[Ban Appeal] bill gator

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I'm waiting for the troll posse to start with the "why isn't bill gator not tagged for buying his account?" posts.

say what?

I wrote that before I realized that bill gator got mega-negged just now. 

If anyone counters, I'll counter the counter: Say no to account dealers. To make matters worse, it was bought primarily for shitposting which he has been doing. No thanks.

You know I say no to account dealers, but I said months ago after the iluvbitcoins debacle that I would only be tagging them from then on, with no exceptions for mitigating circumstances--and I'm sticking to that.  Of course I respect your opinion and I'm not going to counter any feedback, which I've previously said I'm not a fan of anyway. 

As far as the shitposting goes, I haven't taken a look at bg's post history but he got accepted into the Chipmixer campaign, so the quality of his posts can't be that bad.  I certainly know he can write coherently and isn't a typical sig spammer by any means. 

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[TMAN]

Before you guys tagged him, does any of you have a solid proof that the OP is bill gator himself?
Looks like a scandal planned by Lauda and Tman to remove people who doesn't lick their ass.A made up post.

Playing politics on an online forum, get out of your basements you fucking incel virgins.Get a life!

Doing well on forum politics with such a new account.

[Lauda]

I wrote that before I realized that bill gator got mega-negged just now.  
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As far as the shitposting goes, I haven't taken a look at bg's post history but he got accepted into the Chipmixer campaign, so the quality of his posts can't be that bad.  I certainly know he can write coherently and isn't a typical sig spammer by any means.  

They can be bad also when they are forced. This reminds me first of aTriz then of HabBear. Bill gator was also an unwelcome addition to the collectibles section. The mentioned is not a natural post, but a forced I'm-not-a-spammer post:

Originally it pissed me off in collectibles as there is no need at all for 200 word posts in an auction thread. Now it seems his excuses are as long as his fucking posts.

[mikhaelsky]

Before you guys tagged him, does any of you have a solid proof that the OP is bill gator himself?
Looks like a scandal planned by Lauda and Tman to remove people who doesn't lick their ass.A made up post.

Playing politics on an online forum, get out of your basements you fucking incel virgins.Get a life!

Doing well on forum politics with such a new account.

You are like those dogs in the book lol

[minifrij]

Imagine plagiarizing, being let off with a temp ban, and then still appealing. I must say, I kind of expected a bit better.

[Lauda]

You are like those dogs in the book lol

How dare you pajeet! I am a cat.

Imagine plagiarizing, being let off with a temp ban, and then still appealing. I must say, I kind of expected a bit better.

Although I wonder why some people get 1 year and others 2 years.

[suchmoon]

Imagine plagiarizing, being let off with a temp ban, and then still appealing. I must say, I kind of expected a bit better.

Maybe he's hoping to get back into the Chipmixer campaign if he can get the ban "annulled", as opposed to admitting the fuckup and serving the sentence.

Although I wonder why some people get 1 year and others 2 years.

Cock sucking

[TMAN]

Cock sucking

Who’s cock? Genuinely interested as I might want the job if it comes with free blowjobs

[Quickseller]

Before you guys tagged him, does any of you have a solid proof that the OP is bill gator himself?
Looks like a scandal planned by Lauda and Tman to remove people who doesn't lick their ass.A made up post.

Playing politics on an online forum, get out of your basements you fucking incel virgins.Get a life!

This post is a prime example of totalitarianism on this forum.
Reminds me of The animal farm.

I am curious if there is evidence the OP is the same as Bill Gator. The answer would be especially telling considering the reaction of certain members here.

[TMAN]

Before you guys tagged him, does any of you have a solid proof that the OP is bill gator himself?
Looks like a scandal planned by Lauda and Tman to remove people who doesn't lick their ass.A made up post.

Playing politics on an online forum, get out of your basements you fucking incel virgins.Get a life!

This post is a prime example of totalitarianism on this forum.
Reminds me of The animal farm.

I am curious if there is evidence the OP is the same as Bill Gator. The answer would be especially telling considering the reaction of certain members here.

Read the OP, bulshit bulshit 32 words when 2 will do, it’s like a tramp stamp on a cheap woman, I can smell the shitty perfume from the other side of the earth.

