cash physically...

You could try lbc if you meet in person the rates are quite nice... (booking a train to London can save you quite a bit too).
What currency do you use?

[jackg]

I have the 0.5. Can I start with a tiny amout and see how it goes. Maybe 10 or 100 euro? Just to test western union.

[jackg]

Ahh sorry I thought it was a relative fee. I'm not sure I'm comfortable doing it with a large amount in case there's an issue t hi ugh so I'm not sure what to do...

[bibop555]

If you want safe you can trade on coinbase an blockchain

[jackg]

I've been searching the Internet and you should be able to send €3000 as a deposit via swift for me to receive £2700 to my account. That might be better than WU as it goes direct.

[jackg]

https://www.lloydsbank.com/online-banking/benefits-online-banking/international-payments.asp#collapse1-1438975317843. Go down to the sending bit. You'd walk into the bank and ask them to send a SWIFT transfer to me from the cash you deposit there.

[majestyz5]

can you do f2f?

[majestyz5]

i cant pm you since we are both newbies in this forum we cant message each other would you send me your skype or discord ill add you ?