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I'm quite familiar with the crypto world and can differentiate things. But I also look for things in internet.
If you do a google search with bitcoin, bitcoin.com comes in the second place. And most people also has a habit of looking for topic.com which leads to bitcoin.com. But the site bitcoin.com in many instances refers Bitcoincash as Bitcoin while they call the longest chain of Bitcoin as Bitcoin Core. This way they are presenting bitcoincash as the real bitcoin. And the more you see lie, the more it looks real.
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I'm quite familiar with the crypto world and can differentiate things. But I also look for things in internet.
If you do a google search with bitcoin, bitcoin.com comes in the second place. And most people also has a habit of looking for topic.com which leads to bitcoin.com. But the site bitcoin.com in many instances refers Bitcoincash as Bitcoin while they call the longest chain of Bitcoin as Bitcoin Core. This way they are presenting bitcoincash as the real bitcoin. And the more you see lie, the more it looks real.
I hate to admit it but this Roger Ver (scammer) is too much into his bullshit that he is doing this shameless marketing. He is using the fame of Bitcoin and misleading the new people in this industry.

I have seen a lot of newbies buying BitcoinCash thinking it's Bitcoin. I am not sure how we can stop this misleading marketing. Bcash is just another altcoin.

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May 19, 2019, 04:05:07 PM
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No.

If the .com domain was pro core, those who don't like Core right now would use it against Bitcoin. "Bitcoin is centralized."

Instead, the opposition have enough media power, one can say it is a lot more than Core's, yet they still fail against the Core. It is because there is a reality and no amount of media power can change that.

Bitcoin's way of scaling puts security&decentralization first,

Others like SV or BAB doesn't care about security or decentralization. People who promote those shitcoins (like Roger) are empty heads without any technical knowledge. They act just like a used car salesman would. Many huge promises but the reality is they are after your money. They want to dump that shitty car on you. They don't give a fuck about security.

They are fooling&scamming newbies into bcash and that's not a good thing but hey, this is internet, It isn't like Bitcoin is invisible and BAB is everywhere. On whatever marketcap site you use, you see bitcoin at the top. Not bcash. If you still fall for the Roger propaganda, you deserve to lose money.




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May 19, 2019, 04:24:08 PM
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the best way to view it without getting into social drama is this
no one should own "bitcoin" neither the cash crew, not the core crew.

yes there is alot of drama from the core crew trying to point finger in a subtle underhanded way to try gaining control of 'bitcoin'
 but ultimatelly no one should own it.

as for differentiating the 2 without drama..
think of bitcoin core(btc) as american dollar
think of bitcoin cash(bch) as canadian dollar
think of bitcoin sv(bsv) as australian dollar(well zimbabwe dollar)

that way conceptually in your mind you realise there is no single owner of 'dollar' but then learn to grasp the fact that different communities have their own 'dollar' and locally in their communities they just communicate it as such as 'dollar'

its not about causing a civil war. its about communication understanding.. EG if you walk into a canadian retailer and see something priced at $10. you would be correct to just presume that in that community the price is canadian dollar and not zimbabwe. its not a fight over who should own bitcoin. because no one should. its just about learning that core do not own 'bitcoin' just like america dont own 'dollar'

if the bch/sv and others reset the blockchain to genesis and changed the source code to change the function of their coin right to the start then none of them have the right to call themselves bitcoin as none of them have any evidence of linkage to satoshi

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May 19, 2019, 04:32:51 PM
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I'm quite familiar with the crypto world and can differentiate things. But I also look for things in internet.
If you do a google search with bitcoin, bitcoin.com comes in the second place. And most people also has a habit of looking for topic.com which leads to bitcoin.com. But the site bitcoin.com in many instances refers Bitcoincash as Bitcoin while they call the longest chain of Bitcoin as Bitcoin Core. This way they are presenting bitcoincash as the real bitcoin. And the more you see lie, the more it looks real.

This is an old issue and it won't end.Roger Ver owns bitcoin.com and he won't sell it to some bitcoin core supporter.Many newbies will fall victims of this misleading scam, if they don't do enough research about the topic.I thinking about a way to shut down bitcoin.com,but this can be only temporary.

