Post quality - evaluation

[adamvp]

Dear Bitcointalk community,
I am making this thread, casue I was unpleasantly surprised by what happened to me before a while.

Some of my posts was getting deleted. What is the most unpleasant I did not receive any explanation of the reasons of my posts deleting.

I'd like to quote my deleted post below:

I am checking Bitmain shop website several times a day, but I have never seen availble units yet
So I'd like to know how can I reach few units of Antminer (not necessarily T17/ S17 but any of newest products)
BTW do I see correct that first batch will be dispatched in June or was it  any T17/S17 already sent?

from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5122170.0

and

Oh, what a nice surprise!
I've just entered Mining section cause I wanted to ask about mining hardware - I am going to build a cryptocurrency mine and I  noticed this topic immediately.
Very good job! My merit goes to OP!

from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5045732.0


I would like to know your thoughts about my post quailty - is it really such low to get deleted? or maybe there are another reason that it was deleted? :/


***PROBLEMS * PROBLEMS **

I even got a reply to my questions: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5122170.msg51216939#msg51216939 and I do not think they notice anything bad...

[Kavelj22]

I don't see any valid reason why your posts got deleted, IMO. May be second post has been considered as spam or out of topic, it's useless!

I just thought they were posted in self-mod threads but they are not.
May be they were reported by someone.

Did you try to contact the moderator of the board where your posts got deleted?  
Edit: the post below explain some good points. Thank you Sharon121212

[Sharon121212]

From your first deleted message the post state that the product by Bitman would soon be introduced but you went ahead to make a reply that you have been going through the site(well that improper for a starter)

And the second post was in a nut shell showing your appreciation. Reply's like thank you, good/great job, I love the post, I will merit or I have merited  the OP. With out really adding substantial stuff to the reply would likely be deemed unfit by mods.

Inconculsion mods delete messages that the feel is of low value and improper.
You would learn alot form this discussion about quality posting. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2605767.0

[reda]

Mining board is one of the highly active moderation board in this forum. Generic replies and the replies which seems like general also use to be deleted by moderators.

While post getting deleted two types messages you can from "Bitcoin Forum"

1:

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

2:

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

You may follow the above terms if you find any problems in this.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Your second deleted post can be categorize as an irrelevant replies i.e replies that don't actually add any value or anything useful to the discussion at hand and most times this type of replies are used by spammers to boost their post count. (Note I'm not calling you a spammer but that reply of yours wasn't necessary) let your merits do the talking no need for irrelevant feedbacks.

As for your first post since it contains a question maybe the same question must have been previously asked and answered so maybe moderator saw it as a duplicate.

But after viewing both OP that your post were deleted from I can conclude none of your replies were contributive to.the discussion of the thread so moderators were right in deleting both posts.

[jademaxsuy]

There could be an accidental deletion of your post OP. Mods are not bots that has efficiency in deleting irrelevant, spam or any other reasons that it needs to be deleted. I had been too in that process but I am not complaining because I do understand how things works and probably overdoing it that results to accidental deletion.

As we all know that shit posters are everywhere that could trigger a lot of posts deletion in the forum. So think how many post mods will be deleting everyday.

I think it is still best to do things in accordance with bitcointalk.org forum rules and regulations.

[YOSHIE]

If your post is correct as said by @CryptopreneurBrainboss,
It is clear here that every post that is deleted without giving or missing.

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

In this statement the possibility of your post colliding with this rule, so the post is deleted.

Maybe you can further distinguish which one is outside the topic and which one leads to discussion.

[adamvp]

But this reason could apply to 80% of posts on bitcointalk.. There is not much post stritcly ontopic  - I agree bitcointalk should fight against spam but I think it will be better to begin with deleting obvious spam..

 

Mining board is one of the highly active moderation board in this forum. Generic replies and the replies which seems like general also use to be deleted by moderators.

I am confused because of such different enforcement of standards in different sections  

From your first deleted message the post state that the product by Bitman would soon be introduced but you went ahead to make a reply that you have been going through the site(well that improper for a starter)

I am not native english speaker so I don't quite understand what does "but you went ahead to make a reply that you have been going through the site(well that improper for a starter)" mean ??

[tmfp]

Mining board is one of the highly active moderation board in this forum.

Yes, OP you've been Frodo'd, don't worry about it.

[Steamtyme]

I'm surprised your first post was deleted. While some of it may have been covered before these generally remain as you were asking a question and it wasn't really generic and spammy. Usually posts that reply to a deleted post get removed as well. That leads me to think someone may have reported the post... but who knows.

The second one did surprise me a little but could see why it was done. I actually replied to it and pointed you to another thread for information about getting started in mining, and advised to ask questions there. Mostly because I've stated the purpose for the Hardware thread is not discussion but information. I still don't see your post there as a problem, but that's just my opinion.
Thank you by the way, always nice to see people appreciate the work. Worst case if you ever need any assistance you can PM me and I'll try to help, but don't shy away from posting in the Mining section it's usually okay.

