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Question: What is the best way to crowdfund nowadays?
ICO - 2 (28.6%)
STO - 4 (57.1%)
SAFT - 0 (0%)
ILP - 0 (0%)
IPO - 1 (14.3%)
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May 21, 2019, 08:10:20 AM
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One token is issued as a security and it is owned and represents the performance of the company and you can even get dividends.  Works very much like a stock.  The others are just usage of the network and sold to users once the network is live.  STOs are the way to go moving forward.  
EXCEPT in crypto, there isn't a secondary market for them so they're ultimately useless. Companies can go under within the time it takes for them to get listed.
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May 21, 2019, 09:08:39 AM
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There's no "safest bet".All crypto related projects come with a very high risk.Just don't think that you could make any money from crypto startups.Just put your money in them (a really small amount) because you like idea behind the project,not because you want to make a ROI.
IPOs are more regulated and expensive(in order to protect the investors),that's why only big companies can afford listing an IPO.

I am agree, there is no safest bet in investment field, every investment have risk and sometimes higher than others. IPOs mostly in stocks market and i think its risky too if we are looking on Uber IPO.
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May 21, 2019, 09:14:17 AM
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Abbreviations are increasing. A new name for life in SAFT, I think. I'm choosing to use IEO as its current system.

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May 21, 2019, 09:18:41 AM
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First time I hear about SAFT. This must be something new. In fact, developments on this issue continue without stopping. IEO is also new in this regard. How everyone affected by binance in the bear market by means of IEO, everyone is looking for it.
Same here, I even google what that means and based on my research its just like a private investments for accredited investors. ICOs are dead, no hype and no investors because of shady/scam projects. STO is still too early, there have been some problems in a legal aspects. My money is on IEO right now, its where are the trend and hype is.
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May 22, 2019, 09:44:35 AM
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I know of IPO which was the original public offering before ICO came to make IPO irrelevant, but for other ones you mentioned, I must confess to you that this would be the first time I will be hearing about them, and I guess that I still have lots of things to learn in this industry.

Well,  based on the little knowledge that I have between STO and ICO, STO is still for sure the safest means of investment as it is backed up by Sec and also being regulated, so it becomes very impossible for scammers to penetrate STO system, but when you talk of most profitable investment, then there is no king like ICO.
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May 22, 2019, 09:54:35 AM
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Seriously whatever terminologies we use to conduct a crowdsale it wouldn't change the fact that people already lose trust to it and whatever hype they made they'll just end up shitty afterwards.

I'd rather to buy more bitcoin or at least bet on gambling sites even it have slim chances of profit but at least I made fun and enjoyed. Not a hater of ICO but I'm just being realistic and practical.  Grin
Permit me to disagree with you lady, before the invention of ICO, there exist IPO and IPO has been a very effective means of raising fund for rejects and it has never been in the history of IPO that investors is being scammed, because whatever project you invest in has a physical location, the only thing common to all of them is project failing, but the chances of getting a failed project in IPO is very low compared to ICO.

It was when ICO came that we started having the issue of scam and shitty projects, which is why I believe that STO will be another great safe way of investment which is quite similar to IPO, but running in blockchain and being regulated by SEC.
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May 22, 2019, 10:07:34 AM
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First time I hear about SAFT. This must be something new. In fact, developments on this issue continue without stopping. IEO is also new in this regard. How everyone affected by binance in the bear market by means of IEO, everyone is looking for it.

IEO is nothing new actually, i mean the name is just new. Icos orchestrated by exchanges just were just called normal icos. Bitrex did them, along with some very shady exchanges.
SAFT is new to me too, i had to google that as well, but it seems that even though the names change, there's really nothing new going on.

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May 22, 2019, 10:17:21 AM
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I voted STO for an obvious reason, that this is not the most popular and people consider this as the safest, but I'm surprised that there is a vote for ICO, ICO's are all messed up the scam sections are full of ICO that run away with investors money and ICO will become a thing of the past within two years if no regulations comes.

And SAFT is something I never read before will check this one.

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May 22, 2019, 06:31:01 PM
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Well, ICO is for decentralized projects in my opinion.  It is the most appropriate way to fund a true blockchain projects.  It is full of scams due to its nature, and due to fact we are still in early stage of ico.  I believe it will eventually get better.
 
You cannot use other ways of fundraising and expect to be decentralized, immutable, trustless etc
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May 22, 2019, 07:34:59 PM
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STO remain the best bet in my opinion.. The fact that unlike ICOs. STO takes legal compliance into consideration makes it a safer investment option. Providing dividends based on revenue gotten from the platform gives STO investors better investment opportunity..

