Sell Euro itunes, amazon, steam (DE)

[von Bahl]

let me do this before you run off with other ppl mpney

Do it
Why are you still only talking? It could been done already with that time..

LOL..I have not deleted any chat history..but removed from contacts cos I have not use keeping junk contacts in my list

I can post the chats /conversations here and what will you do if what all I posted are from that chat with you ?

Well I could not find our chat anymore.
Please post it and if even one thing that I stated out from your post is true I will ask to ban myself/leave forum

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[CENX]

check this and let me know where I lied ?

https://imgur.com/a/HwN1wex

I posted all the facts you said on the chat

You have still chances to prove that you have really sold man gift cards

Post txn ids with user names to verify

[von Bahl]

UPDATE: The OP claims to have sold many card,but when asked to give some references,he claims that all /most of the sales are to random people who contacted him on ICQ

Sometimes he says escrow is OK.I offered to use LBC or forum escrows..showed proof of funds on LBC..but not showed interest to use it..
Don't know if he comes up with any excuse once the forum escrow is arranged and btc is sent

Not straight forward.He can not post any proof of previous sales

Deal with your own risk !

Where I said these things?

What did I say to you when you asked if I have sold anyone in forum? Do you forget things in 1h?

[CENX]

UPDATE: The OP claims to have sold many card,but when asked to give some references,he claims that all /most of the sales are to random people who contacted him on ICQ

Sometimes he says escrow is OK.I offered to use LBC or forum escrows..showed proof of funds on LBC..but not showed interest to use it..
Don't know if he comes up with any excuse once the forum escrow is arranged and btc is sent

Not straight forward.He can not post any proof of previous sales

Deal with your own risk !

Where I said these things?

What did I say to you when you asked if I have sold anyone in forum? Do you forget things in 1h?

Yes,you said DON'T KNOW..means you are not aware where they are coming from..but they bought from you (no proof !)

Yes,i loaded funds on LBC and asked you to use it ,but you said NO..(when you do not have issues with Paxful,why with LBC ?)

[von Bahl]

Yes,you said DON'T KNOW..means you are not aware where they are coming from..but they bought from you (no proof !)

Yes,i loaded funds on LBC and asked you to use it ,but you said NO..(when you do not have issues with Paxful,why with LBC ?)

Yes I said I dont know. I am not aware where they come from and I do not care as long as business will be done smooth and there are no liars like you.

I never told you to load funds on LBC. I told you right after you asked that I am not able to use LBC and I told you why.
Here you go - https://prnt.sc/o9q48x
https://prnt.sc/o9q4l7

[ThisSucks]

Are you ONLY selling bulk or can you sell individual as well? Please PM me percentages for Walmart and Amazon. What if I just wanted $100 worth of each?

[von Bahl]

Are you ONLY selling bulk or can you sell individual as well? Please PM me percentages for Walmart and Amazon. What if I just wanted $100 worth of each?

individual aswell
100$ is fine
pm-ed rates

[rohood]

This guy is a scammer, do not waste time and money.
He will get your Bitcoin and then delete the chat.

[von Bahl]

This guy is a scammer, do not waste time and money.
He will get your Bitcoin and then delete the chat.

wow another Newbie with 0 proofs
I wonder where these idiots come from.
Another 2 stopped posting and here we go with rohood or maybe just an alt of Cenx who were caught by lying?

[rohood]

Not only he is a scammer, but he is also a beggar, he stole 19 euros from me after three days of work, 19 euros !!
If he had told me that his financial situation was so difficult, I would have considered donating that sum and saving time for both of us.

in short:

The guy walks around the forum and offers Amazon gift cards for sale.
I turned to him and asked to buy a gift card for Amazon Germany.
He said he sells them at 75%.
I told him we would start with a gift card of 50 EUR.

He referred me to Paxful while relying on their support for the sellers.


I did not have an account there and I told him I would open one.
Luckily, I encountered an error signing up and was unable to create an account on Paxful.

I told him that if he had a 25 euro card, I would risk being paid without escrow,
He said he did not have a 25 EUR card.

Then I suggested that he sell me a 50 EUR card without escrow but get only half the payment (19 EUR) in advance, he would send the card, and after I redeem it I would send him the second half of the payment (18.5 EUR).

He agreed and I sent him 19 EUR

He sent me a photo of a gift card. I redeem it into an account and of course, I got an error.
I sent him a screenshot of the error.
He apologized and said that his partner had made a mistake and gave him a card that suited Amazon USA and not Amazon Germany.
He offered me a refund of the Bitcoin. I gave him my wallet address and, you will not believe it, he handed me the Bitcoin !!

It was a reassuring step, a sly cheater, Why should he steal only 19 euros if he can make me trust him and steal more?

But fortunately, I decided that 19 euros were the maximum amount I was willing to risk.

Two days later, I turned to him again and asked him to sell me a 50 EUR card on the payment terms I had agreed upon.


Apparently, he understood that he could not get more of that amount of money, He agreed, I sent him another 19 euros and since then
I never heard from him again and he deleted the chat.

These 19 euros will be my tuition. I'm sorrier for the waste of time in three days of talking to this deceiver.

