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October 07, 2019, 06:17:41 AM
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So, the conclusion here is “there are no long-term winning strategies out there”. No matter “common” or “individual”. But with a certain approach, good mathematical skills plus some experience, bankroll availability, discipline, as well as reasonable RoR acceptance and awareness of your own risks could be considered as a reasonable background and may evolve into a kind of hobby later.  That being said, “Researching” might be a way to entertain yourself , but never the method of  long-term guaranteed income.
It takes so much time reading everything... So to sum things up, what yoi want to say is that there's no long term strategies to win...

First, gambling itself is not really good for long term. It's just for entertainment... Different strategies may work when you're playing but it does not guarantee winning at all time. Athough you put much strategy on playing, luck was also always there. Meaning that strategies are not enough for you to win,  good analytical skill and a bit of luck is also needed.

PS. You should've also summarized your content by making it concise 'cause not everyone will give time reading everything.

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October 07, 2019, 06:30:24 AM
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But that few people who’s being happy in gambling won’t spend time reading a novel 😂
Maybe what you meant is “You Can’t Beat the Casino”?


Hahaha, yes, that is why I skip reading all of the long articles, but maybe next time, as I said.

It is tough to beat the casino, and the chances are not too big. A gambler knows that they cannot win from the casino, but they have a small chance to win at the right time and in the right place. But I don't think that is a myth to beat the casino. We all have seen that some people who play gambling can win in any game. That is because they have luck inside the games.

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October 08, 2019, 01:41:31 PM
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But that few people who’s being happy in gambling won’t spend time reading a novel 😂
Maybe what you meant is “You Can’t Beat the Casino”?


Hahaha, yes, that is why I skip reading all of the long articles, but maybe next time, as I said.

It is tough to beat the casino, and the chances are not too big. A gambler knows that they cannot win from the casino, but they have a small chance to win at the right time and in the right place. But I don't think that is a myth to beat the casino. We all have seen that some people who play gambling can win in any game. That is because they have luck inside the games.
It's false to say you can't beat the casino. One people can beat the casino. Basically when someone wins the jackpot he beats the casino, even if he lost one thousand times before...
But it's right to say all gamblers together can't beat the casino.

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October 08, 2019, 05:05:54 PM
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I don't know if you have written all that by yourself or you have copy-pasted it from social media/a website, but there certainly are some interesting facts. After speed reading the OP my conclusion is that you can't consistently beat the casino, even with applying complex strategies that were exemplified in the OP. Even if you could somehow get a small edge over the casino I think it is much more time effective to learn another skill. No doubt that if you can learn all those strategies you can do marvelous things in other industries as well.
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October 08, 2019, 06:40:31 PM
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I guess "bust casino" and "bust size" are not similar things! Now I'm disappointing... but not really because you wrote some really good points in your post.
It's just kinda too big so I didn't read everything to be honest.

Just... is this 100% your writing?
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October 11, 2019, 02:11:46 PM
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what did i just read ? the post was verry long   . how did you manage to write that all huh op ? or did you only copy and pasted it ? but you should include the reference link so that youl be good  . now lets go back on your question   .  to bust a casino is not a myth . you can get busted on a casino and a casino can possibly get busted if ever players got lucky to win at all times with big bets  . i think there is no myth but all are reality in a gambling casino 
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October 11, 2019, 02:25:22 PM
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what did i just read ? the post was verry long   . how did you manage to write that all huh op ? or did you only copy and pasted it ? but you should include the reference link so that youl be good  . now lets go back on your question   .  to bust a casino is not a myth . you can get busted on a casino and a casino can possibly get busted if ever players got lucky to win at all times with big bets  . i think there is no myth but all are reality in a gambling casino 
Trying to seek out on where on the world of this internet world he do copy up this one but i failed and cant find the source of it which means it either his own writing or just purely a clean rephrasing thing but well it doesnt matter since we can presume things basing on title itself so its not really that needed to read up whole.

Beating or busting up casinos? Dont force out yourself since this isnt possible.

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October 12, 2019, 12:16:18 AM
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But that few people who’s being happy in gambling won’t spend time reading a novel 😂
Maybe what you meant is “You Can’t Beat the Casino”?


Hahaha, yes, that is why I skip reading all of the long articles, but maybe next time, as I said.

