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October 13, 2019, 06:14:35 PM
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I think everyone here owns the market in our own way , not just the big investors but everyone , it depends how much Bitcoins you have , even if it's 0.0001 or even if it's 1000, you own the market and you can actually make a difference .
The ratio varies obviously , it can be more or less but at the end because of no governmental body involved the power is with the people who trade in Bitcoins.
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October 19, 2019, 06:56:54 AM
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I think everyone here owns the market in our own way , not just the big investors but everyone , it depends how much Bitcoins you have , even if it's 0.0001 or even if it's 1000, you own the market and you can actually make a difference .
The ratio varies obviously , it can be more or less but at the end because of no governmental body involved the power is with the people who trade in Bitcoins.
The size of the cryptocurrency portfolio is of great importance. With a huge mass of coins, you can put pressure on prices and even manipulate prices in a short period.
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October 19, 2019, 07:28:17 AM
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No one owns it. No one controls it. The proponent of bitcoin, who has set all the ground rules, and the market cap, has now left. It's up to us to decide whether bitcoin would continue or just dip to death. It's about the investors, the users of the cryptocurrency which would decide its fate. If no one would want to use it, then that's the only time it would be dead. It's decentralized, it's in every single node connected to its network, we all share a part of it, whales can manipulate it but no one can control it totally.
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October 19, 2019, 08:21:32 AM
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those who have a market are people who own Bitcoin.
no one can control the price of bitcoin but it must be remembered there are factors that affect the value of bitcoin to change significantly.
one of the factors is the latest news about regulations made by a country and the pope plays its role in this matter.
Indeed those who believe in bitcoin own the market. The fact that the market has its volatility we cannot control it when there's a significant increase and decrease of price. Though market manipulation occurs as some came in panic selling and buying of btc.
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October 19, 2019, 09:53:41 AM
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Understand who controls the market you are investing or trading in, and you’ll have an advantage. Bitcoin is a free and open source market. Nobody owns it.

But does anyone control it?

Ask yourself this—

How are Bitcoins created?

Who is incentivised to create Bitcoin?

Between 2013 and the beginning of 2017, big money had been slowly moving in on Bitcoin. They saw its potential as a relatively rare asset and also the mechanism that made it work. Bitcoin is seen as having a value greater than the sum of its parts.
The market is controlled by those who have more money, be it individuals or communities. I'm sure you have understood the meaning of the word whales, whether or not market price controls are independent of your perspective. My opinion the market is purely influenced by demand, but for bitcoin there are still many puzzles and issues whether bitcoin has insiders to control their volume market in exchanger sites.

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October 19, 2019, 09:59:14 AM
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I think everyone here owns the market in our own way , not just the big investors but everyone , it depends how much Bitcoins you have , even if it's 0.0001 or even if it's 1000, you own the market and you can actually make a difference .
The ratio varies obviously , it can be more or less but at the end because of no governmental body involved the power is with the people who trade in Bitcoins.
The size of the cryptocurrency portfolio is of great importance. With a huge mass of coins, you can put pressure on prices and even manipulate prices in a short period.
Only whales can put the pressure, but no one owns the whole market even the exchanges because they also depend on the demand and supply as a law of the price movements. With bitcoin, everyone who have bitcoin can actually be called the owner of the market simply because bitcoin rules the whole cryptomarket. Have focus on owning more coins, make it a habit and your goal and maybe one day you will become a whale too because everything is possible in this market.
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October 19, 2019, 11:23:21 AM
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Understand who controls the market you are investing or trading in, and you’ll have an advantage. Bitcoin is a free and open source market. Nobody owns it.

But does anyone control it?

Ask yourself this—

How are Bitcoins created?

Who is incentivised to create Bitcoin?

Between 2013 and the beginning of 2017, big money had been slowly moving in on Bitcoin. They saw its potential as a relatively rare asset and also the mechanism that made it work. Bitcoin is seen as having a value greater than the sum of its parts.
Actually the crypto market or btc is a decentralized coin which cannnot be controlled by anoyone but the prices can be easily manipulated by the whales to gain profits by creating pump and dump situation as there is no regulated body to act upon.It is coin held by many investors and prices will rise with increased demand and supply becoming low.So we can say it is free market and nobody owns it.
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October 19, 2019, 11:57:36 AM
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Please PM me. I would try to sell you 1 satoshi for $1k. I see you are a smart guy and see that 1 sat cost much more than its current value.

Market is controlled by whales. The more whales we have the less powerful the single one is and less influence on the market whales have. So right now we see that one whale can almost instantly crash the market by -5% so the market is more centralized than we want and it is controlled by whales.