[von Bahl]

Now where is the evidence that you were talking with me?


You are just bunch of idiots (probably same person) who is attacking me and harming my business..
Are you mad because you could not scam me?

[CENX]

This guy is a scammer, do not waste time and money.
He will get your Bitcoin and then delete the chat.

wow another Newbie with 0 proofs
I wonder where these idiots come from.
Another 2 stopped posting and here we go with rohood or maybe just an alt of Cenx who were caught by lying?

I am not alt of anyone ...
and caught me lying ? WOW..show  me anything  I posted that is different from the chatlogs screenshot

I don't you are a seller or scammer
I have not called you scammer..but posted my experience
If you have sold any gift card to any member on the forum,just post the proofs and prove yourself

[von Bahl]

I pointed out 3 fact which was wrong and this means you lied. Yes everyone can see that in our chat logs.
I even posted screenshots of lbc. Obviously you didnt post pics where we talked about lbc 1st time.


I have no idea if I have deal anyone from forum. Like I said already to you earlier I have had only few new buyers. I do not ask where they come/if they are member in this forum.

[rohood]

And here's the beautiful part,

I did not say the whole truth in my last post, I admit. I did not lie, but I gave the impression that the chat was deleted before I had a chance to photoshoot it.

I knew that this liar would immediately deny everything.

Well, every time I correspond with someone I do not know, I make sure to shoot the screen all the time and record the conversation.

I suggest that each of you do so. It does not protect you from scammed, but at least afterward there is evidence.

(By the way, I have no connection to the user CENX , I do not know him)

I am now posting my full post with detailed proofs (which I will post later in the Scam Accusations forum):


User: von Bahl
link - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2612673

His telegram: bahl738756

A link to prove that this is indeed his telegram, he likes to play with the order of numbers in the telegram name and say he has impostors:

https://imgur.com/8YuJ7JU


in short:

The guy walks around the forum and offers Amazon gift cards for sale.
I turned to him and asked to buy a gift card for Amazon Germany.
He said he sells them at 75%.
I told him we would start with a gift card of 50 EUR.

He referred me to Paxful while relying on their support for the sellers.
(Screenshot: https://imgur.com/1nPudzS)

I did not have an account there and I told him I would open one.
Luckily, I encountered an error signing up and was unable to create an account on Paxful.

I told him that if he had a 25 euro card, I would risk being paid without escrow,
He said he did not have a 25 EUR card.

Then I suggested that he sell me a 50 EUR card without escrow but get only half the payment (19 EUR) in advance, he would send the card, and after I redeem it I would send him the second half of the payment (18.5 EUR).

He agreed.

I sent him 19 EUR
(8da1a1738f5cfe255509d92e7c8a6ef51c9b76fa15b93c8abcf27102734bf57b)

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/8da1a1738f5cfe255509d92e7c8a6ef51c9b76fa15b93c8abcf27102734bf57b

Proof that this is his wallet address:
https://imgur.com/a/xwbjJuW

He sent me a photo of a gift card. I redeem it into an account and of course, I got an error.
I sent him a screenshot of the error.
He apologized and said that his partner had made a mistake and gave him a card that suited Amazon USA and not Amazon Germany.
He offered me a refund of the Bitcoin. I gave him my wallet address and, you will not believe it, he handed me the Bitcoin !!

(7f615905cba62500c143334a345857c7b9145d6d480c0027a2e9e11ff0f41b52)
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/7f615905cba62500c143334a345857c7b9145d6d480c0027a2e9e11ff0f41b52

It was a reassuring step, a sly cheater, Why should he steal only 19 euros if he can make me trust him and steal more?

But fortunately, I decided that 19 euros were the maximum amount I was willing to risk.

Two days later, I turned to him again and asked him to sell me a 50 EUR card on the payment terms I had agreed upon.


Apparently he understood that he could not get more of that amount of money, He agreed, I sent him another 19 euros
(4583f7c2efb72ad142cf7b06262890fc1563a13039223ff3d6778803e41bfbb5)
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/4583f7c2efb72ad142cf7b06262890fc1563a13039223ff3d6778803e41bfbb5

And since then I never heard from him again and after a while, he deleted the chat.

These 19 euros will be my tuition. I'm sorrier for the waste of time in three days of talking to this deceiver.

If you want to see most of my conversation with him, you can look at these screenshots in order:

https://imgur.com/v0rqGoR
https://imgur.com/PMyXN4g
https://imgur.com/g9dvAFh
https://imgur.com/ydUdwJ1
https://imgur.com/QvwXCDe
https://imgur.com/yVbJzzZ
https://imgur.com/6RXaPZC
https://imgur.com/eFqMcgI
https://imgur.com/v49z8NQ
https://imgur.com/bylHDIi
https://imgur.com/RuKy21I
https://imgur.com/e8BUS1V
https://imgur.com/78A7M4G
https://imgur.com/odowdkS
https://imgur.com/s2B29vl
https://imgur.com/o1IMYwW


This, of course, will not help anything, the guy will disappear and reappear in another name. And there are many more like him.
Maybe it will make Newbies (me included) get some lessons.