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Question: How important is anonymous betting?
Critical (won't use site if not available) - 5 (15.6%)
Important (will affect my decision) - 19 (59.4%)
Mildly important (makes the site more appealing) - 5 (15.6%)
Doesn't matter - 3 (9.4%)
Total Voters: 32

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June 23, 2019, 03:59:59 PM
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I think most gamblers would see no registration bets as a plus to a betting site because most of them wants to gamble anonymously and they find KYC very hassle. In my opinion it is better for your site to have verification just to safeguard your site from scammers.
With or without registration would always be ideal for a gambler if he has the option for both of it. We want to gamble anonymously and you have to choose those casinos that doesn't require KYC before you gamble but there are casinos that will ask you for KYC when you are about to withdraw. They will halt your request and will ask you for that and when that happens, it will be a disappointing moment for you because you thought from the beginning that they don't ask for it.

Asking for KYC at the time of withdrawal is the first sign of scam. If you come across such a site, you should seriously think of quitting the site or at least keep less funds there.  The sites can put some restrictions like with people without kyc have some daily withdrawals limits but asking for kyc at the time of withdrawal only is not acceptable and right.
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June 24, 2019, 08:09:06 AM
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It opens up room for abuse. If there is no type of regulation or KYC what would prevent a football team from a lower division to bet on their own match and earn money from their loss? If the site offers anonymous betting there is no way of knowing who made the bets without following the money trail.
You have a point sir! They can make any sabotage regarding to their game once they are not known in gambling. Still, it can better for gambling site to make KYC so that people who bet will be noticed by the team. If there is anonymity in the site, conspiracy may also happen. Its good for the people who bet on winners but how about the losers? It will not become a fair game at all.
It doesn’t really make sense then for gambling sites to engage in blockchain technology to run their site, imagine that the gambling developers wants to remain anonymous, but they don’t want to give the opportunity to their players to become anonymous, there is nothing like sabotaging here, people can only sabotage the game when the developer doesn’t not know what he is doing as regards the site.

I don’t like going for gambling sites that will not make protect my identity to both my opponent and even the site owner. There are lots of very great developers that can still use code to control thing and still run smoothly without having to involve KYC.

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June 24, 2019, 09:50:24 AM
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Hmmm… No Registration bets? Well, there are sites that has it just like Sportsbet.io that allows people to bet without registering, but one thing is that if you mistakenly leave the site, all your winnings and deposited money is gone. Then one thing you will have to know is that anyone who is playing with cryptocurrency wants to be anonymous. But I don't mind registering with just my email and password, I can only get annoyed if they start asking questions that they are not meant to ask. You should have anonymous bet available, let it be a choice for users.

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June 24, 2019, 08:33:39 PM
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I think most gamblers would see no registration bets as a plus to a betting site because most of them wants to gamble anonymously and they find KYC very hassle. In my opinion it is better for your site to have verification just to safeguard your site from scammers.
With or without registration would always be ideal for a gambler if he has the option for both of it. We want to gamble anonymously and you have to choose those casinos that doesn't require KYC before you gamble but there are casinos that will ask you for KYC when you are about to withdraw. They will halt your request and will ask you for that and when that happens, it will be a disappointing moment for you because you thought from the beginning that they don't ask for it.

Asking for KYC at the time of withdrawal is the first sign of scam. If you come across such a site, you should seriously think of quitting the site or at least keep less funds there.  The sites can put some restrictions like with people without kyc have some daily withdrawals limits but asking for kyc at the time of withdrawal only is not acceptable and right.
It's not that a scam because I experienced that with a legit and popular casino. The ending, I stopped using them and never came back to that casino again. It doesn't really look right but they have the right to do it because they can put you on hold if you are about to withdraw.
Just gamble with casino's that you have nice experience so you won't experience what I did with that casino.

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June 24, 2019, 08:50:03 PM
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I prefer anonymous betting, but if an online casino that I really want to play at does not offer anonymous betting, then I will complete the necessary documents and play there.

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June 25, 2019, 05:22:16 AM
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I prefer anonymous betting, but if an online casino that I really want to play at does not offer anonymous betting, then I will complete the necessary documents and play there.

I guess there are many anonymous betting and recommended the betting site for the gamblers who don't want to send any documents, so you don't have to do KYC. That will better for you because you can prevent the bad things that might happen with the site and besides that, you can feel fine to play in that site. You don't have to think negative after you send the document because usually, when we send the document, sometimes we think what will happen next after the document was sent to them.

Anonymous betting can be a good reason for gamblers to play gambling game because they can play gambling without using their real identity, and they can prevent the illegal things that might happen.