Yes. Just recent events have shown that the price can be brought down in an instant if you have the money. Therefore, I am sure that the richest people in the world and lead this "holiday" of money.

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October 20, 2019, 02:05:58 AM
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Bitcoin is being considered as a digital currency. It has made transactions easier. Therefore, it is being considered as a simple means of trading. It is not yet clear who is the inventor of Bitcoin. But it must be regulated.

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October 20, 2019, 02:11:01 AM
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Bitcoin is being considered as a digital currency. It has made transactions easier.
absolutely correct and no doubt bitcoin really is making transactions more easier
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Therefore, it is being considered as a simple means of trading.
while many trading platform we have yet this is not a simple means of trading because the volatility of market brings it harder to trade
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It is not yet clear who is the inventor of Bitcoin. But it must be regulated.
why need to be regulated?by whom the government?so whats the difference from banks and stocks if even crypto trading gives regulatory?

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October 20, 2019, 05:00:26 AM
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Nobody owns bitcoin or the market. However the market is easily manipulated in bitcoin, due to lack of regulations.

Whales, exchanges.... they are manipulating. Don´t you remember Bcash drama in 2017, when bitcoin price was heavily manipulated?

I agree with you that no party can own the crypto market. cryptocurrency is decentralized and independent. it's just that the cryptocurrency market can be manipulated by large traders and whales. and also bad news about cryptocurrency can affect society. and this has an impact on demand and supply. and the crypto market is strongly influenced by demand and supply.

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October 20, 2019, 07:59:45 AM
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Understand who controls the market you are investing or trading in, and you’ll have an advantage. Bitcoin is a free and open source market. Nobody owns it.

But does anyone control it?

Ask yourself this—

How are Bitcoins created?

Who is incentivised to create Bitcoin?

Between 2013 and the beginning of 2017, big money had been slowly moving in on Bitcoin. They saw its potential as a relatively rare asset and also the mechanism that made it work. Bitcoin is seen as having a value greater than the sum of its parts.
No one owns the market every body use it many years maybe you to say is who are manipulated in the market and of course whales and big exchanges that can make manipulation. Bitcoin can't control as you can see every day many are going in crypto and search what bitcoin is and can use it. And I think it will be grow more the people will be know what bitcoin is even in the next generation.
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October 20, 2019, 08:19:51 AM
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The size of the cryptocurrency portfolio is of great importance. With a huge mass of coins, you can put pressure on prices and even manipulate prices in a short period.
With the price of BTCitcoin increasing the manipulation is not that high like we used to see in the past, i am not telling that the whales could not manipulate the market and we see the market taking precaution if a huge amount of coins are moved from one wallet to another, so it is possible to shake the market momentarily but it will gain the momentum pretty fast.
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October 23, 2019, 04:01:33 PM
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Only whales can put the pressure, but no one owns the whole market even the exchanges because they also depend on the demand and supply as a law of the price movements. With bitcoin, everyone who have bitcoin can actually be called the owner of the market simply because bitcoin rules the whole cryptomarket. Have focus on owning more coins, make it a habit and your goal and maybe one day you will become a whale too because everything is possible in this market.
Your point is absolutely clear man, there is no one that own the market other than us, because without us, the market will just be an empty market and even the whales that we think are controlling the market will not be able to do so because if you check the ratio of whales in the market to ours, you will see that we are still very much more than the whales, I mean the average investors in the market.

Whales are able to control the market now because they are rich, I know, but the opportunity they have got to control the market is because the bitcoin is still very volatile. Look at the stable coins, how are they not able to control stables coin because it is less volatile, so bitcoin market will be fully controlled by us too in the future when it becomes a stable coin too.
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October 30, 2019, 08:13:55 PM
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Nobody own this market but there are people who believe cryptos will get under the control of countries. I don't give a chance for that. I believe Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will always continue to be special.

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October 31, 2019, 07:29:39 PM
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Nobody own this market but there are people who believe cryptos will get under the control of countries. I don't give a chance for that. I believe Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will always continue to be special.
Even if cryptocurrency gets under control of the government, they can only fully control the cryptocurrency that they have created, but they can really not be able to control bitcoin, because bitcoin is a coin that its technology really does not allow that and it will take another strong decentralized coin to contend with bitcoin.

I doubt if the government would ever give chance to another decentralized coin because they always see them as a partial threat to them because of the total control it would give to the user in having absolute control over their own financial status which they would feel that the lack of respect by this individuals will come in, but it is a good thing anyway that they have a coin that will always checkmate them and this is the reason why bitcoin will always be embraced.

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