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June 02, 2019, 11:09:29 AM
Last edit: June 02, 2019, 02:58:05 PM by agentF
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Hello,

I need many ideas for the most efficient business model for a scoter rental project,  get your inspirations from https://www.bird.co/ AND https://www.li.me/electric-scooter, basically to tokenize the whole idea.

I dont need a long document only ideas and basically to know the life CYCLE of the coins, for example, people could buy the tokens with their credit card, getting the tokens credited in their account, and each token is equal a driving time.

I'm paying 20$ for each idea, simple comment here "check your my message" and i will send you 50$ - no trolling please.

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June 02, 2019, 11:34:39 AM
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1. People buy tokens using debit, credit and other more social payment apps, such as Venmo and PayPal. Alternatively, customers can purchase ride time or subscriptions directly with these payments options (without any discount)

2. With the tokens, customers are able to either rent scooters for a fixed period, or they can stake their tokens to reduce the circulating supply, hence driving up demand. When paying for rentals with the ICO token, customers will get a reduced fee of around 20-50%. Staking the tokens will drive up their value on the exchange, while stakers are awarded riding credit depending on the amount of tokens staked and for how long.

e.g. stake 100 tokens for 30 days, receive 1 free hour. 1,000 tokens for 30 days = 11 free hours. Further levels will be added in an attempt to lock up a good fraction of the tokens.

3. Tokens that are used to pay for rides will be burned, further decreasing the available supply, increasing their value on exchanges and giving traders a reason to hodl their tokens for the long term. This could be combined with regular buy-backs using funds from fiat paying customers, maintaining and improving the token value on exchanges.

4. Plan additional functionality for the token, for example, allowing game makers such as Pokemon Go, Parallel Kingdon etc to integrate with the app, providing an incentive for those getting around in the game using your scooters.

Address for payment: 1Jyj8t4hLzgbiVLmmbWMRhdo31QGQK415x
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June 02, 2019, 11:46:16 AM
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Maybe you can get some with the Drife model.
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June 02, 2019, 11:49:44 AM
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Maybe you can get some with the Drife model.

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June 02, 2019, 11:55:37 AM
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Maybe you can get some with the Drife model.
The link isn't working.

Apologies for that. The link has been edited. It should be working now.
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June 02, 2019, 11:59:19 AM
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I dont need a long document only ideas and basically to know the life CYCLE of the coins, for example, people could buy the tokens with their credit card, getting the tokens credited in their account, and each token is equal a driving time.
As a rule of thumb: if you can do something without a blockchain, you shouldn't use a blockchain.
In this case, you can just sell "hours": the user buys credit that allows him to use the scooter for a certain number of hours. A centralized database can handle this, so there's no need for a (decentralized) tokenized system.

Unless of course you want to go full-on ICO, claim you're going to disrupt the rental industry, cash a few millions, and disappear without ever completing the project. Because this cynical summary is the reality of almost every token project ever created.

As an example of a company doing something similar: Greenwheels offers subscriptions for rental cars. You can choose between several combinations of fixed fee per month, per kilometer or per hour. It allows renting a car for less than an hour, and you only pay for the time you use it. A lower fee per month means a higher fee per km, and users who use it more often can opt for a higher monthly and lower usage fee.
This works without blockchain, it's a "conventional" company which uses a "conventional" database.

One reason to use cryptographic tokens would be to allow anyone to transfer the tokens P2P in an app, but I assume you want to know who's using your scooters (for insurance purposes). That takes away the main advantage tokens could offer.

