i got scammed for ETC 79 on luckygames.io

[CASlO]

This issue has been resolved. This guy was unable to provide a signed message from any of the addresses found in the transaction proofs he provided. Furthemore, the real owner of the account already has withdrawn his ETC to one of the address found in one of "siemdagmaer" deposit transaction proofs he used, which he obtained by apparently phishing the original owner.

This was one of transaction this guy used as proof : https://gastracker.io/tx/0x20bc654cc14b33643eafbf9c53f54c171c6eb5d090e648788823672e5a37bafc


This was the withdrawal made after the account was restored to the original owner: http://gastracker.io/tx/0xc07b542df05eee7ae59faf1b6a5e64e5ece27fa5c9eac2322de455e1736e3aed

So... yeah, nice try, better luck next time.

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[RajeshKarwa]

Luckygames is a know scam!

In future better play with consumer protection service inclusive.

Oh really ? and look how trustworthy person is making this statement.  

Grow up man and do something which can help the crypto community. Good Luck !! 

[siemdagmaer]

what i can do now ,

[RajeshKarwa]

what i can do now ,

Encash the 80 ETC which is withdrawn in your own address (as per your own claim) only and have grand party. 

[marlboroza]

https://prnt.sc/nwhyzk

As I can see numbers are the same, so coins are in account owner's wallet. I don't really understand this:

After a thorough check we found that the account does not belong to you and so it has been permanently suspended and no chance of recovery. We also know that you have trespassed on other accounts and also suspended.

We do not give hackers opportunities on our site and we do not accept such attitudes here.

No chance of recovery - If account was hacked then they should return it to original owner, unless it wasn't hacked, OP broke "multiaccounting" rule and they decided to close OP's account, take OP's funds and after scam accusation they sent coins back to that address.

It is hard to say which side is telling the (complete)truth, but if hacking is in question I don't think hacker would came here to complain....

[RajeshKarwa]

@marlboroza

Welcome Mr. Investigator.

Please make some more efforts in investigation and find out that there are 2 addresses which used to deposit funds in the account and the ownership claimed by him. Don't be lazy. 

I bet once you make proper investigation, nothing will be hard to understand. Even dumbest person can understand this clearly. 

Even after withdrawal of funds (In account which is claimed by him as owner), the scammer keep on crying, why ?  

As per his details provided for ownership, first time he stated that he can not give IP because he was using VPN, Second time he stated that he was accessing account from a cyber cafe and third time he even provided IP address too. You think this is believable ?? 

[marlboroza]

Please make some more efforts in investigation and find out that there are 2 addresses which used to deposit funds in the account and the ownership claimed by him. Don't be lazy.  

Oh, this is correct transaction http://gastracker.io/tx/0x557e18b23b6f955ea515494119966bd5bd07313702927eb1be9dd2a2a36fb11f , my mistake.

Even after withdrawal of funds (In account which is claimed by him as owner), the scammer keep on crying, why ?  

As per his details provided for ownership, first time he stated that he can not give IP because he was using VPN, Second time he stated that he was accessing account from a cyber cafe and third time he even provided IP address too. You think this is believable ??  

If we are talking about site whose owner rigged result to cheat player in EV+ game, I think everything is possible. Funds have been returned after this accusation, or? I will believe it if/when I see signed message from deposit address.

[MandyViki]

The issues i see in case of Mr. Siemdagmaer were:

1. Failure to provide complete details at the time of account restoration.
2. Kept on creating multiple accounts when the first thread itself had received a reply. (Unnecessarily trying to force an action).
3. No knowledge of receiving his funds back in his wallet. (Even after getting the transaction proof, he enquires what he can do now, which is totally irrelevant).

To me all sites are rigged when I am losing a lot and legit when I am winning a lot.
So that's an observation based on personal experience.
Normal human tendency is to see fault in others before reflecting on self.
My understanding of scam websites is simple. Those who do not give any withdraws at any time. Otherwise they are legit.
And Luckygames surely fits in the legit category (100%) because I personally have withdrawn a lot more than the amount I ever deposited.
and am still doing it periodically. And I have been on the website for 575 days since registration now.

[RajeshKarwa]

Please make some more efforts in investigation and find out that there are 2 addresses which used to deposit funds in the account and the ownership claimed by him. Don't be lazy. 

Oh, this is correct transaction http://gastracker.io/tx/0x557e18b23b6f955ea515494119966bd5bd07313702927eb1be9dd2a2a36fb11f , my mistake.

Even after withdrawal of funds (In account which is claimed by him as owner), the scammer keep on crying, why ? 

As per his details provided for ownership, first time he stated that he can not give IP because he was using VPN, Second time he stated that he was accessing account from a cyber cafe and third time he even provided IP address too. You think this is believable ?? 

If we are talking about site whose owner rigged result to cheat player in EV+ game, I think everything is possible. Funds have been returned after this accusation, or? I will believe it if/when I see signed message from deposit address.

I think luckygames is responsible to provide facts and findings to it's genuine users and that job they are doing very well from last 2 years.

I don't feel the need to satisfy time killer frustrated investigators who always like to jump in others issues without checking proper facts.

[Avirunes]

My understanding of scam websites is simple. Those who do not give any withdraws at any time. Otherwise they are legit.
And Luckygames surely fits in the legit category (100%) because I personally have withdrawn a lot more than the amount I ever deposited.
and am still doing it periodically. And I have been on the website for 575 days since registration now.

Well your personal experience might have been good but don't forget that the they also agreed that they scammed someone by rigging results. Still you find it legit? I don't know if you are part of luckygames team or not but still you should talk after taking other incidents into account as well.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696880.msg20820211#msg20820211

[marlboroza]

I think luckygames is responsible to provide facts and findings to it's genuine users and that job they are doing very well from last 2 years.

I wouldn't know that, as I said, I don't trust gambling sites who have been caught cheating players. It is not my fault that some people don't find cheating players wrong...probably because "it happened to the other guy".

I don't feel the need to satisfy time killer frustrated investigators who always like to jump in others issues without checking proper facts.

Read above.

[MandyViki]

they also agreed that they scammed someone by rigging results. Still you find it legit? I don't know if you are part of luckygames team or not but still you should talk after taking other incidents into account as well.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696880.msg20820211#msg20820211

I do know about that incident and have come across a lot more on luckygames forum.
However, an innocent wasn't scammed but a scammer himself and the admin himself recounted the details regarding it.
Haven't come across a system which cannot be broken otherwise the internet would be free of hackers and such.

I am certainly not the guy who will put forward the right cheek if I get slapped on the left.
So, I find the admins action justifiable.
Personally, I would wish that such scammers go through a perpetual bad luck all their life, but such is never the case and they do always manage to dupe someone.

However, I apologise for getting side tracked and do believe my current comment is irrelevant to the discussion. So feel free to delete, if the mods deem so.

[CASlO]

It is hard to say which side is telling the (complete)truth, but if hacking is in question I don't think hacker would came here to complain....

Well, if he believes he can possible get 79 ETC for free, i think he would. It's worth the effort don't you think?

Funds have been returned after this accusation, or? I will believe it if/when I see signed message from deposits address.

OP has been asked to sign a message in here and on the site's forum. And he hasn't yet, he claims he does not know how...but then again, how can you sign a message with an address you don't own Notice how his only response after learning that the funds have been withdrawn back to one of the addresses(which OP supposedly owns) used to deposit is

what i can do now ,

  And poof! he seemed to dissappear after that. Because what's the point in trying to steal an empty account?