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May 24, 2019, 05:17:51 AM
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May nabasa lang akong news at an inspired ako dahil may mga sikat na personalidad na masyadong optimistic sa success ng bitcoin sa future.

Ayon sa CEO of Morgan Creek Capital Mark Yusko, ang bitcoin ay maaring tumaas ng $400,000 or 20,800,00 pesos (using 52php/usd conversion)
So kung makasave tayo at least 0.5 btc in 5 years, may 10 million pesos na tayong parang retirment, minimum lang po ya.

Dapit may BTC0.0083 lang tayo na savings at least in a month. Kaya natin yan di ba?


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May 24, 2019, 05:37:14 AM
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Kayang kaya naman yan nasa tao lang naman yan. Parang pag iipon lang din yan ng pera kung may disiplina ka magagawa mong mag ipon. Para sa akin aim higher at least 1-2BTC bitcoin hold mo lang at ok na yang ganyang amount. Swerte nung mga tao na nakapag ipon ng bitcoin nung mababa palang at hanggang ngayon naka hold parin sila. Meron ba dito na madalas magbenta ng bitcoin at hindi nagagawang mag ipon dahil sa mga responsibilidad nila sa buhay?

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May 24, 2019, 05:59:06 AM
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Dapit may BTC0.0083 lang tayo na savings at least in a month. Kaya natin yan di ba?
Kayang kaya yan especially kung ikaw yung type ng tao na may stable job. Ang importante lang pagdating sa ganitong usapin ay kung willing ka ba talaga irisk pera mo. Ang pag hold kasi ng btc ay hindi katulad ng conventional way of saving money, sugal talaga yun. Kung nakapag save ka ng P500 using conventional one eh asahan mong P500 pa rin yun paglipas ng isang buwan. On the other hand, ok sana kung yung P500 mo ay naging P1k after a month, pero kaya mo ba na makitang ang ipon mo ay maging P300 na lang? That's the question Grin.

That's why it's very important to invest what you can only afford to lose. In my case, I lost almost 5k way back January of this year because I continue hodling. Akala ko kasi makakaahon pa si btc after ATH, yun pala ay tuloy ang pagbulusok niya. Masakit sa part ko yun lalo na't estudyante pa lang ako pero kinaya pa naman Grin.
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May 24, 2019, 06:28:21 AM
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That's why it's very important to invest what you can only afford to lose. In my case, I lost almost 5k way back January of this year because I continue hodling. Akala ko kasi makakaahon pa si btc after ATH, yun pala ay tuloy ang pagbulusok niya. Masakit sa part ko yun lalo na't estudyante pa lang ako pero kinaya pa naman Grin.

Kung hindi ka nagbenta, hindi ka talo.  X BTC is always  X BTC, kahit na magkano ang presyo nya ng palitan.  Matatalo ka lang if you converted it to fiat if you bought it during the height of Bitcoin hype noong 2017.



Isang magandang strategy ang sinabi mo OP, hindi naman kasi dapat biglain ang pagbili ng BTC, slowly but steady is way better than a sudden burst of investment kasi nga maapektuhan naman ang budget mo sa pamilya at bayarin.  Merong isang formula akong sinusunod kapag kumikita which is itabi muna ang savings bago magbudget.  5 to 10% for savings ay ok na then half of it eh iconvert sa Bitcoin then half sa bank for emergency needs para hindi magalaw yung investment natin sa Bitcoin kung sakaling magipit at mangailangan.

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May 24, 2019, 07:08:22 AM
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Kung hindi ka nagbenta, hindi ka talo.  X BTC is always  X BTC, kahit na magkano ang presyo nya ng palitan.  Matatalo ka lang if you converted it to fiat if you bought it during the height of Bitcoin hype noong 2017.
I got your point kabayan but I think 'di sa lahat ng pagkakataon ay mame-maintain mo ang paghodl unless you are investing mainly just for fun. Buti sana kung lahat tayo ay veteran na sa larangan in which fully understand the nature of crypto or like a trading robot na magbebenta lang pag mataas ang price, kaso hindi. Syempre 'di mo naman pwede sabihin na hindi makakaapekto emotions mo. Andyan yung pressure, the panic, yung tendency na mag overthink sa possible worse outcomes tsaka agitation and having a feeling of these means there's no assurance na hindi ka talaga magbebenta kahit ano pa ang mangyari.
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May 24, 2019, 07:25:14 AM
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For long term hold, I think 1 btc is enough.
We do have our needs also and that is our priority, but if we have a chance to save we can make 1 btc even in 2 years.