Update: If you want to pay me for this, I'll post my addy Tongue
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June 02, 2019, 01:40:46 PM
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1. People buy tokens using debit, credit and other more social payment apps, such as Venmo and PayPal. Alternatively, customers can purchase ride time or subscriptions directly with these payments options (without any discount)

2. With the tokens, customers are able to either rent scooters for a fixed period, or they can stake their tokens to reduce the circulating supply, hence driving up demand. When paying for rentals with the ICO token, customers will get a reduced fee of around 20-50%. Staking the tokens will drive up their value on the exchange, while stakers are awarded riding credit depending on the amount of tokens staked and for how long.

e.g. stake 100 tokens for 30 days, receive 1 free hour. 1,000 tokens for 30 days = 11 free hours. Further levels will be added in an attempt to lock up a good fraction of the tokens.

3. Tokens that are used to pay for rides will be burned, further decreasing the available supply, increasing their value on exchanges and giving traders a reason to hodl their tokens for the long term. This could be combined with regular buy-backs using funds from fiat paying customers, maintaining and improving the token value on exchanges.

4. Plan additional functionality for the token, for example, allowing game makers such as Pokemon Go, Parallel Kingdon etc to integrate with the app, providing an incentive for those getting around in the game using your scooters.

Address for payment: 1Jyj8t4hLzgbiVLmmbWMRhdo31QGQK415x

50$ been sent to 1Jyj8t4hLzgbiVLmmbWMRhdo31QGQK415x - Thank you.

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June 02, 2019, 01:41:23 PM
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I dont need a long document only ideas and basically to know the life CYCLE of the coins, for example, people could buy the tokens with their credit card, getting the tokens credited in their account, and each token is equal a driving time.
As a rule of thumb: if you can do something without a blockchain, you shouldn't use a blockchain.
In this case, you can just sell "hours": the user buys credit that allows him to use the scooter for a certain number of hours. A centralized database can handle this, so there's no need for a (decentralized) tokenized system.

Unless of course you want to go full-on ICO, claim you're going to disrupt the rental industry, cash a few millions, and disappear without ever completing the project. Because this cynical summary is the reality of almost every token project ever created.

As an example of a company doing something similar: Greenwheels offers subscriptions for rental cars. You can choose between several combinations of fixed fee per month, per kilometer or per hour. It allows renting a car for less than an hour, and you only pay for the time you use it. A lower fee per month means a higher fee per km, and users who use it more often can opt for a higher monthly and lower usage fee.
This works without blockchain, it's a "conventional" company which uses a "conventional" database.

One reason to use cryptographic tokens would be to allow anyone to transfer the tokens P2P in an app, but I assume you want to know who's using your scooters (for insurance purposes). That takes away the main advantage tokens could offer.

Update: If you want to pay me for this, I'll post my addy Tongue

Add me your address, I said for every logic explanation i will be paying. My word is my bond.

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June 02, 2019, 02:27:08 PM
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I need many ideas for the most efficient business model for a scoter rental project,  get your inspirations from https://www.bird.co/ AND https://www.li.me/electric-scooter, basically to tokenize the whole idea.

If you're creating a utility token just like what Parodium described above, I think it's a weak idea. There's no need for tokens or blockchain just because you want your customer to rent your scooter. You can use a centralized database for that, and use a coupon/promo code as a bonus for long-term or new users. As LoyceV said, if you can replace it with a common database, there's no need to force that idea on a blockchain, as most of the times it results in weak demand.

A lot of ICO projects try to do that and a lot of them have a terrible price after listing. You might argue that it happened because the product is not yet ready, however, most users are not familiar with crypto yet, so in the end, your tokens would end up being a hindrance to them. They'd probably think why would you not allow them to pay directly with the debit card directly, instead of requesting your customer to pay in debit card and then buy tokens to rent the scooter.

Another idea that you might want to try is to tokenize a share for that business and allows investors to manage their investment cycle directly through blockchain. So, you'll need to create security tokens, and then open up a portal as WeOwn did to allows your investors to buy a share, sell or trade it, manage their dividends, and so on. That will give your token a better purpose as it certainly will increase the flexibility for investors to manage their investment, while if you plan to go for utility tokens, the demands would be really weak (assuming crypto is not yet considered as a payment tool and most people would probably prefer to use standard debit/credit payment to rent your scooter).