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I'm quite familiar with the crypto world and can differentiate things. But I also look for things in internet.
If you do a google search with bitcoin, bitcoin.com comes in the second place. And most people also has a habit of looking for topic.com which leads to bitcoin.com. But the site bitcoin.com in many instances refers Bitcoincash as Bitcoin while they call the longest chain of Bitcoin as Bitcoin Core. This way they are presenting bitcoincash as the real bitcoin. And the more you see lie, the more it looks real.

That's indeed a challenge for the absolute newbies those who are trying to get into bitcoin. They may be fooled by this website and they may think that bitcoin cash as the main bitcoin. I believe that's the intention of Roger to pretend BCH as the main bitcoin and it's truly a loss for us to loose that domain and information.

its not about causing a civil war. its about communication understanding.. EG if you walk into a canadian retailer and see something priced at $10. you would be correct to just presume that in that community the price is canadian dollar and not zimbabwe. its not a fight over who should own bitcoin. because no one should. its just about learning that core do not own 'bitcoin' just like america dont own 'dollar'

if the bch/sv and others reset the blockchain to genesis and changed the source code to change the function of their coin right to the start then none of them have the right to call themselves bitcoin as none of them have any evidence of linkage to satoshi

That's what the the thread says, mate! When a complete newbie will search Google about bitcoin and if bitcoin.com appears at the 2nd position, they will tend to believe that BCH is the main bitcoin instead of the bitcoin core and that's exactly where the danger lies! Even if there are many other resources to check their facts, it may take more time for a complete newbie to understand.

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I'm quite familiar with the crypto world and can differentiate things. But I also look for things in internet.
If you do a google search with bitcoin, bitcoin.com comes in the second place. And most people also has a habit of looking for topic.com which leads to bitcoin.com. But the site bitcoin.com in many instances refers Bitcoincash as Bitcoin while they call the longest chain of Bitcoin as Bitcoin Core. This way they are presenting bitcoincash as the real bitcoin. And the more you see lie, the more it looks real.

This is an old issue and it won't end.Roger Ver owns bitcoin.com and he won't sell it to some bitcoin core supporter.Many newbies will fall victims of this misleading scam, if they don't do enough research about the topic.I thinking about a way to shut down bitcoin.com,but this can be only temporary.

i am not 'cash' camp nor core camp. as i think no one should own 'bitcoin'
but since core own btc rule proposals btc is not the same as the 2009-2015 intention/ethos. thus its just best to treat things as separate communities/nations of something that was unified years ago

but if you take 5 steps back away from the social drama and ask yourself this.. you may see that things are not scammy. but just social drama provocations

if you have $10k.
if you 'accidentally' bought bch, you would get 24.3 coin
if you 'accidentally' bought btc, you would get 1.26 coin

when realising the mistake of not understanding which community/nation you bought into. you could just convert one into the other and be equal.

the only time there would be a scam is if they were selling bch where you would only get 1.26bch per $10k right now. which is not the case

I DO NOT TRADE OR ACT AS ESCROW ON THIS FORUM EVER.
Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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May 19, 2019, 04:49:32 PM
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Despite they are absolutely pro bitcoin cash (their "real bitcoin")  Grin , I don't see any attempt to post fake informations about bitcoin core.
Otherwise they can just foolish only noobs with their hyped news... (e.g. "You can use sms for send bitcoincash") .

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I'm quite familiar with the crypto world and can differentiate things. But I also look for things in internet.
If you do a google search with bitcoin, bitcoin.com comes in the second place. And most people also has a habit of looking for topic.com which leads to bitcoin.com. But the site bitcoin.com in many instances refers Bitcoincash as Bitcoin while they call the longest chain of Bitcoin as Bitcoin Core. This way they are presenting bitcoincash as the real bitcoin. And the more you see lie, the more it looks real.

