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June 05, 2019, 08:46:41 PM
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Lightning Network's popularity has been growing for some time now. More and more threads will be created about it due to growing interest in new scaling solutions. My suggestion is to create a separate board dedicated to the Lightning Network. This will make finding information on it easier for some people.

Recent/Popular threads about the Lightning Network

The Lightning Network FAQ
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4638321.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5149189.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5149623.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150285.0

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June 05, 2019, 09:12:21 PM
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I'm also interested, to have a separated place where I can search for information about the Lightning Network.
The challange will be to keep it free from spam and shitposts so good luck BitCryptex Smiley
I will also report if needed of course Smiley
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Or perhaps a Layer 2 board, for threads about Lightning, Liquid sidechain, Statechains and whatever else is coming.

Edit: forgot the deeply forgettable Rootstock, currently buried in the altcoin dept somewhere

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June 05, 2019, 09:16:42 PM
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Support it with both hands Smiley it is already a mess and you can find questions/guides and threads about LN all over the forum.

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June 05, 2019, 09:18:05 PM
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Or perhaps a Layer 2 board, for threads about Lightning, Liquid sidechain, Statechains and whatever else is coming.

I like the Layer2 board idea...this should happen.
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June 05, 2019, 09:22:35 PM
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I like it! Assuming LN keeps growing, it'll need it's own board at some point in the future anyway.
Bitcointalk currently is far from the best source for information about LN, I'd like to (help) change that.

It should have a moderator though, a few users seem to dislike LN and want to post that in many different threads. If this could be centralized in one thread on the LN board that would keep threads like the FAQ clean.

Or perhaps a Layer 2 board, for threads about Lightning, Liquid sidechain, Statechains and whatever else is coming.
Multiple child boards could work.

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June 05, 2019, 10:00:54 PM
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I hope so to, lightning network boards must be realized.
In my opinion, this matter has already been proposed.
Hopefully this can be the last time this proposal and can be solved by the Admin.

[1]. Topic: Where's the Lightning Network discussion board?

Hi, i think you can use section: " Development & Technical Discussion".
Here's the link --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=6.0

Anyway i'm pretty sure that there are thread on Lightning Network yet..you can find them with search function!

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June 06, 2019, 12:03:18 AM
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To be honest I think this is going a bit too far... For example, segwit is about the same sort of thing as ln and it doesn't make sense to make a section for either. However putting it in alternate wallet software might be an idea if deemed necessary.
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To be honest I think this is going a bit too far... For example, segwit is about the same sort of thing as ln and it doesn't make sense to make a section for either. However putting it in alternate wallet software might be an idea if deemed necessary.
Segwit isn't much of a discussion-material since the end-user will just have to create a SegWit address using their clients to use it.
Few topics is enough to cover it.

Lightning is a different matter, there are tons of services dedicated to LN and setting your own node can have multiple issues that requires individual topics.

IMO, A child-board inside Bitcoin Technical Discussion is good to sort-out Lightning Network threads.

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June 06, 2019, 06:43:19 AM
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To be honest I think this is going a bit too far... For example, segwit is about the same sort of thing as ln and it doesn't make sense to make a section for either. However putting it in alternate wallet software might be an idea if deemed necessary.
This is wrong, they aren't comparable at this point. LN has a lot of features that justify this, and there's even more to come.

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To be honest I think this is going a bit too far... For example, segwit is about the same sort of thing as ln and it doesn't make sense to make a section for either. However putting it in alternate wallet software might be an idea if deemed necessary.
This is wrong, they aren't comparable at this point. LN has a lot of features that justify this, and there's even more to come.

I agree, because SegWit is an inherent part of the Bitcoin Core code and LN is a separate network.

All the more reason to give Lightning its own board. I think this may actually help make it easier to foster more innovation in (or adoption of) LN, if its easier to find and isolate information pertaining to it.

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...LN has a lot of features that justify this, and there's even more to come.

There is no doubt that the Lightning network is a complicated technology, as evidenced by the lack of naming in foreign languages for many elements and processes occurring in it.

Many times I see "free translation" added when I read tutorials, guides, articles in foreign languages about LN.

Personally, I was looking for materials about LN yesterday, after reading a very twisted article in which there were many interesting but unanswered questions.

