Hhampuz embezzling signature campaign funds from BestMixer

[DireWolfM14]

Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use.

That's quite a leap.  You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet.  You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design.  BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do.

This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking.

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[Quickseller]

Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use.

That's quite a leap.  You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet.  You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design.  BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do.

This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking.

The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign.

The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this.

[TheNewAnon135246]

Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use.

That's quite a leap.  You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet.  You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design.  BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do.

This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking.

The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign.

The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this.

More assumptions. How can you tell for sure that such instructions weren't provided when they hired him? I can imagine that mixer operators think ahead.

[Quickseller]

Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use.

That's quite a leap.  You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet.  You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design.  BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do.

This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking.

The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign.

The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this.

More assumptions. How can you tell for sure that such instructions weren't provided when they hired him? I can imagine that mixer operators think ahead.

If that is what happened, Hhampuz can respond to this thread and show evidence of that.

The question as to what happened to the money was previously broached to Hhampuz, which went ignored.

[TheNewAnon135246]

Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use.

That's quite a leap.  You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet.  You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design.  BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do.

This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking.

The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign.

The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this.

More assumptions. How can you tell for sure that such instructions weren't provided when they hired him? I can imagine that mixer operators think ahead.

If that is what happened, Hhampuz can respond to this thread and show evidence of that.

Why would he waste his time to reply to this obvious grasp for attention and give you what you want?

[Lauda]

Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use.

That's quite a leap.  You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet.  You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design.  BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do.

This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking.

The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign.

The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this.

More assumptions. How can you tell for sure that such instructions weren't provided when they hired him? I can imagine that mixer operators think ahead.

If that is what happened, Hhampuz can respond to this thread and show evidence of that.

The question as to what happened to the money was previously broached to Hhampuz, which went ignored.

Unless there is "evidence" that he is obligated to keep the money where it is, he can transfer/mix/liquidate it back and forth however he pleases as long as the money is "safe".

I'll counter any ratings that come out of this spiteful thread and hereby advise Hhampuz to not even indulge you by responding at all. See: I can, and I just did. Need anything else mr. escrow scammer?

[Quickseller]

Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use.

That's quite a leap.  You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet.  You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design.  BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do.

This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking.

The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign.

The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this.

More assumptions. How can you tell for sure that such instructions weren't provided when they hired him? I can imagine that mixer operators think ahead.

If that is what happened, Hhampuz can respond to this thread and show evidence of that.

Why would he waste his time to reply to this obvious grasp for attention and give you what you want?

The evidence points to him embezzling money....

Further, deposit addresses for ChipMixer are only good for a maximum of 14 days, it would not be possible for Hhampuz to receive instructions to send the excess money to a ChipMixer deposit address when the campaign started, because the campaign lasted longer than that.

[DireWolfM14]

The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign.

You explained why you think Hhampuz has not received instructions to move the funds.  Perhaps Hhampuz made every attempt to communicate with the BestMixer team here on the forum for tractability, but having the Feds knock on your door changes things.  Maybe they moved communication to an encrypted texting service, we don't know.  I don't know, and you don't know.  All we can do is speculate.  Like I just did.

The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this.

I can think of reasons why he would move his clients money if the client just had the feds knock on their door.  And since we are now in the business of speculating I think the safe speculation is that Hhapmuz is just as trustworthy with half a bitcoin today as he was on the 21st of May.  Yes, more speculation.  

[Lauda]

The evidence points to him embezzling money....

It points to nothing, it's pure conjecture. Is that what they teach you in the 'murica system?

A morning  in the life of quickseller..........

Wake up, its 4 am but I need to be up to deal with all my Pajeet clients and make mad satoshi from flipping accounts., Mums basement is really cold at this time of the morning, so I don my fedora, comb my neckbeard, check my sword is nice and sharp.. got to look after your sword when you are a neckbeard account farmer like me, you never know when you may need to defend yourself.

Now on to the ritual act I must perform every day, down on my knees I pull out my holy grail.. the cat picture that I imagine is Lauda, so down go my leather pants as I furiously have my 1st Lauda wank of the day.. I may not have much to work with being blessed with a micropeen, but the thumb and index finger duo does me. so I work it hard - micro peen grows to 1 1/2 inches as I ejaculate into my special cup (i'll save that to drink later, it will give me super troll strength)

Now I rise, check my beard and fedora again, then Boot up my Pentium 4 machine and shitpost away on 1256 alt accounts, get bounty collecting.. all those satoshi's add up. I do 2 deals for 20 member accounts each to Pajeet and Pajeeta, fuck theymos and his forum for removing me from DT.. I could of been the best I could of been like Blazed, but ill just take it out on Lauda later.
Pajeeta comes back and moans at me due to 7 of the accounts being tied together by timelord, oh shit thats 3 months of work down the drain again.. better get ready to rage at Lauda.