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June 02, 2019, 02:49:35 PM
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I will share a simple but effective idea in my opinion.
To attract more people into this cycle, you can use different type of staking (reward in fact) model. Both the party rider and customer will use the service.
A mobile based software where people will be able to search for ride. People registered with the system as a rider will get a reward for using the TOKEN as payment system as well as the customer will also receive reward for using the TOKEN to pay the rider.
Imagine, user A is looking for ride. In the traditional system, they can hire someone for the ride and pay them. On the other hand, rider will get the fare only.
What if the system will reward them with the token after each of the successful ride complete. Both the rider and customer will get extra token for using the system.

Scenerio-
User A has put a query for a ride on your software, Rider X accept the ride. The fare is 100 TOKEN. After the ride, since they have used the TOKEN as payment, both will get 20 TOKEN back into their account on the mobile software.

I hope you like the idea.

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Since i got many requests, i will be paying 20$ instead of 50$

I apologize for that, but i got many pm's and paid most of them.

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1. People buy tokens using debit, credit and other more social payment apps, such as Venmo and PayPal. Alternatively, customers can purchase ride time or subscriptions directly with these payments options (without any discount)

2. With the tokens, customers are able to either rent scooters for a fixed period, or they can stake their tokens to reduce the circulating supply, hence driving up demand. When paying for rentals with the ICO token, customers will get a reduced fee of around 20-50%. Staking the tokens will drive up their value on the exchange, while stakers are awarded riding credit depending on the amount of tokens staked and for how long.

e.g. stake 100 tokens for 30 days, receive 1 free hour. 1,000 tokens for 30 days = 11 free hours. Further levels will be added in an attempt to lock up a good fraction of the tokens.

3. Tokens that are used to pay for rides will be burned, further decreasing the available supply, increasing their value on exchanges and giving traders a reason to hodl their tokens for the long term. This could be combined with regular buy-backs using funds from fiat paying customers, maintaining and improving the token value on exchanges.

4. Plan additional functionality for the token, for example, allowing game makers such as Pokemon Go, Parallel Kingdon etc to integrate with the app, providing an incentive for those getting around in the game using your scooters.

Address for payment: 1Jyj8t4hLzgbiVLmmbWMRhdo31QGQK415x

50$ been sent to 1Jyj8t4hLzgbiVLmmbWMRhdo31QGQK415x - Thank you.

Received with thanks, if you need more let me know, I can generate ideas all day.

I can also conceptualize and write the entire whitepaper if necessary, since I'm a blockchain copywriter.
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I'll bite.

Idea 1: Rent out electric scooters and pay the people that rent it in tokens for "going green" Scooters are economical so you can share a % of your profits in tokens with your riders. Tie up with petrol pumps or recharge stations to accept your tokens from customers for goods & services they provide - like gas / electric cost, accessories etc.

Idea 2: In underdeveloped parts of many developed nations and developing countries alike people can't afford expensive rides. So they jerry-rig their scooters into becoming a sort of modified low-cost public transport system.

So you can create a zero down payment scooter subscription model. Basically, let people "subscribe" to your scooter without paying a hefty down payment to buy them, instead, they subscribe for a few days (maybe a lock-in period of 30 - 180 days). At the end of their subscription, people could also buy the scooter they subscribed to.

You can create your own token system that can be used to pay for the scooter subscriptions and everything related. Basically, you would create a buyback system where users would buy your tokens to pay you with it.

Idea 3: There is a HUGE demand for tiffin supply vehicles in urban areas. Especially in countries like India where home cooked food has more importance over street food. And its a thriving industry in itself.

Scooters and mopeds are efficient, have large storages spaces and can easily manoeuvre in city traffic. Simply follow the demand. Tiffin transporters can use your scooter or moped for delivery. Plugging in your token here would be as simple as the first idea, you create your own token's demand by taking payment in your own tokens.