It is tough to beat the casino, and the chances are not too big. A gambler knows that they cannot win from the casino, but they have a small chance to win at the right time and in the right place. But I don't think that is a myth to beat the casino. We all have seen that some people who play gambling can win in any game. That is because they have luck inside the games.
It's false to say you can't beat the casino. One people can beat the casino. Basically when someone wins the jackpot he beats the casino, even if he lost one thousand times before...
But it's right to say all gamblers together can't beat the casino.

A gambler could beat the casino only if he has luck. If he doesn't have luck, then he will only lose his money without a chance to recover his losses. This happens many times, many gamblers trying to win the money and they think that they can win from the casino. But the fact, it is very difficult to beat the casino. But I won't say that it is impossible because I guess that some people already won the casino but they don't tell others.

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October 12, 2019, 01:29:47 AM
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But that few people who’s being happy in gambling won’t spend time reading a novel 😂
Maybe what you meant is “You Can’t Beat the Casino”?


Hahaha, yes, that is why I skip reading all of the long articles, but maybe next time, as I said.

It is tough to beat the casino, and the chances are not too big. A gambler knows that they cannot win from the casino, but they have a small chance to win at the right time and in the right place. But I don't think that is a myth to beat the casino. We all have seen that some people who play gambling can win in any game. That is because they have luck inside the games.
It is definitely not a myth, you can beat the casinos but there are only two ways to do it, the first and the one used by most gamblers is to just hope that day is your lucky day, obviously you cannot really rely on that but despite the odds if enough people gamble some are bound to win.

The second way is to play a game in which your skill can influence the results, poker is one of those games, because even if the cards that you receive are random the way you play them can greatly influence the outcome and how much money you get, but as you may guess becoming good enough at playing poker is not easy at all.
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October 12, 2019, 04:08:23 PM
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But that few people who’s being happy in gambling won’t spend time reading a novel 😂
Maybe what you meant is “You Can’t Beat the Casino”?


Hahaha, yes, that is why I skip reading all of the long articles, but maybe next time, as I said.

It is tough to beat the casino, and the chances are not too big. A gambler knows that they cannot win from the casino, but they have a small chance to win at the right time and in the right place. But I don't think that is a myth to beat the casino. We all have seen that some people who play gambling can win in any game. That is because they have luck inside the games.
It is definitely not a myth, you can beat the casinos but there are only two ways to do it, the first and the one used by most gamblers is to just hope that day is your lucky day, obviously you cannot really rely on that but despite the odds if enough people gamble some are bound to win.

The second way is to play a game in which your skill can influence the results, poker is one of those games, because even if the cards that you receive are random the way you play them can greatly influence the outcome and how much money you get, but as you may guess becoming good enough at playing poker is not easy at all.
Id rather not wait for my luck to dictate and help me bust casinos. It's rather risky and it would make our mindset quite corrupt since believing you can bust the casino and earn everything you lost is well, just pure toxicity and stupidity in our part. This is why most casinos cant be busted, cause most people or most gamblers are the one busted rather than them doing the busting.
I guess "bust casino" and "bust size" are not similar things! Now I'm disappointing... but not really because you wrote some really good points in your post.
It's just kinda too big so I didn't read everything to be honest.

Just... is this 100% your writing?
Well, they both have busts. That's something to look forward to. And both of them can give you plus plus results. Win win situation right there.

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October 13, 2019, 12:17:19 AM
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But that few people who’s being happy in gambling won’t spend time reading a novel 😂
Maybe what you meant is “You Can’t Beat the Casino”?


Hahaha, yes, that is why I skip reading all of the long articles, but maybe next time, as I said.

It is tough to beat the casino, and the chances are not too big. A gambler knows that they cannot win from the casino, but they have a small chance to win at the right time and in the right place. But I don't think that is a myth to beat the casino. We all have seen that some people who play gambling can win in any game. That is because they have luck inside the games.
It is definitely not a myth, you can beat the casinos but there are only two ways to do it, the first and the one used by most gamblers is to just hope that day is your lucky day, obviously you cannot really rely on that but despite the odds if enough people gamble some are bound to win.

The second way is to play a game in which your skill can influence the results, poker is one of those games, because even if the cards that you receive are random the way you play them can greatly influence the outcome and how much money you get, but as you may guess becoming good enough at playing poker is not easy at all.