Take a break from account grinding, better go and check on mum make sure she  has enough chicken tendies in for me today..

This explains everything.

[TheNewAnon135246]

Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use.

That's quite a leap.  You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet.  You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design.  BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do.

This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking.

The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign.

The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this.

More assumptions. How can you tell for sure that such instructions weren't provided when they hired him? I can imagine that mixer operators think ahead.

If that is what happened, Hhampuz can respond to this thread and show evidence of that.

Why would he waste his time to reply to this obvious grasp for attention and give you what you want?

The evidence points to him embezzling money....

Further, deposit addresses for ChipMixer are only good for a maximum of 14 days, it would not be possible for Hhampuz to receive instructions to send the excess money to a ChipMixer deposit address when the campaign started, because the campaign lasted longer than that.

What evidence?

[Quickseller]

Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use.

That's quite a leap.  You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet.  You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design.  BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do.

This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking.

The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign.

The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this.

More assumptions. How can you tell for sure that such instructions weren't provided when they hired him? I can imagine that mixer operators think ahead.

If that is what happened, Hhampuz can respond to this thread and show evidence of that.

Why would he waste his time to reply to this obvious grasp for attention and give you what you want?

The evidence points to him embezzling money....

Further, deposit addresses for ChipMixer are only good for a maximum of 14 days, it would not be possible for Hhampuz to receive instructions to send the excess money to a ChipMixer deposit address when the campaign started, because the campaign lasted longer than that.

What evidence?

You can read the OP.

Your prior support for extortionists doesn’t give me confidence you are acting in good faith.

[TheNewAnon135246]

Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use.

That's quite a leap.  You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet.  You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design.  BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do.

This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking.

The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign.

The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this.

More assumptions. How can you tell for sure that such instructions weren't provided when they hired him? I can imagine that mixer operators think ahead.

If that is what happened, Hhampuz can respond to this thread and show evidence of that.

Why would he waste his time to reply to this obvious grasp for attention and give you what you want?

The evidence points to him embezzling money....

Further, deposit addresses for ChipMixer are only good for a maximum of 14 days, it would not be possible for Hhampuz to receive instructions to send the excess money to a ChipMixer deposit address when the campaign started, because the campaign lasted longer than that.

What evidence?

You can read the OP.

Your prior support for extortionists doesn’t give me confidence you are acting in good faith.

Like I said, what evidence? Funds have moved but you have no insight in (prior) communications between Hhampuz and the people behind Bestmixer. You are just firing shots in the dark, same with the whole Zeroxal thing. Bring hard evidence, not assumptions.

[Quickseller]

The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign.

You explained why you think Hhampuz has not received instructions to move the funds.  Perhaps Hhampuz made every attempt to communicate with the BestMixer team here on the forum for tractability, but having the Feds knock on your door changes things.  Maybe they moved communication to an encrypted texting service, we don't know.  I don't know, and you don't know.  All we can do is speculate.  Like I just did.

I can assure you that Hhampuz did not receive off-forum communications to move the bitcoin. I will write a timeline for you:

All years 2019
May 19, 09:09:39 PM BestMixer forum account last active - May 19, 2019, 09:09:39 PM - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1721098
May 22, 05:36:25 PM, Hhampuz closes campaign and pays out participants - https://btc.com/b27574cee6516ce29ff84dca1fad3e04e799cabcb801a102360e5e437c7147d9 (transaction was confirmed at 5:04 PM)
May 22, 5:27:09 PM, Hhampuz sends bitcoin to 3GNa...Rsrtv - https://btc.com/c5c716e779653795aaa03c950199cfcc73fef855b290153f421886d3d572fae1
May 22, 09:17:11 PM, Hhampuz posts he has only communicated with BestMixer via the forum - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125389.msg51174898#msg51174898

If he wants to give some other explanation, he is welcome to do so. I reserved a post under the OP for his response so it will be prominent.

[LeGaulois]

He may have wanted to secure what was left, but above all, he may have wanted to hide it by being afraid of the rest of this story in media. He thought he might be subject to problems or something. Maybe not in the right way but there is no need to make a big deal out of it, nor is there any need to justify it

I don't defend any gang but you guys need to take a break with your soap opera. It would be great if people could spend the same energy to participate in the forum other than the meta and reputation boards

[bones261]

If he wants to give some other explanation, he is welcome to do so. I reserved a post under the OP for his response so it will be prominent.