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i think if we talking about the safest the winer is STO.
like the name STO is Secure Token Offering that mean if STO is have an high level security system with STO Token.
for ICO is not safe anymore for now, becareful if you interested with some ICO.

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May 22, 2019, 07:59:56 PM
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What is SAFT? this is the first time I've heard it.

The point is to talk about the type of investment in crypto right? nowadays people might prefer IEO compared to other types of investment, because IEO is popular now. and they say it's safer.
The IEO offers more profits according to investors (although I don't agree). if I personally might be enough to choose ICO, the reason is because initially the definition of crypto was anonymous. not as it is now, you have to do KYC anywhere.

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May 22, 2019, 08:00:09 PM
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Abbreviations are increasing. A new name for life in SAFT, I think. I'm choosing to use IEO as its current system.
for now the IEO is indeed one of the new breakthroughs in addition to ICO which has a tremendous appeal so that many investors switch to the IEO because they have their own exchanges and also the risk of fraud is smaller than ICO. maybe that is the main reason why the IEO is much interested now
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May 22, 2019, 08:02:39 PM
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So you want to generalize all project? It think different subject have different type, method, and approach to conduct a crowdfunding. We can't apply something to other that easy. It may have different result which lead us to an answer "there is no best method".

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I do not think there is anything safe in this unregulated crowdsale market, we should be ready for unexpecyed scams and frauds untill their is some regulator and we should keep in mind that all these investments are highly risky.

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I do not think there is anything safe in this unregulated crowdsale market, we should be ready for unexpecyed scams and frauds untill their is some regulator and we should keep in mind that all these investments are highly risky.
It seems like that. Indeed there is no risky investment. If you don't really think about it before investing, certainly not what makes you get a higher risk. That is why before you invest anywhere, you have to think first about investing, which in your opinion is lower risk and also the project you want to invest whether you have analyzed it first.
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May 22, 2019, 08:31:13 PM
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There is not a specific model that guarantees bigger profits, it's not about the model but about the project. In addition to this, a little luck is needed regarding the moment when they launch their project, it's very important not to get caught by a big dump and a bear market.
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May 23, 2019, 08:01:38 AM
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It seems people nowadays don't even get themselves into ICO's anymore because of the lack of hype and shady projects surfacing. Now there is always something new under the table like STOs, or ILP's, and now SAFTs. Giant companies like Bitmain and Telegram used IPOs to raise funds, Kodak used a SAFT, and other large blockchain based businesses used ICOs. What is the safest bet and how can you guarantee a positive ROI going thru these crowdfunding platforms? I have a hat that says 'Make ICO's Great Again' even tho that's definitely not possible.

"With an ICO the founders of a crypto startup could raise money without diluting their own shares in the company.

The problem with ICOs is that literally anyone with a whitepaper, a slick-looking website, and an idea could launch one and begin raising funds.

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Throw in confusion over governmental regulation, with regulators themselves admitting that ICOs can begin life as a security and transform into another asset type down the line, and it’s easy to see why the ICO craze has quickly dropped off."

Sub-question: whatever crowdfunding idea you voted for, why did you vote for it?


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I rather go for STOs that ICO because I have invested in so many ICO project since last year up until now and I don't really have anything to write home about because all of them always turns out to become a shitcoin or the value is below ICO price after waiting for months to see the coin hit the exchange, this has been so frustrating and it made me gave up on all ICO because I believe that I would continue to have same experience over and over again.

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June 05, 2019, 08:03:43 AM
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I just recommend IEO since IEO is the most safest way to invest in the cryptocurrency world. You can guarantee your profit there.

Tell me, how many IEOs have you joined to even recommend it?

Guaranteed? Don't ever say such word in the world of cryptocurrency or other types of investments.
Do you have any data of how many IEOs were completed? Have you seen the price of the token/coin immediately after IEO?

Maybe he used the wrong words especially as he sort of guaranteed profit. This is the wild west tbh and no one can assure another of making positive returns.
I however understand where he is coming from as I've found IEOs to be very convenient.
I look out especially for those with applicability to our already existing reality and go all in. A perfect example will be the successful ECOMI project, currently making all the right moves that'll lead to adoption.
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June 05, 2019, 09:34:47 AM
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right now IEO is the hottest one among them but it is nowhere near heated and hyped up as ICOs in 2017 because they are the continuation of the same scam under a different disguise but because of that disguise they have gained a short term viability where they scam people for that period of time before they join their predecessors and die slowly to disappear completely from the market.

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