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June 25, 2019, 06:51:08 AM
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I prefer anonymous betting, but if an online casino that I really want to play at does not offer anonymous betting, then I will complete the necessary documents and play there.
That is it. Individually, Anonymous' betting is good but when we are talking of the betting and casinos companies , revealing your identity is good for them and the society at large. Many scamming activities are happening in online gambling and knowing your customers will help in reducing scamming and criminal activities.
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June 25, 2019, 07:09:19 AM
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I think most gamblers would see no registration bets as a plus to a betting site because most of them wants to gamble anonymously and they find KYC very hassle. In my opinion it is better for your site to have verification just to safeguard your site from scammers.

Hassle, so yeah.

I don't want to give my personal information to other people especially if it is a gambling site. That gambling site might be hacked and might be used to illegal purposes that might lead you to jail for years to an illegal crime that you did not even commit. Also, I just want to gamble anonymously so I just register and just roll in to gamble and roll out.
But why do we always fill our hearts with negativity. I mean negativity in the sense that having a fear of a site being hacked is nothing but wishing evil for another man’s business. We all know that casino sites are businesses that belong to different people and they try as much as they can to make the security tight and hacking the site would be impossible so why we think of that?

Let’s just be honest enough to admit the reasons we want our identities hidden while we gamble rather than providing flimsy excuses, I can leave my information exposed on a site as long as am sure of gambling on a trusted site.

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June 25, 2019, 07:30:12 AM
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I prefer anonymous betting, but if an online casino that I really want to play at does not offer anonymous betting, then I will complete the necessary documents and play there.
That is it. Individually, Anonymous' betting is good but when we are talking of the betting and casinos companies , revealing your identity is good for them and the society at large. Many scamming activities are happening in online gambling and knowing your customers will help in reducing scamming and criminal activities.
Indeed you are correct, that's the reason why gambling industry avoided that to prevent abusing and scamming. But I think some gamblers did not want to reveal their identity if you've noticed that gambling who implement KYC will less costumer rather than being an anonymous player. Well, I would rather choose to be individually being anonymous.









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June 26, 2019, 05:12:52 AM
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Offcourse who would want to disclose his information on a gambling site?
Yeah, that's why we keep looking for a gambling site who doesn't ask for KYC because we want to play anonymously and we also want to bet on this kind of system. I think many gambling site are already have this feature because they know that cryptocurrency is made for a decentralized market and that's why they respect the privacy of every gambler, this is a must for a crypto gambling site.

I am sure the gambling owner will respect the gamblers decision to stay away from the KYC because the gamblers want to keep their identity in secret. They don't have to use KYC for the members because they want running their website to make money and I think that will be enough if they can give a gambling website which is free from KYC.
I also do not think there’s any casino site that’s forcing anyone to play on their site. If the policy does not suit players, then they have the right to quit and look for alternative sites that would grant their wish without compromising what they believe in.

I am completely against KYC and my reason is justified, I cannot withstand my personal details being in public or submitted on a gambling site since I know that nothing is impossible with casino sites, they could sell it to third party or even tell me stories that the account has been hacked. Online gambling should be made different from traditional gambling by giving us access to enjoy gambling privately.

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June 26, 2019, 05:24:09 AM
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Offcourse who would want to disclose his information on a gambling site?
Yeah, that's why we keep looking for a gambling site who doesn't ask for KYC because we want to play anonymously and we also want to bet on this kind of system. I think many gambling site are already have this feature because they know that cryptocurrency is made for a decentralized market and that's why they respect the privacy of every gambler, this is a must for a crypto gambling site.

I am sure the gambling owner will respect the gamblers decision to stay away from the KYC because the gamblers want to keep their identity in secret. They don't have to use KYC for the members because they want running their website to make money and I think that will be enough if they can give a gambling website which is free from KYC.
I also do not think there’s any casino site that’s forcing anyone to play on their site. If the policy does not suit players, then they have the right to quit and look for alternative sites that would grant their wish without compromising what they believe in.

I am completely against KYC and my reason is justified, I cannot withstand my personal details being in public or submitted on a gambling site since I know that nothing is impossible with casino sites, they could sell it to third party or even tell me stories that the account has been hacked. Online gambling should be made different from traditional gambling by giving us access to enjoy gambling privately.

Only those who doesn't care about their info out to the casino that will play on the casino site that ask for KYC.  Privacy is always an issue for anyone who protects it, casinos should really understand this and offer the same features of anonymity. There are casinos that are forcing gamblers to send out KYC documents particularly when it comes to withdrawal of the funds.

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June 26, 2019, 06:03:15 AM
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I'm working on a football (soccer) betting site, and I'd like to know if it is worth the effort to add the feature to allow no-registration bets. Has it ever been a deciding factor when you pick a site to bet on?
Im interested in any updates you have with your site. 
You seem to be a developer hard at work so I dont want to be a pest but we are interested in how the Beta is doing.