The amount stated if that will happen, it would give fortune to us here, some of us has a campaign so far and I
believe we can set funds at least 0.02 btc in a month. That's only 2% of the whole BTC and we need 50 months to achieve that target.

For those who haven't save yet, maybe start reviewing your future plans now.

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Just save what we can and prioritize your needs, for saving might be a must for others  but most people in the third world country needs to put something in their stomachs before saving. Bitcoin will disrupt what we know about banking and finance but the banks are making the steps as well to go with the trend (Union Bank). I for myself wanted to have at least 50 Btc just a target before retiring, if ever I can't make  that number hopefully I am close with that.









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May 24, 2019, 08:48:36 AM
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For long term hold, I think 1 btc is enough.
We do have our needs also and that is our priority, but if we have a chance to save we can make 1 btc even in 2 years.
Ito nga tingin ko kasi kahit maging $20k ang presyo ulit tapos kahit may isa ka lang, milyonaryo ka na agad. Ipon lang at isipin mo lang din kung meron ka ba talagang tiwala kay bitcoin na aabot siya sa mas mataas na price. Ako tiwala ako na mas tataas pa yan at hihigit pa kasi may halving ulit sa 2020.

The amount stated if that will happen, it would give fortune to us here, some of us has a campaign so far and I
believe we can set funds at least 0.02 btc in a month. That's only 2% of the whole BTC and we need 50 months to achieve that target.

For those who haven't save yet, maybe start reviewing your future plans now.
Kahit hindi 0.02BTC ang masave mo per month kasi sa iba masyadong malaki na yan. Kahit mga 0.005BTC lang sakin basta tuloy tuloy.

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Kung hindi ka nagbenta, hindi ka talo.  X BTC is always  X BTC, kahit na magkano ang presyo nya ng palitan.  Matatalo ka lang if you converted it to fiat if you bought it during the height of Bitcoin hype noong 2017.
I got your point kabayan but I think 'di sa lahat ng pagkakataon ay mame-maintain mo ang paghodl unless you are investing mainly just for fun. Buti sana kung lahat tayo ay veteran na sa larangan in which fully understand the nature of crypto or like a trading robot na magbebenta lang pag mataas ang price, kaso hindi. Syempre 'di mo naman pwede sabihin na hindi makakaapekto emotions mo. Andyan yung pressure, the panic, yung tendency na mag overthink sa possible worse outcomes tsaka agitation and having a feeling of these means there's no assurance na hindi ka talaga magbebenta kahit ano pa ang mangyari.

If you a person can't withstand the emotion he better keep away from investment like this.  Makakasama sa kalusugan mo ng tao  iyan baka sa halip na kumita ka siya eh maubos sa pagpapagamot mo nya.  Sa larangan ng trading dapat emotionless tayo that is why dapat iyon lang na pwede nating kalimutan ang iinvest natin.



Kahit hindi 0.02BTC ang masave mo per month kasi sa iba masyadong malaki na yan. Kahit mga 0.005BTC lang sakin basta tuloy tuloy.

I believe any amount can do kung monthly naman ang savings.  Sa pagdating ng panahon lalaki rin yan at makakaipon din ng isang buong BTC.  Take note if we collect 1 BTC we will belong to 21 million club ng BTC since 21 million lang ang supply ni BTC what more kung makakaipon pa tayo ng higit pa.

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The amount stated if that will happen, it would give fortune to us here, some of us has a campaign so far and I
believe we can set funds at least 0.02 btc in a month. That's only 2% of the whole BTC and we need 50 months to achieve that target.

