🔴Primedice.com ripped me off of 9.8 BTC🔴

[fortyseconds]

Primedice ripped me off. I had two deposits that were made on 5/17/2016.  One was for 14.2 BTC The other was for 9.8 BTC.   The one for 14.2 BTC took about 10 days to finally get credited to my account.   In other words I deposited 9.8 BTC and I never saw it added to my balance.  I could not place bets with it and I could not withdraw it.  This happened three years ago, and they are still in business.


The transaction number is :

e0060d9b03cd7aa6f003741faedaa31934a1c082982f3cc9c82c8100a79caae2

My username is:gforce37
My Primedice deposit address is: 1EyjEXrvUgKDipiDbimqR7zYwa6eenT3Z7

I can't believe they are still in business. What can be done for me to get a refund, or drive them out of business?

primedice.com = SCAM

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[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Primedice ripped me off. I had two deposits that were made on 5/17/2016.  One was for 14.2 BTC The other was for 9.8 BTC.   The one for 14.2 BTC took about 10 days to finally get credited to my account.   In other words I deposited 9.8 BTC and I never saw it added to my balance.  I could not place bets with it and I could not withdraw it.  This happened three years ago, and they are still in business.


The transaction number is :

e0060d9b03cd7aa6f003741faedaa31934a1c082982f3cc9c82c8100a79caae2

My username is:gforce37
My Primedice deposit address is: 1EyjEXrvUgKDipiDbimqR7zYwa6eenT3Z7

I can't believe they are still in business. What can be done for me to get a refund, or drive them out of business?

primedice.com = SCAM

This happened three years ago,

My legit question is that where were you all those days?

Anyway, if I summarize then there are two tx:
One 14.2 BTC
Another 9.8 BTC

You said this is the BTC address to deposit : 1EyjEXrvUgKDipiDbimqR7zYwa6eenT3Z7

However this tx (e0060d9b03cd7aa6f003741faedaa31934a1c082982f3cc9c82c8100a79caae2) shows the money went out from this (1EyjEXrvUgKDipiDbimqR7zYwa6eenT3Z7) address.

# Anyway, can you give the tx ID of the two btc amount that were sent from your address to the deposit address which is 1EyjEXrvUgKDipiDbimqR7zYwa6eenT3Z7

I could not place bets with it and I could not withdraw it.

# So 14.2 + 9.8 were never used and you never withdraw them too?

[Slow death]

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[fortyseconds]

My legit question is that where were you all those days?

I opened a ticket with primedice support within 48 hours.  The ticket number for the 14.2 BTC is 10908. The two deposits went to two different primedice accounts.  I wanted to deal with them one at a time.

I also made posts on Bitcointalk, here is one:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.msg16704880#msg16704880

They resolved one of the issues after 2 weeks or so.  During that time I experienced extreme stomach pain due to stress.  After weeks and months went by, they did not address the second deposit, they just stonewalled me.  I had to block it out of my mind as a way to prevent illness.

Anyway, if I summarize then there are two tx:
One 14.2 BTC yes
Another 9.8 BTC

Yes.  After about 10 days they credited my account 14.2 BTC plus 0.9 bonus BTC to one account, total of 15.1 BTC.  After I got this refund, I withdrew the funds.  When I tried to address the other account, then they stonewalled me.

You said this is the BTC address to deposit : 1EyjEXrvUgKDipiDbimqR7zYwa6eenT3Z7

However this tx (e0060d9b03cd7aa6f003741faedaa31934a1c082982f3cc9c82c8100a79caae2) shows the money went out from this (1EyjEXrvUgKDipiDbimqR7zYwa6eenT3Z7) address.

Yes.  Primedice controls the private keys to the deposit address. Look at all the deposits to that address, 1EyjEXrvUgKDipiDbimqR7zYwa6eenT3Z7.  Each time I deposited they move the funds right away, then they credited my account.  Except the last time. The last time they moved the funds and didn't credit my account.

can you give the tx ID of the two btc amount that were sent from your address to the deposit address which is 1EyjEXrvUgKDipiDbimqR7zYwa6eenT3Z7

9.8 BTC >  d9d788068fe1995562e923fed5645021416adc26308980bfed8dc6b29ba150ea
14.2 BTC > I have to look for more for this, but like I said this one was taken care of.

So 14.2 + 9.8 were never used and you never withdraw them too?

I am looking back at the support emails from that time and it looks like they credited the first account 15.1.  They gave me an extra 0.9 BTC, not 1.0.  Support said "We are very sorry this took so long. I will make sure you get a bonus with that deposit for waiting."