Honestly though, don't worry about a few posts being deleted here and there. It does happen all the time, and it can be either the local mods, or any mod who sees the report and responds. Sometimes there are mistakes as well.

[sowns]

Idk about the first post but the second one can be construed as a “+1” post, which would be considered spammy under rule 1 as detailed in the pinned post on this board.

[libert19]

I don't think your posts are low quality but they don't add anything to discussion either, may be that's why they got deleted.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I rarely ever post in the mining section, but I did yesterday or the day before in response to one of philipma1957's posts.  If I didn't delete the PM I got, I'd post it here, but my post was (I thought) on-topic.  I basically said that I found solar mining fascinating and wanted phillipma1957 to post a link to a Youtube video that he had made reference to in the post to which I was responding.  But my post got deleted.

I'm assuming that moderation in the mining section is very strict, but if that's the reason that OP and I got our posts deleted, I think it's way too strict.  But anyway, I sent phillipma1957 a PM instead and got an answer from him.

OP, in general you're going to have your posts nuked from time to time, and there's nothing you can do about it.  It's just something we all have to accept.  There's no need to start threads when it happens.  And believe me, every section is different as far as strictness of moderation. 

[mikeywith]

From your first deleted message the post state that the product by Bitman would soon be introduced but you went ahead to make a reply that you have been going through the site(well that improper for a starter)

The "Product" has been selling long before that question was asked, so your theory is very wrong.


OP , I think your first post got deleted by mistake,frodocooper does an excellent job and he might got a little too excited and deleted your post among a steam of other shit posts.

Your second post however is "debatable" but if it was up to me, i would have deleted it as well.

also if you are looking for Antminers for sale, i guess the market place would be a better place for you to find what you are looking for (That could also be the reason why frodocooper deleted your post)

[adamvp]

I'm surprised your first post was deleted. While some of it may have been covered before these generally remain as you were asking a question and it wasn't really generic and spammy. Usually posts that reply to a deleted post get removed as well. That leads me to think someone may have reported the post... but who knows.

The second one did surprise me a little but could see why it was done. I actually replied to it and pointed you to another thread for information about getting started in mining, and advised to ask questions there. Mostly because I've stated the purpose for the Hardware thread is not discussion but information. I still don't see your post there as a problem, but that's just my opinion.
Thank you by the way, always nice to see people appreciate the work. Worst case if you ever need any assistance you can PM me and I'll try to help, but don't shy away from posting in the Mining section it's usually okay.

Honestly though, don't worry about a few posts being deleted here and there. It does happen all the time, and it can be either the local mods, or any mod who sees the report and responds. Sometimes there are mistakes as well.

Thanks, but I posted another posts and its was getting deleted too so I'd rather try to look for answers to my question somewhere else .
If my first post was deleted due to report I have a guess  it could have a connection with the fact that someone is trying to destroy my local community  and some of my fellow countrymen has already been affected, too (reports/accusations by specially created newbie account etc).

[stompix]

I'm assuming that moderation in the mining section is very strict, but if that's the reason that OP and I got our posts deleted, I think it's way too strict.  But anyway, I sent phillipma1957 a PM instead and got an answer from him.

 

you've been Frodo'd, d

I remember this one when somebody tried to advertise a fake mining company.


Yeah, moderation sometimes in the mining section goes overboard but I admire how spam free is and how no sig spammers venture there as they learn pretty fast their post won't last till the next post count.

Imagine that moderation team taking over Bitcoin Discussion 

[gantez]

I don't think your posts are low quality but they don't add anything to discussion either, may be that's why they got deleted.

Or maybe they are mostly found on mega thread whose response would have been supposedly given by earlier responses which would now make OP's post as spamming and irrelevant.

[wwzsocki]

I think we must get used to the fact that sometimes we will have our posts removed without a reason because moderators are also humans and they can be wrong too.

Especially if reported and the member already has a lot of reports with high accuracy. Mods can not check such reports properly as tend to have a credit of trust to this reporting member.

Lately, I had the same problem with exactly two of my posts which were deleted from my own thread and both were answers to questions with 100+ letters.

I send emails but got an answer only from mods which haven't removed them. After some time I posted this same posts in this same thread and they are not removed until today.

Mistakes can happen, I assume. Until this is not too often then we have just to ignore it.

[Jet Cash]

Forget about the mining section unless you  are a long term miner with a six figure investment. Every mining beginners thread I have posted there has been deleted. I think we need a mining sub-board in the beginners section, and moderation should be given to one of the mods with an interest in expanding Bitcoin Talk, rather than preserving a closed club

[btcsmlcmnr]

Mistakes can happen, I assume. Until this is not too often then we have just to ignore it.

Please take it simple. Mods are human, and we all know the fact that human can make mistakes. Furthermore, moderators (or one of them) wrote that they have to work hard to solve reports, appeals, complaints, recoveries and other things from things that they did not start. They have to work hard for stupid things started by others, while those people glance at them, and enjoy their lives as well as money that they took from the forum.  Hence, sometimes when mods feel tired, they might make mistakes for such boring things like spam reports.