Why would he want to give an explanation? Do you really think that whatever happened(Bestmxixer instructions or not), he'd want the Dutch government hound dogs to catch a whiff of the trail?   You've already done a crackerjack for them for free by pointing the way for them.  

[Quickseller]

If he wants to give some other explanation, he is welcome to do so. I reserved a post under the OP for his response so it will be prominent.

Why would he want to give an explanation? Do you really think that whatever happened(Bestmxixer instructions or not), he'd want the Dutch government hound dogs to catch a whiff of the trail?  You've already done a crackerjack for them for free by pointing the way for them. 

Because as it stands now, he is being accused of embezzling money that belongs to BestMixer. It is my belief the available evidence points to this being true.

I would also find it unlikely the Dutch government is not already aware of the situation. I don't think they would seize the BestMixer servers and just go home and call it a day.

[Lauda]

Because as it stands now, he is being accused of embezzling money that belongs to BestMixer. It is my belief the available evidence points to this being true.

Nobody cares when a SCAMMER like you accusses him. He will not respond.

A morning  in the life of quickseller..........

Wake up, its 4 am but I need to be up to deal with all my Pajeet clients and make mad satoshi from flipping accounts., Mums basement is really cold at this time of the morning, so I don my fedora, comb my neckbeard, check my sword is nice and sharp.. got to look after your sword when you are a neckbeard account farmer like me, you never know when you may need to defend yourself.

Now on to the ritual act I must perform every day, down on my knees I pull out my holy grail.. the cat picture that I imagine is Lauda, so down go my leather pants as I furiously have my 1st Lauda wank of the day.. I may not have much to work with being blessed with a micropeen, but the thumb and index finger duo does me. so I work it hard - micro peen grows to 1 1/2 inches as I ejaculate into my special cup (i'll save that to drink later, it will give me super troll strength)

Now I rise, check my beard and fedora again, then Boot up my Pentium 4 machine and shitpost away on 1256 alt accounts, get bounty collecting.. all those satoshi's add up. I do 2 deals for 20 member accounts each to Pajeet and Pajeeta, fuck theymos and his forum for removing me from DT.. I could of been the best I could of been like Blazed, but ill just take it out on Lauda later.
Pajeeta comes back and moans at me due to 7 of the accounts being tied together by timelord, oh shit thats 3 months of work down the drain again.. better get ready to rage at Lauda.

Take a break from account grinding, better go and check on mum make sure she  has enough chicken tendies in for me today..

This explains everything.

[marlboroza]

Additionally, BestMixer was critical of ChipMixer, and as such is unlikely to use their service.

This is assumption.

I asked Hhampuz in his campaign thread about why the bitcoin was moved when he could not have possibly received instructions on how to return the excess money, but have not received a response after a day.

This is also assumption.

It is also assumption that Hhampuz took their money. I mean, everything is assumption except coins moving from address A to address B and Bestmixer's account being inactive.

[Quickseller]

I asked Hhampuz in his campaign thread about why the bitcoin was moved when he could not have possibly received instructions on how to return the excess money, but have not received a response after a day.

This is also assumption.

This is not an assumption, as explained above.

The fact BestMixer is unlikely to use ChipMixer is not an assumption either. They may very well use ChipMixer on a regular basis, but I did not state they would or would not use the ChipMixer service under any scenario.

[bones261]

If he wants to give some other explanation, he is welcome to do so. I reserved a post under the OP for his response so it will be prominent.

Why would he want to give an explanation? Do you really think that whatever happened(Bestmxixer instructions or not), he'd want the Dutch government hound dogs to catch a whiff of the trail?   You've already done a crackerjack for them for free by pointing the way for them.  

Because as it stands now, he is being accused of embezzling money that belongs to BestMixer. It is my belief the available evidence points to this being true.

I would also find it unlikely the Dutch government is not already aware of the situation. I don't think they would seize the BestMixer servers and just go home and call it a day.

I don't think he's obligated to answer to you. What authority do you have over him? When the government is sniffing around, I think the best policy is to keep quiet or let a lawyer do all of the talking. It certainly isn't prudent to spill the beans on the open forum just to resolve this accusation. What's the worst that can happen to him if he doesn't answer to you? Some dt members actually give your accusation credence and red tag him? BFD.