This is an old issue and it won't end.Roger Ver owns bitcoin.com and he won't sell it to some bitcoin core supporter.Many newbies will fall victims of this misleading scam, if they don't do enough research about the topic.I thinking about a way to shut down bitcoin.com,but this can be only temporary.

i am not 'cash' camp nor core camp. as i think no one should own 'bitcoin' but if you take 5 steps back away from the social drama and ask yourself this.. you may see that things are not scammy. but just social drama provocations

if you have $10k.
if you 'accidentally' bought bch, you would get 24.3 coin
if you 'accidentally' bought btc, you would get 1.26 coin

when realising the mistake of not understanding which community/nation you bought into. you could just convert one into the other and be equal.

the only time there would be a scam is if they were selling bch where you would only get 1.26bch per $10k right now. which is not the case

Agree, to this. However the problem is the mis leading information that newbies will get if they will use google to define bitcoin and to directly define bch as the real bitcoin. Since I had started to know about bitcoin there was only bitcoin core. Newbies must just be cautious and verify thru other sources about the information they get from google.

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May 19, 2019, 05:07:44 PM
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I'm quite familiar with the crypto world and can differentiate things. But I also look for things in internet.
If you do a google search with bitcoin, bitcoin.com comes in the second place. And most people also has a habit of looking for topic.com which leads to bitcoin.com. But the site bitcoin.com in many instances refers Bitcoincash as Bitcoin while they call the longest chain of Bitcoin as Bitcoin Core. This way they are presenting bitcoincash as the real bitcoin. And the more you see lie, the more it looks real.

This is an old issue and it won't end.Roger Ver owns bitcoin.com and he won't sell it to some bitcoin core supporter.Many newbies will fall victims of this misleading scam, if they don't do enough research about the topic.I thinking about a way to shut down bitcoin.com,but this can be only temporary.

i am not 'cash' camp nor core camp. as i think no one should own 'bitcoin' but if you take 5 steps back away from the social drama and ask yourself this.. you may see that things are not scammy. but just social drama provocations

if you have $10k.
if you 'accidentally' bought bch, you would get 24.3 coin
if you 'accidentally' bought btc, you would get 1.26 coin

when realising the mistake of not understanding which community/nation you bought into. you could just convert one into the other and be equal.

the only time there would be a scam is if they were selling bch where you would only get 1.26bch per $10k right now. which is not the case

Agree, to this. However the problem is the mis leading information that newbies will get if they will use google to define bitcoin and to directly define bch as the real bitcoin. Since I had started to know about bitcoin there was only bitcoin core. Newbies must just be cautious and verify thru other sources about the information they get from google.

but since core own btc rule proposals btc is not the same as the 2009-2015 intention/ethos of 'bitcoin'. thus its just best to treat things as separate communities/nations of something that was unified years ago

to me btc (core) is like the 'petro'/USD of dollar (the more popular world wide and internationally talked about. but instead of trying to proclaim btc(core) as THE one and only bitcoin. is just as bad as calling bch(cash) THE one and only bitcoin

things would have been diffrent if core fans and devs didnt institute themselves as the power house years ago, and perform rekt campaigns. if they just listened to the community as a whole and stayed as a united single community of multiple brands all working on the same consensus, then things would have been simpler

core having the mindset of "if u dont like our rules "f**k off" is cores own fault

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May 19, 2019, 05:18:13 PM
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As much is I dislike BCH's marketing on bitcoin.com, it's the job of the researcher to do ample of research, not just read from one site and that's it. I think it's uncommon for new people in the space to think that bitcoin.com is the "official" website of bitcoin, but 30 minutes of research would most likely immediately inform them that bitcoin has no CEO or owner.

I wonder how much that domain is though. I'm 100% sure it's very very expensive.

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I'm quite familiar with the crypto world and can differentiate things. But I also look for things in internet.
If you do a google search with bitcoin, bitcoin.com comes in the second place. And most people also has a habit of looking for topic.com which leads to bitcoin.com. But the site bitcoin.com in many instances refers Bitcoincash as Bitcoin while they call the longest chain of Bitcoin as Bitcoin Core. This way they are presenting bitcoincash as the real bitcoin. And the more you see lie, the more it looks real.
The first question you ask is does bitcoin have an official website, because is don't think bitcoin have a working website but the developer's of bitcoin cash where smart to have created the bitcoin.com and have filled it with information about bitcoin cash and referring to bitcoin as bitcoin core.
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May 19, 2019, 05:39:13 PM
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It doesn't even matter the fact that it's named BITCOIN CASH means it's not Bitcoins as simple as that and this is something that even people agree with , everyone already knows , that site just seems to support something that is actually what they like therefore it cannot be taken as anything other than that, people might search , they might think that it's the real Bitcoins , but let's be honest it's just a forked one when they are Into this business for a long time they will realize this instantly also what would you do about the price difference ?