[fortyseconds]

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I already tried to get help from Stunna and I posted to the primedice thread 3 years ago and they didnt help me. Here is one of the posts:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.msg16704880#msg16704880

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Here are screen shots from my primedice account from that time. I can't login to it anymore, they disabled the account.


https://imgur.com/a/RR5REkx
https://imgur.com/a/gxnaidy
https://imgur.com/a/BambPf0
https://imgur.com/a/oLgCB6f

You can see the last deposit of 9.8 BTC shows up in my transaction history, but it was never added to my account balance.

[coinlocket$]

Looking here https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1EyjEXrvUgKDipiDbimqR7zYwa6eenT3Z7

The 9.8 Btc was accredited on the account and also withdrawn from it.

Do you are the only one who has access to the gambling PC?

There is any possibility that anyone else was using your pc?

[suchmoon]

Looking here https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1EyjEXrvUgKDipiDbimqR7zYwa6eenT3Z7

The 9.8 Btc was accredited on the account and also withdrawn from it.

That's probably not a withdrawal - it was moved by whoever owns the address, which the OP claims belongs to PrimeDice but it doesn't seem to be linked to any known PrimeDice wallets and there is no 14.2 BTC deposit to that address. I think the OP is not telling the whole story.

[coinlocket$]

Looking here https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1EyjEXrvUgKDipiDbimqR7zYwa6eenT3Z7

The 9.8 Btc was accredited on the account and also withdrawn from it.

That's probably not a withdrawal - it was moved by whoever owns the address, which the OP claims belongs to PrimeDice but it doesn't seem to be linked to any known PrimeDice wallets and there is no 14.2 BTC deposit to that address. I think the OP is not telling the whole story.

Wait a moment.
Are you telling me that they can move the funds whenever they want?

If yes we need to follow all movements and they seem to go here

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/16qfh6U6zBuWtqtjfRLWxAu8HyEJNiB5Nd

a 9000 moved BTC address.


Edit, maybe OP is using 2 accounts? and they have locked one?

[fortyseconds]

That's probably not a withdrawal - it was moved by whoever owns the address, which the OP claims belongs to PrimeDice but it doesn't seem to be linked to any known PrimeDice wallets and there is no 14.2 BTC deposit to that address. I think the OP is not telling the whole story.

The 14.2 BTC was deposited to a different Primedice account with a different deposit address.  I'll see if I can find that address.  Like I said though they finally credited my account for that plus a bonus 0.9 BTC

14.2 BTC deposited to account with username 'glapattack'
9.8 BTC deposited to account with username 'gforce37'

I'm not sure why you are interested in the 14.2 BTC part, which doesn't seem relevant, but here are screen shot showing from my transaction log
you can see the TXID starts with '64336eb'

https://imgur.com/a/nRu6WiZ


before they issued the credit to my account:
https://imgur.com/a/UYtyH4x

then after they issued a credit of 15.1 BTC

https://imgur.com/a/ggi2AKH

[coinlocket$]

The 14.2 BTC was deposited to a different Primedice account with a different deposit address.

I cannot find the TOS for primedice, assuing is the same of Stake.com

5.1. PERSONAL USE. The Service is intended solely for the User’s personal use. The User is only allowed to wager for his/her personal entertainment and may not create multiple accounts, including for the purpose of collusion and/or abuse of service.

Source
https://stake.com/?modal=terms


Idk what happens to founds in this case 9 BTC are a lot of money.

[fortyseconds]

I cannot find the TOS for primedice, assuing is the same of Stake.com

Not fair to quote TOS from a totally different site. BTW I placed hundreds of bets with my 2 accounts total of 107 BTC over several months. If they felt I violated TOS then fine, disable my account and give let me withdraw my funds. They never did that.  They never claimed that I violated TOS.  At one point one of the support said that It was a double spend.  That is not true at all. I asked for evidence that there was a double spend and they gave me nothing. Then they just stonewalled me.

Primedice.com = SCAMMERS

I can't believe they are still in business. I got ripped off by Mt. Gox and others, but they all went out of business. My friend was ripped off by Bitfinex, they gave him some kind of equity for debt swap.  Primedice ripped me off and they are still in business three years later. Unbelievable.  What can be done?  To add further insult to injury they closed my accounts due to 'inactivity'.  

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Wait a moment.
Are you telling me that they can move the funds whenever they want?

If yes we need to follow all movements and they seem to go here

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/16qfh6U6zBuWtqtjfRLWxAu8HyEJNiB5Nd

a 9000 moved BTC address.