Well that was what I could think of. If I get any more ideas I'll PM you.

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June 02, 2019, 08:23:10 PM
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If you want to credit me or not it is the same thing but it would be nice to do so.

So let's start.

The good part with tokens is that you can work out with taxes. That would be awesome if you're going to play your card well. Now it depends where are you from.

Speaking that is about scooters for sure you're not from Canada or USA for sure.

Renting scouter is arround for some time, I have travelled all arround the world for some years and this is my job, travelling, renting scouters is something that i am doing at least 2 times a week at least in south east asia (when i get there).

But if I were to be you, I would do it different from the others.

The main problem in this is business is to have enough places for scooters. I find sometimes annoying to take the scooter from point X go to Y and have to come to X to leave it there. Inside the cities in Eastern Europe and Central europe is lime with the electric small 2 wheel scooter (can't find the equivalent in english).

There is lime as example, you see one left on the street. Scan the QR code, do the account fast with facebook, add your card and that's it. You're ready to go until your credit ends. When your credit ends you leave it there, they have a tracking system and if no one is picking it up for 2 hours, someone will come and take it to a good spot again.

I am not sure about what kind of scouters you're speaking tho, but this might look ok as system ok riding.

Now regarding payment, there should be a fixed rate for sure.. I strongly don't recomend to do an ICO only if you want to raise funds, if you have the money already don't do it.

So, what I propose, create a centralised token, like discount points on a website, you buy smth you get 5 amazon points, but create a system where people buy credits and just spent it.

with crypto, if this is the case, you can't control the value and point of staking or interest from the customers is totally boring. But you can add crypto payment and say -50% discount for crypto users up to a Z ammount. Or pay with crypto and get 10 minutes free.

People should not buy your coin with credit card and you to go live with it. People will start to sell stolen funds with their debit cards and you'll get fucked. Will start to sell tokens through the app at 50% because they need the funds, you get to lose the money and others make profit. I sell KYC accounts and i hear all the possible stories. people make fake uber drives at make thousands of usd daily.

And anyhow controlling the value of the token on the market is a business that can bankrupt you.

This is it. Well, I have way more ideas but eh. It's been a while since my main business ended because it got too high for me to handle, it was profitable, i made more money than what i could've hoped from nothing (literally nothing, just a few free weeks, no budget).

There are 2 ways: spend money to make money or be smart and make money.

Things such as be lucky and do money don't quite work for long term anyhow i don't think you got help from the last words.

I am a PR as studies unfortunately and right now i am consultant for some businesses, to all i started for free and now they pay me just to keep helping them out.

My btc address:

18tGiKzWkVzKDEEbkYYfXvwPkpaZWdPQie

I will edit later on my post for typos and to explain better what i meant
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June 02, 2019, 08:47:48 PM
Last edit: June 02, 2019, 08:58:28 PM by agentF
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1. People buy tokens using debit, credit and other more social payment apps, such as Venmo and PayPal. Alternatively, customers can purchase ride time or subscriptions directly with these payments options (without any discount)

2. With the tokens, customers are able to either rent scooters for a fixed period, or they can stake their tokens to reduce the circulating supply, hence driving up demand. When paying for rentals with the ICO token, customers will get a reduced fee of around 20-50%. Staking the tokens will drive up their value on the exchange, while stakers are awarded riding credit depending on the amount of tokens staked and for how long.

e.g. stake 100 tokens for 30 days, receive 1 free hour. 1,000 tokens for 30 days = 11 free hours. Further levels will be added in an attempt to lock up a good fraction of the tokens.

3. Tokens that are used to pay for rides will be burned, further decreasing the available supply, increasing their value on exchanges and giving traders a reason to hodl their tokens for the long term. This could be combined with regular buy-backs using funds from fiat paying customers, maintaining and improving the token value on exchanges.