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I'm quite familiar with the crypto world and can differentiate things. But I also look for things in internet.
If you do a google search with bitcoin, bitcoin.com comes in the second place. And most people also has a habit of looking for topic.com which leads to bitcoin.com. But the site bitcoin.com in many instances refers Bitcoincash as Bitcoin while they call the longest chain of Bitcoin as Bitcoin Core. This way they are presenting bitcoincash as the real bitcoin. And the more you see lie, the more it looks real.
I don't think it's much of a loss at all. Most people don't even go to bitcoin.com or use it as a source of information, I don't think that most new users use Bitcoin.com or any similar website either. Worst case is that they get suckered into BCH for a while and then get woke on the fact that Cash isn't the same as Core. I know that, at least when I started with Bitcoin, this forum was one of the first places I came to and started using when I was hunting for information. Still use it almost exclusively, although some news sites like CoinDesk and the like are part of my reading lists.

I don't really care about domain games either. Some people take it as an important front, but realistically I can't see it mattering too much. Bitcoin Cash doesn't have enough of a userbase, growth-wise or normally, to make the loss of one domain important enough to matter. At least, I can't see it mattering enough now or in the near future to be concerned about it.
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May 19, 2019, 08:30:55 PM
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If you will rely everything on google, you will just get confused because not everything you read there is true and is real.
Bitcoin would always be bitcoin and I guess the misleading part there is when Bch and some other coins connect their
information with bitcoin. This forum would be a lot better becsuse you will be able to know about bitcoin here direct from users.

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Offcourse it's a big setback and it's shame that Roger Ver owns this domain. Maybe it's not a big problem for us - experienced people as we know that Bitcoin don't have official website and CEO. I just looked at Google search result and guess what - Bitcoin.com website shown at the top and Bitcoin.org is only second. Where new people who don't know nothing about Bitcoin will go - probably to website which are shown at the top. And probably information there can confuse - what is Bitcoin, what is Bitcoin Core and etc. And we heard some cases when people bought Bitcoin Cash thinking that they are buying real Bitcoin. I'm not even talking about propaganda against Bitcoin that is published on Bitcoin.com.
What can be done to change situation. Probably nothing unfortunately...




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May 19, 2019, 09:04:14 PM
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This is a big issue, why will Roger keeps misleading new investors! have people not burn enough from investing in bitcoincash? no matter how much we try to beat down the truth, it still finds a way to flow atop like a suppress water flow, when bitcoin moons heavily investors of BCH will realized they have been sold a false tale.

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I don't see a problem here. What if .com was owned by core but all other were owned by BCH? Should we keep hunting for them to buy them all out?
Many companies and projects use different domains with governments using their own .gov and .org and .info being very common among big companies and startups. There's no rule saying that you need to have a .com domain to be legit and popular.

Roger did a lot of bad by calling BCH bitcoin and BTC bitcoin core but he also got bashed for it.

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this is shameful. how can someone be so cruel to bitcoin? I am sure he has also made a lot of profit from bitcoin and as it goes he is not against bitcoin and not even that. he is misleading people against bitcoin. we can not blame newbies about it but can expect them to switch to real bitcoin as soon as possible or else they are gonna lose a lot of money.

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May 19, 2019, 09:23:44 PM
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I'm quite familiar with the crypto world and can differentiate things. But I also look for things in internet.
If you do a google search with bitcoin, bitcoin.com comes in the second place. And most people also has a habit of looking for topic.com which leads to bitcoin.com. But the site bitcoin.com in many instances refers Bitcoincash as Bitcoin while they call the longest chain of Bitcoin as Bitcoin Core. This way they are presenting bitcoincash as the real bitcoin. And the more you see lie, the more it looks real.
You really cannot do anything about the domain name, i am sure the bitcoin community had enough funds to purchase that domain if they wanted as i am sure everyone would have donated for that cause, but instead Roger Ver purchased that domain and he can do anything with the domain he purchased and if he supports bitcoin cash there is nothing you can do with it, until they scam some users you cannot raise anything negative against them which is highly unlikely .

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