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June 26, 2019, 08:29:34 AM
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Just imagine there are whales or high roller do you think they would use a site that would giveaway their real information?
Just imagine a site that would use your real name when you are chatting and when other players view your profile it would show your personal details such as your name and other stuff .
Do you think that they would continue to use knowing that some people would target them in real life?
Anonymity in gambling is what we are looking for and for that reason we are avoiding a gambling site with a KYC to know that our personal data isn't required and we could play safely.
Honestly bro, it makes no sense at all to me and this is the very reason why I avoid KYC as plague, what differentiates it from traditional gambling. For me, I would never play games on KYC site while I risk my information been exposed to a third party.

I have one policy never to fill a KYC on any gambling site, because I always had fear and especially the fact that those sites cannot be trusted, it stands a chance of being hacked and it will be very risky.  Well I understand there are so many people who see nothing wrong with KYC, different people to what they belief and their choices, so its always individual differences.
I don’t think any gambler is interested in leaving a trace of their identity online, so I don’t blame you at all. The KYC regulation to me is absolute scab considering the agenda of Cryptocurrency. The essence of crypto is mainly for anonymity, so I do see any reason for KYC on casino sites.

I believing that exposing our identity online has the ability to turn us into victim of exploitation. I have heard so many reports of how some casinos site use the information of their players in bad faith. Too many shady activities like account hacking and impersonation and this is the main reason why I detest KYC and I do hope its eradicated soon.
I believe the few people you know that are victims of exploitation as a result of leaving their information’s on an online site did that on a scam site. There’s no real casino site that would do that to its player and I believe they are even more interested in the safety of their gamblers than even the money they stand to gain

For me, once I have verified that a site is truly reputable, I would not see any challenge with filing the KYC form on the site because I believe they already have a name, and will do all that’s within their power to keep the information safe. Moreover the reason why casino sites request for KYC is justified.
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June 26, 2019, 06:41:09 PM
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I guess there are many anonymous betting and recommended the betting site for the gamblers who don't want to send any documents, so you don't have to do KYC. That will better for you because you can prevent the bad things that might happen with the site and besides that, you can feel fine to play in that site. You don't have to think negative after you send the document because usually, when we send the document, sometimes we think what will happen next after the document was sent to them.

Anonymous betting can be a good reason for gamblers to play gambling game because they can play gambling without using their real identity, and they can prevent the illegal things that might happen.
The only reason so many enjoy to gamble secretly is nothing more but for safety and I don’t think any site can be 100% trusted enough to lave such vital information. Do not forget that there could be times this site gets hacked and the information on the database gets exposed. Bear in mind that When gamblers say they cannot expose their information because they do not trust the site, it does not necessarily mean that the site is not of good reputation but in gambling anything can happen.

I have heard stories of cases where a site gets hacked and the client’s information get passed to a third party. It’s a matter of decision, those who see nothing wrong with gambling on a KYC regulation site can go ahead, but for those of us who have a thing against it, I feel our reason should not be seen as flimsy.

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June 27, 2019, 05:21:21 AM
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Its truly important, anonymity is a crucial feature, many people don't like to expose themselves in gambling and anonymity could help the gambler from restricted country to play the game, and crypto gambling is famous because of its anonymity, so this feature is a must in crypto gambling
Yea, it’s really very important. Especially with the bad reputation on gambling, no gambler would be glad to be publicly known to be a gambler but instead would enjoy to play secretly why they can deny the game openly and another vital point is for the benefits of people gambling from countries where gambling is prohibited.

I have friends I have known from online casinos and most of them play from countries where gambling is illegal, they are able to do this by using a hidden vpn and am sure it’s truly helpful, I honestly think for as long as gambling remains, gamblers would always prefer to keep their identity undisclosed
If there’s any reason why people like to keep their identity safe in gambling, I want to believe it should be more or less for safety, not because of whatsoever reputation reason you mentioned above. This has nothing to do with gambling because if the reputation of gambling was that bad, then we won’t be having more gamblers by the day

Please note that gambling secretly in a country where gambling is prohibited is still disobedience to the law. Its simple, if your country declares the game illegal, then stay off, there’s no point going through the back door to play. So I feel your friends are only taking a risk that is not worth taking at all.
So are you saying in essence that gambling has a good reputation? Am sorry to say, if reputation is the reason why anyone fears to drop their details on a gambling site, then I think it’s absolutely correct, don’t be deceived by the number of people that register into gambling, they only do that because they’ve been deceived.

Gambling is scam and anyone that’s even gambling at all is already taking a risk, more or less now dropping vital information on a gambling site. That’s a higher risk and I think it’s of no use taking such risk at all.
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June 27, 2019, 05:31:44 AM
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Its truly important, anonymity is a crucial feature, many people don't like to expose themselves in gambling and anonymity could help the gambler from restricted country to play the game, and crypto gambling is famous because of its anonymity, so this feature is a must in crypto gambling
Yea, it’s really very important. Especially with the bad reputation on gambling, no gambler would be glad to be publicly known to be a gambler but instead would enjoy to play secretly why they can deny the game openly and another vital point is for the benefits of people gambling from countries where gambling is prohibited.

