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August 27, 2020, 09:52:17 AM
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September 07, 2020, 09:45:33 AM
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This looks interesting.   I'm always weary of playing with real money on telegram.  So many shady operations.   But this looks good, may give it a shot.
Thanks for your feedback   Wink
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September 07, 2020, 11:46:06 AM
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Would you mind if I ask how can I prove the fairness of the game? I'm curious how can you able to prove it in telegram, also why did you choose to open up a game in telegram rather than just creating your own dice website?

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September 07, 2020, 12:49:15 PM
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Would you mind if I ask how can I prove the fairness of the game? I'm curious how can you able to prove it in telegram, also why did you choose to open up a game in telegram rather than just creating your own dice website?

i tried reading old replies and few users ask the same question about veriying the fairbess but i cannot see a direct answer to this . the op only replies that they will try to implement that feature but that was over a year and until now there is still no clear update regarding to that . there are still users that continue playing on them and these users dont bother asking asking on the fairness anymore . they have their website , i check it but theres almost nothing on there  .
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September 07, 2020, 01:53:11 PM
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Would you mind if I ask how can I prove the fairness of the game? I'm curious how can you able to prove it in telegram, also why did you choose to open up a game in telegram rather than just creating your own dice website?

i tried reading old replies and few users ask the same question about veriying the fairbess but i cannot see a direct answer to this . the op only replies that they will try to implement that feature but that was over a year and until now there is still no clear update regarding to that . there are still users that continue playing on them and these users dont bother asking asking on the fairness anymore . they have their website , i check it but theres almost nothing on there  .

When you do try to look on his post history then you would really just see that "Thank for your feedback" line when someone do ask out about fairness.Since this is a Telegram bot based game then
it would be on the client side but it would be good if we do able to verify bets.

Also there are lots of similar telegram dice out there like this;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179671.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1575196.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114797.0

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September 07, 2020, 02:10:23 PM
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Would you mind if I ask how can I prove the fairness of the game? I'm curious how can you able to prove it in telegram, also why did you choose to open up a game in telegram rather than just creating your own dice website?
The advantage is that this game in telegram .
Always at hand.
The bot returns random values using the standard function.
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September 07, 2020, 07:21:37 PM
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Would you mind if I ask how can I prove the fairness of the game? I'm curious how can you able to prove it in telegram, also why did you choose to open up a game in telegram rather than just creating your own dice website?
The advantage is that this game in telegram .
Always at hand.
The bot returns random values using the standard function.


What do you mean standard function? I think I've already read that you once answered this but It's not clear what do you mean random values using the standard function? We just want to know how the bot came with the result to know if they are really fair and if so I would love to try it or play with it especially I'm using mobile mostly all the time.
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September 07, 2020, 08:54:58 PM
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Would you mind if I ask how can I prove the fairness of the game? I'm curious how can you able to prove it in telegram, also why did you choose to open up a game in telegram rather than just creating your own dice website?
The advantage is that this game in telegram .
Always at hand.
The bot returns random values using the standard function.


Having a game closer to your finger tips is what the next generation of the gaming industry is going to be about. The fact that this is held on Telegram is pretty cool and gives the player the chance to play even on short breaks.

If you think about it this is a great way to advertise a new casino by having select games held on Telegram with instant access.

As a result, a whole new sector of bot powered games on Telegram has now kicked in, and some of these can be seen here .

The way these guys have done it, so far it has been quite successful - keep up with the good work.
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September 07, 2020, 08:55:29 PM
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Would you mind if I ask how can I prove the fairness of the game? I'm curious how can you able to prove it in telegram, also why did you choose to open up a game in telegram rather than just creating your own dice website?
The advantage is that this game in telegram .
Always at hand.
The bot returns random values using the standard function.

You have a working website maybe you could generate ID for each bet then have a built in probably fair checker on your website I've seen that there's a lot of bets that is happening but wasn't able to check the fairness of their bets if you can't provide some info about its fairness i think no one is going to play on your game since it's what player is looking for the security and fairness of the casino or gaming platform.
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September 08, 2020, 02:57:02 AM
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You have a working website maybe you could generate ID for each bet then have a built in probably fair checker on your website I've seen that there's a lot of bets that is happening but wasn't able to check the fairness of their bets if you can't provide some info about its fairness i think no one is going to play on your game since it's what player is looking for the security and fairness of the casino or gaming platform.
As I can see with their stats website, they have bet IDs for each user.

https://bitbot.icu/

I wasn't able to read back about the verification for the fairness for bets of each users but OP seems to be active in answering inquiry. I'd like to know that too.

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September 08, 2020, 04:28:03 AM
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What do you mean standard function?

Would you mind if I ask how can I prove the fairness of the game?

Since a year ago OP never told us how fairness this game, He always said standard function [1], [2], [3], [4] and answer unrelated question [1], [2], [3] to directed More->Statistic

We shouldn't ask how fairness this game, because he can't answer it. so better do not try unfair games.

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September 08, 2020, 08:06:02 AM
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Would you mind if I ask how can I prove the fairness of the game? I'm curious how can you able to prove it in telegram, also why did you choose to open up a game in telegram rather than just creating your own dice website?
The advantage is that this game in telegram .
Always at hand.
The bot returns random values using the standard function.


What do you mean standard function? I think I've already read that you once answered this but It's not clear what do you mean random values using the standard function? We just want to know how the bot came with the result to know if they are really fair and if so I would love to try it or play with it especially I'm using mobile mostly all the time.
https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.rand.php
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September 15, 2020, 11:48:47 AM
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Would you mind if I ask how can I prove the fairness of the game? I'm curious how can you able to prove it in telegram, also why did you choose to open up a game in telegram rather than just creating your own dice website?
The advantage is that this game in telegram .
Always at hand.
The bot returns random values using the standard function.