Gamblers are hope that they can have lucky in one day, so they still playing gambling. They know that by playing gambling, they risk the money, but some of them can accept it. Yes, some of them are winning, but unfortunately, the others lose.

Poker is one of the games that does not depend on the luck factor only, but it needs the skill to win. Perhaps, some gamblers can win the games by having high skills in a poker game, and they are making money. When many gamblers are playing in the poker game, and each of them has top skills, then that will depend on the luck itself to win. Each of them is competing with their abilities and hope that their luck will come and help them.

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October 13, 2019, 12:22:40 AM
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Why the hell are you writing (or copy pasting) such a long thread?
Nobody is going to read that novel. Grin
We all know that it's almost impossible to cheat a casino and it's 100% impossible to create the ultimate winning gambling strategy.Gambling is not about making money,it's about spending money(that you can afford to lose) for fun.

Checked it and it looks like a real deal and not a copy-paste job, you deserve to have a merit for doing such a long post but I guess some of us reading and commenting your post-run out of creating to give, but going back to your topic, any method is not going to work the very popular martingale method has been tested so many times but it always failed to deliver the good.
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October 13, 2019, 03:10:17 PM
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It is definitely not a myth, you can beat the casinos but there are only two ways to do it, the first and the one used by most gamblers is to just hope that day is your lucky day, obviously you cannot really rely on that but despite the odds if enough people gamble some are bound to win.

The second way is to play a game in which your skill can influence the results, poker is one of those games, because even if the cards that you receive are random the way you play them can greatly influence the outcome and how much money you get, but as you may guess becoming good enough at playing poker is not easy at all.
You have a very good point bro and I am so pleased with the second point. I fear anything that has to do with depending on luck and I know not everyone is destined to always get lucky but I believe in learning and I know you can be everything you want to become in life by determination and focus.

Poker games might be difficult to learn but it is much easier and dependable that those games of luck. There are a lot of gamblers that have beaten the house edge and so many are from poker games, it’s a game of expertise that even the house cannot manipulate. Rather than wasting time, efforts and money playing games of luck and hoping to become lucky someday, I thinks it’s better to just focus on improving in ones skills than relying on luck.

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October 13, 2019, 03:21:11 PM
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But that few people who’s being happy in gambling won’t spend time reading a novel 😂
Maybe what you meant is “You Can’t Beat the Casino”?


Hahaha, yes, that is why I skip reading all of the long articles, but maybe next time, as I said.

It is tough to beat the casino, and the chances are not too big. A gambler knows that they cannot win from the casino, but they have a small chance to win at the right time and in the right place. But I don't think that is a myth to beat the casino. We all have seen that some people who play gambling can win in any game. That is because they have luck inside the games.
It's false to say you can't beat the casino. One people can beat the casino. Basically when someone wins the jackpot he beats the casino, even if he lost one thousand times before...
But it's right to say all gamblers together can't beat the casino.
It's also about beating a casino on a regular basis, you know. Of course, you can go with your savings to a casino, play roulette once, placing the bet on, say, red, and double your money just like that. The thing is that you can't do it over and over again and succeed. But I tend to think that it's possible to be successful on regularly when it comes to games like poker where skills matter a lot. I have a friend who believes that this is not the case, and those people who are famous for being great players - well, they just exist because there is a certain possibility that even if winnings are random, someone will be winning almost all the time.

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October 14, 2019, 04:47:16 AM
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A gambler could beat the casino only if he has luck. If he doesn't have luck, then he will only lose his money without a chance to recover his losses. This happens many times, many gamblers trying to win the money and they think that they can win from the casino. But the fact, it is very difficult to beat the casino. But I won't say that it is impossible because I guess that some people already won the casino but they don't tell others.
I don’t believe that it’s all tied to luck, it’s unfortunate the aspect of being skilled has greatly been underrated and little wonder why everyone sees gambling as just a place to try their luck without ever think or planning of become better with skills which I don’t know if it is because they only see it as game of luck.

This mentality is mainly the reason we have so many failed and unsuccessful gamblers all over the world. Those who believe in skills in winning have been successfully beating the house edge and there are numerous lists of gamblers that have done this. They might not come out to say it because they are aware a lot of people believe in luck and nothing can ever be said to change what they believe.
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October 14, 2019, 05:23:38 AM
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The OP is too long I didn't read it word by word. Well, I read a paragraph or two, especially the conclusion. I guess the most important point is there.  Wink It is nice of you though that you made the most important points in bold fonts.