For those who haven't save yet, maybe start reviewing your future plans now.
Kahit hindi 0.02BTC ang masave mo per month kasi sa iba masyadong malaki na yan. Kahit mga 0.005BTC lang sakin basta tuloy tuloy.

For those who are saving, did you make sure you put your btc in a hard wallet or your are okay with deskstop wallet?

As for now, my BTC are just stored in electrum wallet, can I have your opinion?

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I believe any amount can do kung monthly naman ang savings.  Sa pagdating ng panahon lalaki rin yan at makakaipon din ng isang buong BTC.  Take note if we collect 1 BTC we will belong to 21 million club ng BTC since 21 million lang ang supply ni BTC what more kung makakaipon pa tayo ng higit pa.
Oo nga no, isipin mo lang na sa konting supply ng bitcoin na 21 million, isa ka sa mga tao na merong isa. At isipin mo din kung gaano kadami yung lost forever at kailanman hindi na makukuha pa. Basta save lang save, kung gaano ka eager sa mga pangarap mo at pagse-save sa bangko, ganun din dapat sa pagse-save ng bitcoin kasi sa mga darating na panahon ikaw at ikaw din ang makikinabang niyan. Depende din yan sa lifestyle mo basta maglaan lang lagi at magtabi.

For those who are saving, did you make sure you put your btc in a hard wallet or your are okay with deskstop wallet?

As for now, my BTC are just stored in electrum wallet, can I have your opinion?
Salamat sa paalala, ako sa ledger wallet (s) ko sinesave, balak ko sana kumuha ng X pero saka nalang.

Ok naman ang electrum, itago mo lang yung seed mo at wag mo i-save sa computer mo, cloud o email. Basta isulat mo lang tapos yung papel o yung pagsusulatan mo dapat water resistant at medyo matibay. Ako meron akong back up, nasa flash drive notepad at meron din nakasulat sa papel.

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As long as kaya mung makaipon ng Bitcoin ipunin mu pero wag kang mag iipon sa exchange site because my tendency itong mahack at mawala ang iniipon mu kahit na gaano pa ka secured ang isang exchange site dimu parin masasabi mangyayari, maka ipon kalang ng 1btc maganda na ito para sa future mu.

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There's no minimum required but as much as possible dapat maghold talaga tayo ng marami since alam naman nating lahat na ang bitcoin ay mas lalo pang magiging successful in the next 5 years. This should be our mindset, not just to become a millionaire but of course to become more financially free. Better to start saving small BTC now and put it on a safe place wag sa coins.ph at sa mga exchanges.
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For those who are saving, did you make sure you put your btc in a hard wallet or your are okay with deskstop wallet?

As for now, my BTC are just stored in electrum wallet, can I have your opinion?

I have my BTC stored sa electrum wallet din.  I have the back-up priv key printed and saved on separate flash disk at back up wallet file on 2 usb flash disk.  Much better sana kung sa cold storage which is actually not connected sa internet or sa ledger wallet.  Pero kung wala naman ledger wallet I believe storing it sa flash disk then deleting ung wallet file mo sa computer na nakaconnect sa internet is much better.  Iyan is kung hindi mo iaaccess yang wallet sa matagal na panahon.  May mga malware kasi na nagssniff ng Bitcoin wallet file.  Just incase mas maganda ang secure ang savings natin.  In additon, ugaliin nating lagyan ng encryption ang mga wallet natin para ma sniff man, may 2nd layer of protection tayo.  Mas maganda nga kung lalagyan pang 2fa.

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May 24, 2019, 09:49:41 AM
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May nabasa lang akong news at an inspired ako dahil may mga sikat na personalidad na masyadong optimistic sa success ng bitcoin sa future.

Ayon sa CEO of Morgan Creek Capital Mark Yusko, ang bitcoin ay maaring tumaas ng $400,000 or 20,800,00 pesos (using 52php/usd conversion)
So kung makasave tayo at least 0.5 btc in 5 years, may 10 million pesos na tayong parang retirment, minimum lang po ya.