[BitcoinSupremo]

I am not sad at all and I think The Pharma is wrong this time, there are tons of other users including me that are being bombarded with red trust for the same thing bill gator did in 2015, I did it in early 2016 so the time doesn't differ much. Oh and I don't do shitposting.

This doesn't mean that this forum is not in total communism and you know what communism has in common with this forum. In a communist regime the party(DT in this case) are the ones who decide what happens to the country (forum in this case). A lot of ass lickers (so called spies or "eye of the party" in totalitarian regimes like communists) do this in order to get a job (a signature acceptance in the forum case). All others who do not agree with the party get different punishments from the lowest up to the capital death sentence (removal from campaign up to 2 year ban in the case of the forum).

By the way this Lauda fucker look at what kind of posts he was doing back then, REF SPAM removed from moderators all the time in 2016 and now comes decides the forum fate, that is fucked up to the maximum extent possible. Also named and accepted that did extortion.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=101872;sa=showPosts;start=460

[Lauda]

By the way this Lauda fucker look at what kind of posts he was doing back then, REF SPAM removed from moderators all the time in 2016 and now comes decides the forum fate, that is fucked up to the maximum extent possible. Also named and accepted that did extortion.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=101872;sa=showPosts;start=460

That was me, as a moderator, removing other people's ref. spam. Just when I thought that a monkey like you couldn't get any dumber.. it seems that I have been insulting monkeys all this time.

[mikhaelsky]

Before you guys tagged him, does any of you have a solid proof that the OP is bill gator himself?
Looks like a scandal planned by Lauda and Tman to remove people who doesn't lick their ass.A made up post.

Playing politics on an online forum, get out of your basements you fucking incel virgins.Get a life!

This post is a prime example of totalitarianism on this forum.
Reminds me of The animal farm.

I am curious if there is evidence the OP is the same as Bill Gator. The answer would be especially telling considering the reaction of certain members here.

It's Lauda and her dogs.

You are like those dogs in the book lol

How dare you pajeet! I am a cat.

Imagine plagiarizing, being let off with a temp ban, and then still appealing. I must say, I kind of expected a bit better.

Although I wonder why some people get 1 year and others 2 years.

You are the Napolean.
Go and read some books.

[Lauda]

It's Lauda and her dogs.

Woof, woof Meow, meow motherfucker.

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Yawn. Anything else you got?

[Quickseller]

Before you guys tagged him, does any of you have a solid proof that the OP is bill gator himself?
Looks like a scandal planned by Lauda and Tman to remove people who doesn't lick their ass.A made up post.

Playing politics on an online forum, get out of your basements you fucking incel virgins.Get a life!

This post is a prime example of totalitarianism on this forum.
Reminds me of The animal farm.

I am curious if there is evidence the OP is the same as Bill Gator. The answer would be especially telling considering the reaction of certain members here.

Read the OP, bulshit bulshit 32 words when 2 will do, it’s like a tramp stamp on a cheap woman, I can smell the shitty perfume from the other side of the earth.

There is literally zero proof the OP is an alt of Bill Gator.

Everything he posted is public information. I am not sure if those getting bans are receiving any kind of notification of the post found to have plagiarized, but many people opening ban appeal threads appear to not know what specific post of theirs was caught. However in the OP's case, he knew exactly what post he copied, even though he is not the one who wrote the post. He also says he will not reply to this thread, which is unexpected of someone in his position.

A review of the security log and Bill Gator's post history does make me believe his account was likely sold on Nov 7, 2015, as claimed in the OP. This is based on public information available to anyone. When the account was likely transferred, it only had 107 posts, and appears to be a textbook example of someone buying an account to get around the long wait times between posts.

edit: This person claims to not know what post got him banned for plagiarism (presumably) and he was banned on the 20th, while Bill Gator was banned on the 19th according to his signature. This would lead me to believe the mods are *not* telling those who are banned which of their posts were found to be plagiarized.

[TMAN]

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Why the fuck would anyone else post the op if it wasn’t the wordsmith himself? And hypothetically if your story of it not being bill turned out to be correct I would move my tag and any other DT member would do the same as long as we were presented with OBSERVABLE PROOF.