A separate board is a very good idea because it will be very easy to search for help or materials on this topic. Many people are interested in LN and need detailed information and support.

There is a good chance that a specific community will be built around the Lightning Network, from insiders and supporters of this new board.

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Bit late to the party as I've been away on holiday, but fully supportive of a layer 2 section.  It seems like half the time people can't decide if it belongs in Bitcoin Discussion or Development & Technical, so a dedicated sub would be ideal.

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I fully agree that Lightening Network board is very good and much needed idea!
There is many FUD in this matter, FUDsters are using lack of people knowledge to discredit LN as idea at all.
I think Bitcoin need 2nd layer to continue its expansion so I really think LN is important enough to have its own board on BTC.

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My only concern is who will be the moderator? AFAIK most moderators are busy.

I'm very sure that won't be difficult to find, we have numerous well reputed veteran members with basic knowledge on that area that will be willing to volunteer for the job and if the appointed mod isn't good at his/her or their job they get replace with immediate effect with someone else until theymos finds someone perfect.

I support this suggestion, I'm a frequent visitor to the technical discussion board but i do more of reading then posting as my knowledge in that area is below average. Also thanks OP for linking those other threads.

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Typically, new boards (child-boards) are created when there is adequate demand for them. Right now, I'm seeing five LN-related topics on the 1st page in Development & Technical Discussion, zero such topics on the 2nd page, four topics on the 3rd page, three on the 4th, and two on the 5th, and there are forty topics per every page. Post more LN-related content if you have something meaningful to say or ask, and in time a new child-board will be created.

My only concern is who will be the moderator? AFAIK most moderators are busy.

That shouldn't be a problem, probably current Dev&Tech board mods + Global mods if a dedicated LN/L2 board was to be created.

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The only problem that I see with a dedicated LN board is that most threads on the topic end up becoming derailed and the threads become locked.
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June 19, 2019, 01:14:44 PM
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The only problem that I see with a dedicated LN board is that most threads on the topic end up becoming derailed and the threads become locked.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't try, though.  LN topics can get locked in all the places they currently get posted, but they can still provide some useful information before they get derailed by trolls.  If we allow disruptive behaviour to hamper our ambitions, the trolls have been successful in their goal.  Don't let them win.

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June 19, 2019, 01:23:24 PM
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The only problem that I see with a dedicated LN board is that most threads on the topic end up becoming derailed and the threads become locked.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't try, though.  LN topics can get locked in all the places they currently get posted, but they can still provide some useful information before they get derailed by trolls.  If we allow disruptive behaviour to hamper our ambitions, the trolls have been successful in their goal.  Don't let them win.

Isn't that a bizarre phenomenon? I know you've noticed it too -- what's up with this crowd that just hates LN? Nobody's forcing anybody to use it... Its just weird to me that a very select minority trash it every chance they get. I can't imagine being so angry at a technology.

In any case, yes a Lightning board would be great, I'm all for it. Pretty sure it will be catching on significantly in the future.

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June 19, 2019, 07:20:45 PM
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The only problem that I see with a dedicated LN board is that most threads on the topic end up becoming derailed and the threads become locked.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't try, though.  LN topics can get locked in all the places they currently get posted, but they can still provide some useful information before they get derailed by trolls.  If we allow disruptive behaviour to hamper our ambitions, the trolls have been successful in their goal.  Don't let them win.

Isn't that a bizarre phenomenon? I know you've noticed it too -- what's up with this crowd that just hates LN? Nobody's forcing anybody to use it... Its just weird to me that a very select minority trash it every chance they get. I can't imagine being so angry at a technology.

There's a part of me that wants to believe it's simply some ideological differences combined with an unhealthy dose of bitterness on their part, but increasingly I'm starting to think it's malicious.  Like they are just attempting to undermine Lightning purely because any user they can turn against it could potentially start using whatever it is these trolls are supporting.  

It makes sense when you think about it:  

Got no unique selling points for your preferred client/blockchain/whatever?  No one cares about your shit ideas?  Hardly any users?  Why not try to sabotage the project that currently has all the support instead?   Roll Eyes

I'm pretty sure that's how their mindset works.

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