Dapit may BTC0.0083 lang tayo na savings at least in a month. Kaya natin yan di ba?


https://cointelegraph.com/news/morgan-creek-ceo-says-every-investor-should-hold-some-bitcoin

As of now, I am earning at least .005 BTC, so if I were to save this until it gets .5btc then after 5 years I would be a millionaire. Pero sad to say, nagagamit at nagagamit ko yung natatanggap kong btc. Sana makaipon man lng kahit .5btc hehe.

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May 24, 2019, 09:59:23 AM
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Wala nmang specific amount na kailangan sa pag save ng bitcoin. Ilagay mo lang kung ano yung amount na kaya mong hindi galawin for long period.

Minsan kasi hindi maiwasan na magkaron ng emergency kaya kung ilalagay mo yung pera mo na hindi spare money sa bitcoin then may tendency na i cash out mo din yan agad.

Para sakin kahit 1 btc pwede na, gaya ng sabi ni op kung tataas ang price ng $400,000 sa future malaking pera na yun at hindi lang para sa sarili mo kundi sa pamilya mo na din.

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May 24, 2019, 10:04:41 AM
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Kaya yan, pwede din kalahati sa sweldo mo ay e invest sa bitcoin, I'm sure na magiging milyonaryo tayo pero dapat may patient ka sa pag hold kung gusto mo talaga maging milyonaryo in the future. 

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May 24, 2019, 11:39:34 AM
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May nabasa lang akong news at an inspired ako dahil may mga sikat na personalidad na masyadong optimistic sa success ng bitcoin sa future.

Ayon sa CEO of Morgan Creek Capital Mark Yusko, ang bitcoin ay maaring tumaas ng $400,000 or 20,800,00 pesos (using 52php/usd conversion)
So kung makasave tayo at least 0.5 btc in 5 years, may 10 million pesos na tayong parang retirment, minimum lang po ya.

Dapit may BTC0.0083 lang tayo na savings at least in a month. Kaya natin yan di ba?


https://cointelegraph.com/news/morgan-creek-ceo-says-every-investor-should-hold-some-bitcoin
Kung ilan ang kayang mong irisk para sa ikagaganda ng buhay mo sa kinabukasan gawin mo. Siguro pwede  kasi masyado ng malaki kapag lampas pa at saka lakasan pa rin ng loob yan kasi hanggang ngayon itinuturing pa ring high risk investment ang bitcoin kaya nasa sa iyo na rin kung magkano ang savings na maisasave mo sa pagbili ng boitcoin.
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May 24, 2019, 11:53:13 AM
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Kaya yan, pwede din kalahati sa sweldo mo ay e invest sa bitcoin, I'm sure na magiging milyonaryo tayo pero dapat may patient ka sa pag hold kung gusto mo talaga maging milyonaryo in the future. 
Patience ang kailangan ng bawat isa. Alisin muna natin yung mindset na rich quick kasi parang ganyan ang kalalabasan, kaya yung ibang mga tao na nagiging interesado kapag nalaman yung plano natin. Hindi nila inuunawa na tayo may plano tayo kung gaano tayo katagal magho-hold at habang sila naman, ang pinaka plano lang nila yumaman lang ng kabilis. Kaya maraming nais-scam na mga kababayan natin kasi hindi nila inaaalam kung gaano kahirap at katagal tayong nagho-hold at naginvest dito.

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May 24, 2019, 12:06:30 PM
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Kaya yan, pwede din kalahati sa sweldo mo ay e invest sa bitcoin, I'm sure na magiging milyonaryo tayo pero dapat may patient ka sa pag hold kung gusto mo talaga maging milyonaryo in the future. 

This would be a great advice if a person is earning where half of his income is all free.  Meaning nabayaran na lahat ng pangangailangan, pagkain, bahay, bill sa tubig at kuryente, mga personal na pangangailangan at miscelaneous expenses at may sobra pang kalahati sa kinita.  But kung medyo alanganin ang sweldo para sa pangbudget sa araw-araw, much better to allocate a small percentage to invest in Bitcoin.  Most of this cases yung hindi naglalaan ng extra para sa immediate needs at puro sa investment nilalagay ay nagbebenta ng palugi para paglaan ang biglaang pangangailangan.  In short, it is always best to have a balance savings and investment.

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