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June 04, 2019, 01:32:14 PM
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I sent a PM to Hilariousandco a little while ago detailing this exact situation simply asking if I could go on posting and received no response. I'm sure they are busy.

The plagiarist doesn't have any account of their own on BitcoinTalk. I know their real name if they should be doxxed here but I doubt that's what anyone wants. But if that's procedure, I'm happy to provide that information to the proper parties and a screenshot of their stated confession that was written to me earlier. I could provide details/screenshots from messengers that go all the way back to the beginning of time with this particular individual if that was necessary, though I doubt anyone would want to see that.

As I formerly asked, if outside posting is not allowed, is there a general time frame resolutions take?

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This is just my opinion, but I don't think you should doxx anyone. I know it's too late, but sharing your account with that many people is just a recipe for disaster, as you've just found out.
AFAIK there isn't a time-frame for 'resolutions', seems like a pretty open/shut case to me.

The absolute best you can hope for is a temp ban and a 2 year signature ban. Only if you brought value to the forum, which I don't think is the case since you only had little over 400 posts.

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June 04, 2019, 04:40:51 PM
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I agree that doxxing is bad. I would have only done that privately, obviously. I could give them their e-mail to ban that, but that's as far as I can go in that direction. Won't accomplish too much.

A signature ban is no problem and honestly welcome. Even a permanent one. I have never participated in any signature campaigns in my life and don't care to. Every single post that has ever come from my account or the MintDice account has been completely voluntary in that regard and not bounty hunting.

I've read in other threads that the amount of plagiarism matters. I agree plagiarism a ridiculously bad offense, but it also seemed like it was just that once instance out of the 400+ posts, which should be worth something. To be honest though, since it wasn't me posting, if this happened more times, I wouldn't be the one to know since it was not me.

Like I said earlier, if the MintDice account gets banned at this point if they deem that fair, I can't argue that. It's not my forum that I own where I can decide the rules. I've stated at this point all I can state. And while you mentioned getting that account banned because of it's "only had little over 400 posts", my account has well more posts and more history. Banning my personal account seems beyond excessive. Do you not agree with that?




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June 04, 2019, 05:46:33 PM
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The fact that you've never participated in a signature campaign is definitely in your favor.
Though, that also makes it completely ludicrous that someone plagiarized using your account...

What benefit does it give 'you' to plagiarize when it's not to increase your post count for a signature campaign.

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June 04, 2019, 06:06:04 PM
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The fact that you've never participated in a signature campaign is definitely in your favor.
Though, that also makes it completely ludicrous that someone plagiarized using your account...

What benefit does it give 'you' to plagiarize when it's not to increase your post count for a signature campaign.

That is an outstanding question. Here's my best response:

So of the ~5 people that had access to the account, some have vested interest in the company, some were paid by the hour. The person that committed the crime, by no shear coincidence, was one of the people paid by the hour.

My best guess as to why this happened was so they could probably bill for work they themselves didn't do. For example, if they were billing 20 minutes per post (this is a totally random statement, by the way, not reality), they copy/paste a post that takes them 2 minutes, bill for the extra 18 minutes and save the rest of that time and go watch some Netflix. I do think this was a one-off as they started their work though but I could easily be proven wrong.

Literally the only job description was to be helpful and not spam. To me, the whole process has been mind boggling. If I/we had been a less helpful person to the community, as >95% of new gambling related accounts are, we could have just created an account the day we were ready to launch and launched and been done with it. Instead, we're grossly penalized for trying to be an outstanding member of the community initially. That was the entirety of the goal of the program as you asked. To start off with a good reputation rather than nothing. It's been heart breaking so far and I'm doing my best to make any amends so far... Hopefully that all makes sense.




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June 07, 2019, 04:57:03 PM
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Hi, two more questions if anyone could answer please:

Is the company of MintDice allowed to have someone bid on BitcoinTalk ads for the weekly auction that took no part in the usage of the MintDice banned account?

Is an individual that has never been banned from or related to the usage ban of any of these accounts allowed to create their own account to start a MintDice thread in the gambling section?

Thank you very much, I just want to make sure no rules are broken while waiting for resolution.




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Is the company of MintDice allowed to have someone bid on BitcoinTalk ads for the weekly auction that took no part in the usage of the MintDice banned account?
I don't see any reason not after re-reading the OP. The nice thing is if you are not allowed theymos will respond to the Bid explaining why it's been rejected. That's what I've seen on previous rounds.

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Is an individual that has never been banned from or related to the usage ban of any of these accounts allowed to create their own account to start a MintDice thread in the gambling section?
Seeing as Bans apply to the person, not the account someone not associated with those accounts could create a new account mintdiceDOH (homer accent) let's say, to start a service thread and act as community representative. I could be wrong, it would be subject to anyone claiming it is ban evasion and be reviewed by Mods.



On the whole your situation is weird. I get trying to fit a business model into the forum like this can be confusing. This is where the rules need to be applied with consideration given to all the factors, and not just the "good for a forum as a whole". I would say the fact your account hasn't been locked is a positive sign for it probably not being banned, along side MintDice. whatever direction this goes moving forward you should probably have any "reps" register their own variation of a "MintDice" account ex. "MintDiceSally", and just label them as legit in the OP.

I also likely would have gone a different route for the "trust". Leaving feedback that links your account to that one is good enough. I would go with a Neutral and say explain how you are associated, it looks better than implanting your reputation directly onto the account. Same goes for possible "Rep" accounts - you could leave them feedback as you trust them to represent you and your business.

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June 07, 2019, 05:34:47 PM
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Is the company of MintDice allowed to have someone bid on BitcoinTalk ads for the weekly auction that took no part in the usage of the MintDice banned account?
I don't see any reason not after re-reading the OP. The nice thing is if you are not allowed theymos will respond to the Bid explaining why it's been rejected. That's what I've seen on previous rounds.

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Is an individual that has never been banned from or related to the usage ban of any of these accounts allowed to create their own account to start a MintDice thread in the gambling section?
Seeing as Bans apply to the person, not the account someone not associated with those accounts could create a new account mintdiceDOH (homer accent) let's say, to start a service thread and act as community representative. I could be wrong, it would be subject to anyone claiming it is ban evasion and be reviewed by Mods.



On the whole your situation is weird. I get trying to fit a business model int the forum like this can be confusing. This is where the rules need to be applied with consideration given to all the factors, and not just the "good for a forum as a whole". I would say the fact account hasn't been locked is a positive sign for it probably not being banned, along side MintDice. whatever direction this goes moving forward you should probably have any "reps" register their own variation of a "MintDice" account ex. "MintDiceSally", and just label them as legit in the OP.

I also likely would have gone a different route for the "trust". Leaving feedback that links your account to that one is good enough. I would go with a Neutral and say explain how you are associated, it looks better than implanting your reputation directly onto the account. Same goes for possible "Rep" accounts - you could leave them feedback as you trust them to represent you and your business.

Thank you very much for that thoughtful response and I really like that neutral trust idea, never thought of that, I will update it.




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June 19, 2019, 07:58:12 PM
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Bump. Still looking ideally for permission to post from my personal account. Thank you.




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