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May 31, 2019, 02:19:13 PM
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Incident one:
Vod left a counter feedback for OG and seems like he is very concerned about risked BTC in positive feedback from users.
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Just a friendly counter to the 500 BTC <....>

His logic is that:
"Risked BTC" is how much money you could have lost if the person you're rating had turned out to be a scammer.  <== reference theymos post
https://archive.is/og5mW#selection-351.0-351.12

Originally it was 1500 BTC negative rating but he seems convinced two members to remove their risked amount and updated the new rating with 500 risked BTC negative feedback.


Incident two:
TMAN left a negative feedback for OG, 110,000 risked BTC
https://archive.is/og5mW#selection-1397.0-1397.16

But Vod has no headache here.

Conclusion: Although this risked BTC algorithm is not any more functional but question comes to mind that:
Why Vod finds problem in positive feedbacks left to a person who held 500 BTC for the forum and returned it when asked?

Additional: If a positive countered by a negative then Vod needs to counter the negative of TMAN with a positive feedback for OgNasty. Or Vod personally verified the tx of the 110,000 BTC deal in between TMAN and OgNasty?

Community inputs please also Vod, TMAN, OG, Thule, CH and The-One-Above-All all are welcome. I do not have a local rules LOL
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May 31, 2019, 02:22:15 PM
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Oh wow you are correct, that was left long before I was on DT. Checking the reference it seems the tag should stand to me, issue being that if I remove nd re tag it will affect another DT members trust rating.

I’ll act on this based on senior community input

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May 31, 2019, 02:30:59 PM
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Oh wow you are correct, that was left long before I was on DT. Checking the reference it seems the tag should stand to me, issue being that if I remove nd re tag it will affect another DT members trust rating.

I’ll act on this based on senior community input
Great bud, I know you will and you should revise it (come on 500 risked BTC returned) however I am interested to know Vod's statement here. Has he never noticed it before or he just kept himself silent?

He seems very concern about risked BTC amounts in feedbacks even though it does not have any mathematical impact anymore.
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May 31, 2019, 03:07:20 PM
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Oh wow you are correct, that was left long before I was on DT. Checking the reference it seems the tag should stand to me, issue being that if I remove nd re tag it will affect another DT members trust rating.

I’ll act on this based on senior community input

All your trust ratings for me are bullshit, so why limit it to this one case?

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May 31, 2019, 07:29:52 PM
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Oh wow you are correct, that was left long before I was on DT. Checking the reference it seems the tag should stand to me, issue being that if I remove nd re tag it will affect another DT members trust rating.

I’ll act on this based on senior community input

I think once you get onto DT, you should correct that error.   In the other thread, a lot of senior/legendary and staff have stated you should only claim what you really risk.   

Don't worry about hurting a trust rating.   Theymos has stated old ratings have more value.  A little pain now for less pain later.  Smiley

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June 04, 2019, 11:53:56 AM
Last edit: June 04, 2019, 12:09:24 PM by mightyDTs
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Incident two:
TMAN left a negative feedback for OG, 110,000 risked BTC
https://archive.is/og5mW#selection-1397.0-1397.16

I can see still TMAN's risked btc negative feedback stands. Seeing Vod concerns about risked BTC amount and very much active to leave negative to counter a positive risked BTC feedback, can't we expect him to leave a positive to counter TMAN's negative feedback?

What are the reasons for Vod to have it unnoticed (which is not of course) or ignored (This must be the case)?
Can we say that Vod leaves feedback to satisfy his personal interest?  (It's risky to say it coz Lauda will come and find an excuse to tag the user accusing that they are spreading FUD, troll and attacker to honest members of the forum and that will make them untrustworthy. Also some puppet like TheUltraElite will find some encouragement too.)


Don't worry about hurting a trust rating.   Theymos has stated old ratings have more value.  A little pain now for less pain later.  Smiley
I see suggestion but no action in this case.

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June 04, 2019, 09:35:48 PM
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I don't think that it's a big deal to put ridiculous values in that field, though probably you shouldn't. For reporting something second-hand, there's never been a standard, and as far as I'm concerned you can do whatever you want. Since it doesn't actually affect anything, it's basically the same to have riskedBTC=1 with a comment of "he stole BTC" as to just say in the comment "he stole 1 BTC".

/thread. Stop contriving issues around things that you're blowing out of proportion.

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June 06, 2019, 12:29:32 AM
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Since it doesn't actually affect anything

Well, it does affect something, outside the forum.  Smiley  I developed a system to track the BTC price at the time of the feedback, and then rank profiles based on how many USD they claim to have risked.   It would be just another indicator of someone who was not 100% honest.

Now that you may remove the stat altogether, I have put it on hold.    

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June 06, 2019, 11:12:36 AM
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/thread. Stop contriving issues around things that you're blowing out of proportion.
Obviously I know it  but you are missing my point here. Vod was very interested to counter OG with a red tag just because some users were putting risked BTC in their positive feedback but when it's coming with TMAN, Vod cleverly ignoring it.

Since it doesn't actually affect anything

Well, it does affect something, outside the forum.  Smiley  I developed a system to track the BTC price at the time of the feedback, and then rank profiles based on how many USD they claim to have risked.   It would be just another indicator of someone who was not 100% honest.

Now that you may remove the stat altogether, I have put it on hold.    
Forget about your system, when you countered OG then what was in your mind?
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June 06, 2019, 12:19:47 PM
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Oh wow you are correct, that was left long before I was on DT. Checking the reference it seems the tag should stand to me, issue being that if I remove nd re tag it will affect another DT members trust rating.

I’ll act on this based on senior community input
See, TMAN is prone to fly off the handle but can be reined back in when his emotional outsquirts get pointed out to him.  Nice job, TMAN. 

Not likely Vod is going to leave a counter positive for OgNasty, regardless of whether the neg on him was righteous or not.  I get where you're going with this, OP, but if you're trying to point out biases and so forth among DT members....well, they exist and sometimes things people do aren't fair.  While I don't condone unfair acts, I do accept their existence and know that things aren't ever going to be perfect.

Obviously I know it  but you are missing my point here. Vod was very interested to counter OG with a red tag just because some users were putting risked BTC in their positive feedback but when it's coming with TMAN, Vod cleverly ignoring it.
Yep.  And that's just the way it is, as glib and dismissive as that sounds.  I highly doubt Vod is going to stick up for injustices done to OgNasty at this point.

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