4. Plan additional functionality for the token, for example, allowing game makers such as Pokemon Go, Parallel Kingdon etc to integrate with the app, providing an incentive for those getting around in the game using your scooters.

Address for payment: 1Jyj8t4hLzgbiVLmmbWMRhdo31QGQK415x

I will most definitely contact you. I want to sort everything.

50$ been sent to 1Jyj8t4hLzgbiVLmmbWMRhdo31QGQK415x - Thank you.

Received with thanks, if you need more let me know, I can generate ideas all day.

I can also conceptualize and write the entire whitepaper if necessary, since I'm a blockchain copywriter.

I will surely contact you shortly, thanks for your help.

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June 02, 2019, 09:29:30 PM
Last edit: June 05, 2019, 02:46:48 PM by DarkDays
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I've seen this kind of crowdsourcing of ideas before. But this forum is so full of egomaniacs, I never thought I'd see one here.

So I'll take my shot at the $20 bucks. In the meantime, as the previous entries are paid out, I'll compose my idea.

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Considering how some participants have no made any confirmations of payments, namely josephdd1, fer3219, RapTarX, Matt9301, SooEz4Me.
I'd hold back. Not that I have a million dollar idea, I just don't want to waste time unnecessarily.
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June 02, 2019, 09:47:39 PM
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I will share a simple but effective idea in my opinion.
To attract more people into this cycle, you can use different type of staking (reward in fact) model. Both the party rider and customer will use the service.
A mobile based software where people will be able to search for ride. People registered with the system as a rider will get a reward for using the TOKEN as payment system as well as the customer will also receive reward for using the TOKEN to pay the rider.
Imagine, user A is looking for ride. In the traditional system, they can hire someone for the ride and pay them. On the other hand, rider will get the fare only.
What if the system will reward them with the token after each of the successful ride complete. Both the rider and customer will get extra token for using the system.

Scenerio-
User A has put a query for a ride on your software, Rider X accept the ride. The fare is 100 TOKEN. After the ride, since they have used the TOKEN as payment, both will get 20 TOKEN back into their account on the mobile software.

I hope you like the idea.

Addy- 356KJs8UWe3j2DfxMyNubYMcdHzLKQGJgm

20$ sent to 356KJs8UWe3j2DfxMyNubYMcdHzLKQGJgm

I'll bite.

Idea 1: Rent out electric scooters and pay the people that rent it in tokens for "going green" Scooters are economical so you can share a % of your profits in tokens with your riders. Tie up with petrol pumps or recharge stations to accept your tokens from customers for goods & services they provide - like gas / electric cost, accessories etc.

Idea 2: In underdeveloped parts of many developed nations and developing countries alike people can't afford expensive rides. So they jerry-rig their scooters into becoming a sort of modified low-cost public transport system.

So you can create a zero down payment scooter subscription model. Basically, let people "subscribe" to your scooter without paying a hefty down payment to buy them, instead, they subscribe for a few days (maybe a lock-in period of 30 - 180 days). At the end of their subscription, people could also buy the scooter they subscribed to.

You can create your own token system that can be used to pay for the scooter subscriptions and everything related. Basically, you would create a buyback system where users would buy your tokens to pay you with it.

Idea 3: There is a HUGE demand for tiffin supply vehicles in urban areas. Especially in countries like India where home cooked food has more importance over street food. And its a thriving industry in itself.

Scooters and mopeds are efficient, have large storages spaces and can easily manoeuvre in city traffic. Simply follow the demand. Tiffin transporters can use your scooter or moped for delivery. Plugging in your token here would be as simple as the first idea, you create your own token's demand by taking payment in your own tokens.


Well that was what I could think of. If I get any more ideas I'll PM you.

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June 02, 2019, 09:49:40 PM
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If you want to credit me or not it is the same thing but it would be nice to do so.

So let's start.

The good part with tokens is that you can work out with taxes. That would be awesome if you're going to play your card well. Now it depends where are you from.

