[2019-05-22] Dutch Authorities Shut Down Bestmixer

[hv_]

technically any coin mixing service can be accused of money laundering and shut down
I can't believe bestmixer hosted their servers in the country that can easily comply with the european court's decisions
this is a bad precedent , bitcoin is not that anonymous to start with and if many mixers are taken down , those who want to preserve their anonymity  will have not so many options left
and even worse , there will be (if not are already) special services controlled mixers - as non anonymous as it can get

How much d u estimate is the potential to get tainted coins out of it?

Who has highest interest to use it?

Meh

[BLAST2MARS]

I knew this was going to happen and you guys should not be  upset because mixer sites does not really helps us at all but only makes crypto looks bad. It's the go to for money launderers obviously and only a small percentage of it are legal transactions of people who only wants anonymity. I know I have no evidence about the laundering accusation but it's very obvious and if I'm one of these mafia or syndicate, mixer sites are a big help.

[figmentofmyass]

I knew this was going to happen and you guys should not be  upset because mixer sites does not really helps us at all but only makes crypto looks bad. It's the go to for money launderers obviously and only a small percentage of it are legal transactions of people who only wants anonymity. I know I have no evidence about the laundering accusation but it's very obvious and if I'm one of these mafia or syndicate, mixer sites are a big help.

it's not even clear what law was being violated. europol stated they are unsure to what extent laundering was taking place on bestmixer!

you may not realize it, but the bitcoin protocol is not very private. leaking IP addresses, having a permanently available ledger history to cluster addresses, the transfer of taint from input to output. between this and all the PII we are leaking through our browsers, we can be deanonymized. anyone who values their privacy will do something about it through mixing, coinjoin, or something else. it can be as simple as not wanting to be linked to porn or gambling. some exchanges will ban your account for links to bitcoin casinos or sportsbooks.

[veleten]

technically any coin mixing service can be accused of money laundering and shut down
I can't believe bestmixer hosted their servers in the country that can easily comply with the european court's decisions
this is a bad precedent , bitcoin is not that anonymous to start with and if many mixers are taken down , those who want to preserve their anonymity  will have not so many options left
and even worse , there will be (if not are already) special services controlled mixers - as non anonymous as it can get

How much d u estimate is the potential to get tainted coins out of it?

Who has highest interest to use it?

Meh

do you mean mixers in general or the supposedly government controlled mixers?
since its a mixer its highly likely to get all sort of coins from it
I don't think the service itself is tracing the coins that are coming to it , it is not their concern
but now they might as well do so , since you do not want to be shut down because some Al-Auqeda leader decided to send you 100 bitcoins to mix
either that or open services in the countries that spit on the EU and  US laws and sanctions