I have friends I have known from online casinos and most of them play from countries where gambling is illegal, they are able to do this by using a hidden vpn and am sure it’s truly helpful, I honestly think for as long as gambling remains, gamblers would always prefer to keep their identity undisclosed
If there’s any reason why people like to keep their identity safe in gambling, I want to believe it should be more or less for safety, not because of whatsoever reputation reason you mentioned above. This has nothing to do with gambling because if the reputation of gambling was that bad, then we won’t be having more gamblers by the day

Please note that gambling secretly in a country where gambling is prohibited is still disobedience to the law. Its simple, if your country declares the game illegal, then stay off, there’s no point going through the back door to play. So I feel your friends are only taking a risk that is not worth taking at all.
So are you saying in essence that gambling has a good reputation? Am sorry to say, if reputation is the reason why anyone fears to drop their details on a gambling site, then I think it’s absolutely correct, don’t be deceived by the number of people that register into gambling, they only do that because they’ve been deceived.

Gambling is scam and anyone that’s even gambling at all is already taking a risk, more or less now dropping vital information on a gambling site. That’s a higher risk and I think it’s of no use taking such risk at all.

there are sites thats displays the number of registered users and most of them are scams . a real and legit site wont display thier statistics such as registered users because they will only look shady if they do it . gambling isnt also a scam but its a game  .

 the risk is part of the game and lastly anonymous betting is also a desired feature because people especially gamblers love to hide thier selves so that no one will question them if they won huge amount of cash  .
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Gamblers are not required to register on physical casinos, (atleast where I live) i don't see why registering on online ones are necessary.
I understand the need to monitor people in public places but the current way of handling sensitive information is dangerous and primitive

I agree with you, not requiring any registration in land based casinos and, at the same time, requiring personal data on online registration doesn't make sense and also looks unfair. I would not be surprised if it turns out that these laws were lobbied by land based casinos, so that gamblers would prefer going to them. Also, it's a primitive way of catching criminals, if you ask me. If they wanted to launder their money, of course they would not provide their personal info to an online casino, but would go to a land based one instead.
On the contrary, I don’t think that is true. Offline casinos have no business with the affairs of online gambling and it is not in their power to influence the decision of online casino sites. I feel the reason why personal details are required in online gambling is still because of money launders and minors.

The reason why these information might not really be need in an offline casino center is this, there is physical contact and sometimes even without getting the players information, the operators can guess if the player is of age and also there’s something called instinct. They can as well always guess if the player is into money laundering by appearance but this is not possible with online, so requesting for information will be the only way out.
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June 28, 2019, 11:23:21 AM
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Right..
Gamblers are not required to register on physical casinos, (atleast where I live) i don't see why registering on online ones are necessary.
I understand the need to monitor people in public places but the current way of handling sensitive information is dangerous and primitive
I think the main reason an online casino needs a KYC is so that they can make sure that all their customers are over the legal age limit. In a Physical casino, It is easier to screen people as you can see them, not so easy for an Online casino. If the casino is legal, then it is most likely to have KYC(there are a few exceptions). It is not to snoop on your activity but more so that they can make sure their customer base is of a legal age. Another possible reason is, Most of the casinos are running some sort of Bonuses. Kyc is needed so that a player cant take advantage of the bonuses by creating multiple accounts and tilting the odds in his favor for earning the bonus easily. Although, I'd like a casino to not have KYC and let me be anonymous but I can understand why they do need KYC.

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June 28, 2019, 12:02:54 PM
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Hmmm… No Registration bets? Well, there are sites that has it just like Sportsbet.io that allows people to bet without registering, but one thing is that if you mistakenly leave the site, all your winnings and deposited money is gone. Then one thing you will have to know is that anyone who is playing with cryptocurrency wants to be anonymous. But I don't mind registering with just my email and password, I can only get annoyed if they start asking questions that they are not meant to ask. You should have anonymous bet available, let it be a choice for users.
AFAIK if you didn't registered on any site (especially in sport betting) you don't need to deposit anything since they will provide you the box which you can placed your winning address.
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You might also want to add, that they needed to have a KYC to prevent bots that's playing and continuously winning for the sake of the owner of that bot. Though, I can't hardly see some restrictions when it comes to age, because almost all of them don't have it on their TCs /Rules.



As for the subject, I may better choose playing anonymously rather than playing with my own name publicly, this is just for our own safety I suppose. Their are numerous hackers everywhere so its better to be a nanashi (japanese name/term).
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