[Quickseller]

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Why the fuck would anyone else post the op if it wasn’t the wordsmith himself? And hypothetically if your story of it not being bill turned out to be correct I would move my tag and any other DT member would do the same as long as we were presented with OBSERVABLE PROOF.

Well for one, lauda seems pretty hell bent on seeing that Bill Gator is tagged, regardless of what anyone else thinks. So there are the people with a similar mindset.

[DireWolfM14]

I was genuinely surprised to find out that bill had been banned for plagiarism.  I found his posts to be wordy and contrived to the point of being monotonous, even verging on spammy, but I never would have pegged him for a plagiarist.  The excuse that the account was purchased makes perfect sense.

You know I say no to account dealers, but I said months ago after the iluvbitcoins debacle that I would only be tagging them from then on, with no exceptions for mitigating circumstances--and I'm sticking to that.  Of course I respect your opinion and I'm not going to counter any feedback, which I've previously said I'm not a fan of anyway.

I have to disagree with you on this TP.  Obviously you are entitled to your opinion and you can react any way you choose, but one needs to ask why the member bought the bill gator account.  Was it because he didn't like the name he had already chosen for his account as the OP claims, or was it because he got CMAS listed for his wordy monotony?  Buying an account is cheating, plain and simple.  It's no different than buying or forging a college degree, in my opinion.  You can argue that bill has been a contributing member of the community, and makes decent, articulate posts, but it was rooted in deception.  

If it wasn't intended to deceive the community why wouldn't he have disclosed that he had purchased the account right from the start?  Why didn't he just start with a fresh account?  The answer is likely to qualify for sig and bounty campaigns in which his other account was no longer welcome.

As far as the shitposting goes, I haven't taken a look at bg's post history but he got accepted into the Chipmixer campaign, so the quality of his posts can't be that bad.  I certainly know he can write coherently and isn't a typical sig spammer by any means.

No, bill isn't your typical sig spammer, and he did earn his way onto the most coveted campaign on the forum.  And I mean that, he earned his way onto that campaign.  It's not like he bought a great account, got accepted into chipmixer and started posting shit.  It was his own words that got him into that spot.  

I'm all in favor of being lenient on people who make mistakes early on, but the deceit he has perpetrated on the community makes me less sympathetic for his case.  Whats fair is fair: If bill can prove that he purchased the account after the post in question, then I wouldn't mind seeing his ban being lifted.  He shouldn't be punished for a crime he did not commit.  But buying an account without a public disclosure at the time is something that negates any trust I had for him.  

I don't think bill bought the account to scam anyone, if so he's very slow to build up to that.  But he's been deceptive none the less.

[TMAN]

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Why the fuck would anyone else post the op if it wasn’t the wordsmith himself? And hypothetically if your story of it not being bill turned out to be correct I would move my tag and any other DT member would do the same as long as we were presented with OBSERVABLE PROOF.

Well for one, lauda seems pretty hell bent on seeing that Bill Gator is tagged, regardless of what anyone else thinks. So there are the people with a similar mindset.

And? Tags are no longer permanent from DT members, there has been numerous cases of negative tags being removed lately. So now that’s dealt with what other issues do you have here ?

[SaltySpitoon]

As far as I know, there is no leniency given for the, "my account was hacked, I bought the account, it was my brother on my account, etc etc" excuses. It may well be valid, but its far easier for the staff to just say, take care of your account, rather than taking on the duty of spending days playing detective to help out the 1 in 1000 that have a legitimate claim. Back when account buying/selling was a bit more acceptable, before account farmers became the nuisance they are today, checking over an account's posts was something everyone did before buying an account. If I recall, there was even a price tool that would tell you the quality of an account's posts and its value. That burden was always on the buyer, so maybe I'm not as sympathetic as I could be on the matter. Regardless, asking the moderators to cut you some slack is just going to result in tons of spammers asking for forgiveness with bogus reasons, so I can't see anyone wanting to set that precedent.

On a side note... there are three, maybe four on topic posts in this thread. This is getting pitiful, make your own thread if you want to take part in a circle jerk. Whether you like Bill or not, they made a real post asking a question, its not like a thread in off topic about some random nonsense where no one cares if you spam.