Having a game closer to your finger tips is what the next generation of the gaming industry is going to be about. The fact that this is held on Telegram is pretty cool and gives the player the chance to play even on short breaks.

If you think about it this is a great way to advertise a new casino by having select games held on Telegram with instant access.

As a result, a whole new sector of bot powered games on Telegram has now kicked in, and some of these can be seen here .

The way these guys have done it, so far it has been quite successful - keep up with the good work.
Thanks for your feedback    Wink
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September 24, 2020, 08:32:02 AM
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Dear users! Today starts a new competition for maximum profit. The one who gets the maximum profit will receive from us 0.5 BTC. Results will be announced 10/08/2020 . Good luck to all!
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September 24, 2020, 10:33:54 AM
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What do you mean standard function? I think I've already read that you once answered this but It's not clear what do you mean random values using the standard function? We just want to know how the bot came with the result to know if they are really fair and if so I would love to try it or play with it especially I'm using mobile mostly all the time.

Pretty sure if it gives out random values to the players then it can not possibly be fair, so I am going to go ahead and say anyone that is using this telegram bot should not expect a fair result for their bets, and also the owner of the bot also should accept this and mention that in the first page to avoid any misunderstanding specially from beginners.
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September 24, 2020, 11:09:16 AM
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What do you mean standard function? I think I've already read that you once answered this but It's not clear what do you mean random values using the standard function? We just want to know how the bot came with the result to know if they are really fair and if so I would love to try it or play with it especially I'm using mobile mostly all the time.

Pretty sure if it gives out random values to the players then it can not possibly be fair, so I am going to go ahead and say anyone that is using this telegram bot should not expect a fair result for their bets, and also the owner of the bot also should accept this and mention that in the first page to avoid any misunderstanding specially from beginners.
Did you want the bot to give out non-random values?
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September 24, 2020, 12:10:45 PM
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What do you mean standard function? I think I've already read that you once answered this but It's not clear what do you mean random values using the standard function? We just want to know how the bot came with the result to know if they are really fair and if so I would love to try it or play with it especially I'm using mobile mostly all the time.

Pretty sure if it gives out random values to the players then it can not possibly be fair, so I am going to go ahead and say anyone that is using this telegram bot should not expect a fair result for their bets, and also the owner of the bot also should accept this and mention that in the first page to avoid any misunderstanding specially from beginners.
Did you want the bot to give out non-random values?

Random values do not guarantee fairness (given that it is proved to be totally random), you can not just use a random value generator on internet and just assume they are 100% or even 80% fair and that is because you don't know how they come up with the values and there's nothing transparent like blockchain to back it up, that's the whole idea behind gambling websites that use provably fair system and seed numbers that are being hashed and sent out to the players and even if players want they can add their own seed number to make sure that the gambling website is not tampering with the results, that way there is significantly less chance(still not zero) of any wrongdoing on the website part.
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September 24, 2020, 12:30:11 PM
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What do you mean standard function? I think I've already read that you once answered this but It's not clear what do you mean random values using the standard function? We just want to know how the bot came with the result to know if they are really fair and if so I would love to try it or play with it especially I'm using mobile mostly all the time.

Pretty sure if it gives out random values to the players then it can not possibly be fair, so I am going to go ahead and say anyone that is using this telegram bot should not expect a fair result for their bets, and also the owner of the bot also should accept this and mention that in the first page to avoid any misunderstanding specially from beginners.
Did you want the bot to give out non-random values?

Random values do not guarantee fairness (given that it is proved to be totally random), you can not just use a random value generator on internet and just assume they are 100% or even 80% fair and that is because you don't know how they come up with the values and there's nothing transparent like blockchain to back it up, that's the whole idea behind gambling websites that use provably fair system and seed numbers that are being hashed and sent out to the players and even if players want they can add their own seed number to make sure that the gambling website is not tampering with the results, that way there is significantly less chance(still not zero) of any wrongdoing on the website part.
https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.rand.php
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Random values do not guarantee fairness (given that it is proved to be totally random), you can not just use a random value generator on internet and just assume they are 100% or even 80% fair and that is because you don't know how they come up with the values and there's nothing transparent like blockchain to back it up, that's the whole idea behind gambling websites that use provably fair system and seed numbers that are being hashed and sent out to the players and even if players want they can add their own seed number to make sure that the gambling website is not tampering with the results, that way there is significantly less chance(still not zero) of any wrongdoing on the website part.

And worse, it is almost impossible to prove that these rngs are working as they should at most casinos and certainly for sure on Telegram. At least with provably fair dice most places show the code and it is clear how it works but for rngs,,, you can only trust audits you cannot see the code on your own with it all being closed source.

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September 25, 2020, 12:12:24 PM
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Random values do not guarantee fairness (given that it is proved to be totally random), you can not just use a random value generator on internet and just assume they are 100% or even 80% fair and that is because you don't know how they come up with the values and there's nothing transparent like blockchain to back it up, that's the whole idea behind gambling websites that use provably fair system and seed numbers that are being hashed and sent out to the players and even if players want they can add their own seed number to make sure that the gambling website is not tampering with the results, that way there is significantly less chance(still not zero) of any wrongdoing on the website part.

And worse, it is almost impossible to prove that these rngs are working as they should at most casinos and certainly for sure on Telegram. At least with provably fair dice most places show the code and it is clear how it works but for rngs,,, you can only trust audits you cannot see the code on your own with it all being closed source.
What prevents people from putting other code on the public display? And use not fair play?
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