Anyway, to bust a casino is a quixotic act. In other words, unrealistic and pointless! Well, a few extremely brilliant card readers could at least attempt to do that, and even successfully at that. But only up to a certain extent, meaning they could make huge profit but short of busting the casino. Everything is under the nose in a casino. They could kick you out the moment they have suspicion on you.

 

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October 14, 2019, 05:55:01 AM
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Why the hell are you writing (or copy pasting) such a long thread?
Nobody is going to read that novel. Grin
We all know that it's almost impossible to cheat a casino and it's 100% impossible to create the ultimate winning gambling strategy.Gambling is not about making money,it's about spending money(that you can afford to lose) for fun.
He wrote this thread in checking.theres no proof of being copy pasted so OP spend time to make this novel more worth it for readers.

We cannot cheat casino but strategized is possible but you are right not for a long time.,because casino will surely detect the strategy and blocked or make preventive actions towards winning combinations

And you are also right that for a rightful gambler,enjoyment must be the objective and winning will be a bonus for reasonable playing

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October 16, 2019, 11:52:52 PM
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But that few people who’s being happy in gambling won’t spend time reading a novel 😂
Maybe what you meant is “You Can’t Beat the Casino”?


Hahaha, yes, that is why I skip reading all of the long articles, but maybe next time, as I said.

It is tough to beat the casino, and the chances are not too big. A gambler knows that they cannot win from the casino, but they have a small chance to win at the right time and in the right place. But I don't think that is a myth to beat the casino. We all have seen that some people who play gambling can win in any game. That is because they have luck inside the games.

What if the myth to beat the casino is the knowledge of mathematics and probabilities? As you know, everyone who's in a highschool already studied how math uncovers the possibilities of winning in a game, or for something to happen. If we will try our best to rely on computation, there would be a chance that we can take advantage of most of the games that we are playing in some gambling platforms.
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October 17, 2019, 11:37:23 AM
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But that few people who’s being happy in gambling won’t spend time reading a novel 😂
Maybe what you meant is “You Can’t Beat the Casino”?


Hahaha, yes, that is why I skip reading all of the long articles, but maybe next time, as I said.

It is tough to beat the casino, and the chances are not too big. A gambler knows that they cannot win from the casino, but they have a small chance to win at the right time and in the right place. But I don't think that is a myth to beat the casino. We all have seen that some people who play gambling can win in any game. That is because they have luck inside the games.

What if the myth to beat the casino is the knowledge of mathematics and probabilities? As you know, everyone who's in a highschool already studied how math uncovers the possibilities of winning in a game, or for something to happen. If we will try our best to rely on computation, there would be a chance that we can take advantage of most of the games that we are playing in some gambling platforms.
Casinos put some precautionary measures to make sure that they are not going to lose on some kind of strategy like that. Simply shuffling the deck in every game will be impossible to use counting cards on blackjack or just stacking it to 8 decks, and shuffling every half of it is used will beat any strategy that can be used. It is possible to use strategy in some games, but every casinos are aware of it, so they are using some ways to counter it.

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October 17, 2019, 11:48:59 AM
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I guess "bust casino" and "bust size" are not similar things! Now I'm disappointing... but not really because you wrote some really good points in your post.
It's just kinda too big so I didn't read everything to be honest.

Just... is this 100% your writing?
so you read that all stuff?really?how good of you mate nice long thread(novel)

The OP is too long I didn't read it word by word. Well, I read a paragraph or two, especially the conclusion. I guess the most important point is there.  Wink It is nice of you though that you made the most important points in bold fonts.
like what i did mate,thats a long novel to read and some paragraph is enough to justify what OP is trying to impose.
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Anyway, to bust a casino is a quixotic act. In other words, unrealistic and pointless! Well, a few extremely brilliant card readers could at least attempt to do that, and even successfully at that. But only up to a certain extent, meaning they could make huge profit but short of busting the casino. Everything is under the nose in a casino. They could kick you out the moment they have suspicion on you.

 
but just like what post above said,its possible if you hit a jackpot but before that happens surely the Casino had already Won x10 of that said jackpot amount so in this means we really cannot beat them but its casino who beats us always and forever
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