Speaking that is about scooters for sure you're not from Canada or USA for sure.

Renting scouter is arround for some time, I have travelled all arround the world for some years and this is my job, travelling, renting scouters is something that i am doing at least 2 times a week at least in south east asia (when i get there).

But if I were to be you, I would do it different from the others.

The main problem in this is business is to have enough places for scooters. I find sometimes annoying to take the scooter from point X go to Y and have to come to X to leave it there. Inside the cities in Eastern Europe and Central europe is lime with the electric small 2 wheel scooter (can't find the equivalent in english).

There is lime as example, you see one left on the street. Scan the QR code, do the account fast with facebook, add your card and that's it. You're ready to go until your credit ends. When your credit ends you leave it there, they have a tracking system and if no one is picking it up for 2 hours, someone will come and take it to a good spot again.

I am not sure about what kind of scouters you're speaking tho, but this might look ok as system ok riding.

Now regarding payment, there should be a fixed rate for sure.. I strongly don't recomend to do an ICO only if you want to raise funds, if you have the money already don't do it.

So, what I propose, create a centralised token, like discount points on a website, you buy smth you get 5 amazon points, but create a system where people buy credits and just spent it.

with crypto, if this is the case, you can't control the value and point of staking or interest from the customers is totally boring. But you can add crypto payment and say -50% discount for crypto users up to a Z ammount. Or pay with crypto and get 10 minutes free.

People should not buy your coin with credit card and you to go live with it. People will start to sell stolen funds with their debit cards and you'll get fucked. Will start to sell tokens through the app at 50% because they need the funds, you get to lose the money and others make profit. I sell KYC accounts and i hear all the possible stories. people make fake uber drives at make thousands of usd daily.

And anyhow controlling the value of the token on the market is a business that can bankrupt you.

This is it. Well, I have way more ideas but eh. It's been a while since my main business ended because it got too high for me to handle, it was profitable, i made more money than what i could've hoped from nothing (literally nothing, just a few free weeks, no budget).

There are 2 ways: spend money to make money or be smart and make money.

Things such as be lucky and do money don't quite work for long term anyhow i don't think you got help from the last words.

I am a PR as studies unfortunately and right now i am consultant for some businesses, to all i started for free and now they pay me just to keep helping them out.

My btc address:

18tGiKzWkVzKDEEbkYYfXvwPkpaZWdPQie

I will edit later on my post for typos and to explain better what i meant

Although i clearly stated i will not send 20$ for newbies accounts, you will be my only exception.

20$ sent to  18tGiKzWkVzKDEEbkYYfXvwPkpaZWdPQie

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well this is new..   Shocked Shocked

Okay here's my idea,
You know how on wheel street advertising is so uneconomical? Well that's because no one has tried using it with scooters.

Typical on wheel advertisements employ the use of large trucks, but you could essentially have an army of 3 wheel scooters advertisement army, a lot like these :




You may ask why 3 wheels instead of regular scooters like in the picture. Simply because I have had bad experience riding scooters. They are cheap and inexpensive to ride yes but they are also very unstable. So if you are advertising with your scooters, then it can be through your token credits that must advertisers buy.

Here is where you can capitalize, instead of taking back the coins like others suggested, you can simply attach advertisement services to that coin. like buy x amount of coins and get x amount of days worth in ads. That way you dont have to worry about the economic model of buying back tokens and you can do the same thing with other forms of advertisement, online or outdoors.. whatever

Here's my wallet address : 36eSYDQkAgdXssf9j4n4fnqwTBwh9dD9pB

thanks in advance
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June 02, 2019, 10:29:05 PM
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20$ sent to 1LoganKek113i3QMV94MiQ629NFc5Biva6

Damn! Thanks.

I do recommend speaking to Parodium. And if you want to speak to me, then I'd be glad to speak with you regarding this as well.


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