Well you are seeing the pattern of a deposit then the coins are immediately moved. I'm not sure why they did it like that, but it was never a problem until that date 5/17/19.  Normally when the coins are moved my primedice account balance would be credited.  I would make a series of bets then I would withdraw funds.  

I have found my a long message thread with support person Mladen, which I now realize is Primedice CEO and founder Mladen Vuckovic.  He personally handled the missing 14.2 BTC and he credited my account with 15.1 BTC after 2 weeks or so of back-and-forth.  He said "Looks like it was everything ok with your account. One of your deposits did not show up on blockchain."  This is not true from what I saw on the blockchain.  The deposits confirmed immediately on the blockchain.  After this refund then he stonewalled me with regard to the other account.

maybe OP is using 2 accounts? and they have locked one?

I was using 2 accounts. One was username: gforce37 the other was username glapattack.  Now they completely eliminated both accounts.

EDIT

EDIT** Also, I never asked for a bonus 0.9 BTC Mladen gave that to me of his own accord.  I just want what is mine, what I deposited to *both* accounts.  He can take back the .9 BTC if he returns my 9.8 BTC

[sowns]

maybe OP is using 2 accounts? and they have locked one?

I was using 2 accounts. One was username: gforce37 the other was username glapattack.  Now they completely eliminated both accounts.

EDIT

EDIT** Also, I never asked for a bonus 0.9 BTC Mladen gave that to me of his own accord.  I just want what is mine, what I deposited to *both* accounts.  He can take back the .9 BTC if he returns my 9.8 BTC

Idk if Primedice actually seizes funds but that’d be a reason why they’d do it considering the clear breach of terms. Edit: Just kill me now goddamnit...

[coinlocket$]

I cannot find the TOS for primedice, assuing is the same of Stake.com

Not fair to quote TOS from a totally different site.

Arent Primedice and Stake owned by the same group of people? We have even links between them on their homepage so is pretty logical thinking that they use the same TOS.

[game-protect]

The law firm cooperating with Game Protect is willing to enforce it on a no cure no pay basis or if you wish also on a hourly rate basis.

Are you telling me that they can move the funds whenever they want?

If yes we need to follow all movements and they seem to go here

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/16qfh6U6zBuWtqtjfRLWxAu8HyEJNiB5Nd

a 9000 moved BTC address.

Seem to go there or it is possible to prove it?

[fortyseconds]

Did you try contacting the admin via email for official proof based statement?

Didn't I make that clear? I opened a ticket with primedice support within 48 hours.  The ticket number was 10908. I resolved one of the embezzlement issues with the now of Primedice, Mladen Vučković after 2 weeks of emails back-and-forth. Then when I brought up the second issue, the second embezzlement from another account, they cut off all contact.

Now they have closed both primedice accounts entirely and they embezzled the remaining 0.157 BTC in the 'gforce37' account.

[fortyseconds]

Arent Primedice and Stake owned by the same group of people? We have even links between them on their homepage so is pretty logical thinking that they use the same TOS.

The fact remains that they never made the claim that I violated TOS. I'm curious why you bring this up?  Do you think that an online operator like primedice has the right to embezzle customer funds if said customer *does* violate TOS.  TOS covers a lot of things.  If I created a primedice account, deposited 10 bitcoins, then got on the primedice chat and called someone a 'faggot', wouldn't I be violating TOS?  In that case do you think it is ethical or legal for primedice to then embezzle all of said customer's funds, then refuse all communication with the customer?

[fortyseconds]

The law firm cooperating with Game Protect is willing to enforce it on a no cure no pay basis or if you wish also on a hourly rate basis.

I *will* be taking whatever steps I need to to collect.

[coinlocket$]

The fact remains that they never made the claim that I violated TOS. I'm curious why you bring this up?  Do you think that an online operator like primedice has the right to embezzle customer funds if said customer *does* violate TOS.  TOS covers a lot of things.  If I created a primedice account, deposited 10 bitcoins, then got on the primedice chat and called someone a 'faggot', wouldn't I be violating TOS?  In that case do you think it is ethical and legal for primedice to then embezzle all customer funds, then refuse all communication with the customer?

-Could be an explanation on what happened to you.
-Depends, some regulated gambling site has the right to take the cheaters money (I'm almost sure sites like Pokerstars can do it) by the law and redistribute them to others play with freerolls bonus etc.

Btw don't pay anyone to help you here on the forum outside their support, you will only lose more money...