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June 09, 2019, 07:46:04 PM
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I really like gambling on online slots, but I hate how none seem to be provably fair I have bet a good amount at Fortune Jack.
At first I assumed all the slots on fortune jack were provably fair because they advertise the website as such, but the slots are from providers so they are not or at least there is no way to verify it.
I also use tronbet slots, but its the same deal comes from providers not provably fair. Anyone know of any site with Provably fair slots at all?
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Yep.

It's without a doubt a thing, though you're going to want to confirm all of the numbers that they provide (for confirming that it's provably fair) on your own. As it doesn't make any sense to use the 'verifier' on their website, which could be compromised. Use your own, and check out the entire process.

https://bovegas.com/blog/casino-wiki/provably-fair-slots-now-you-know-theyre-fair/

https://www.bitstarz.com/provability-explained

Check these links out.

Just remember one thing though: Even if the site is 'provably fair' that doesn't mean that the odds aren't in the favor of the house. Slots are notorious for having the worst odds that are present in gambling, and you're going to get hammerd by the house edge (which is factored into provably fair, as they do disclose it) I'd recommend playing other games if you want to change the odds a tad. On average, slot machines have a house edge of about 5 to 17 percent





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June 09, 2019, 09:22:52 PM
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Dont care too much on verifying provably fair on slots yet there are lots of providers who do have these slots games even though its been found on reputable casino sites as of this moment but it doesnt mean that they are fair at all.One thing i do see on these slot games is having a big house edge.
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June 09, 2019, 10:57:16 PM
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They do exist, here's a few casinos that have their own slots and they have a detailed explanation on how their provably fair works.


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Quote from: author https://bitvest.io/
All results at Bitvest are provably fair. You may use this tool to validate any game, or for an explanation of how hashes are turned into game results.

Crypto-Games
Provably Fair gambling is a technology that is unique to Bitcoin gambling that makes it impossible for a player or casino to cheat.
You no longer have to doubt the house for your every loss. So, whatever game you are playing, you can be confident that the result is fair and accurate given its fairness is provable.
To check each bet, you can click on BetID and you'll receive more detailed information for each individual bet.


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On Nitrogensports' slots they don't have an explanation but everything that is needed in verifying a bet is provided. Here's a screenshot of what it looks like.

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June 10, 2019, 01:19:24 AM
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Just remember one thing though: Even if the site is 'provably fair' that doesn't mean that the odds aren't in the favor of the house. Slots are notorious for having the worst odds that are present in gambling, and you're going to get hammerd by the house edge (which is factored into provably fair, as they do disclose it) I'd recommend playing other games if you want to change the odds a tad. On average, slot machines have a house edge of about 5 to 17 percent

I think most online slots if not all are provably fair is just that most of them the odds are always in favor to the house that’s why sometimes you can feel that it isn’t fair, but that’s how gambling really is whether we like it or not. Owners will always think of getting profits and the bigger profits the better so don’t take it too seriously because it will only stress you out.

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June 10, 2019, 10:14:30 AM
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They do exist, here's a few casinos that have their own slots and they have a detailed explanation on how their provably fair works.


BitVest
Quote from: author https://bitvest.io/
All results at Bitvest are provably fair. You may use this tool to validate any game, or for an explanation of how hashes are turned into game results.

Crypto-Games
Provably Fair gambling is a technology that is unique to Bitcoin gambling that makes it impossible for a player or casino to cheat.
You no longer have to doubt the house for your every loss. So, whatever game you are playing, you can be confident that the result is fair and accurate given its fairness is provable.
To check each bet, you can click on BetID and you'll receive more detailed information for each individual bet.


Nitrogensports
On Nitrogensports' slots they don't have an explanation but everything that is needed in verifying a bet is provided. Here's a screenshot of what it looks like.

your examples are all provably fair but they are all basic slot games no bonuses or anything the bitvest one looks best maybe I can play that for now.
Wish some of the more premium games would also be provably fair. thanks for the info
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June 10, 2019, 10:57:39 AM
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Careful with slots. A lot of sites in this forum even advertise their slots as provably fair but very few have the ability to actually prove they are provably fair!

For many casinos in the traditional sense they still see fair as RNG mechanism,,, and if they get those rng verified, they think this means they are provably fair.

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June 10, 2019, 11:07:45 AM
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I know they exist but you should be very careful with your selection.Always find a site which has provably fair slots and have a nice big dedicated section to explain how it works even to non tech savvy audience.Keep in mind to also read other users feedback and if all is positive go ahead and play.

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June 10, 2019, 01:43:24 PM
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I mean com'mon we are in the digital era and those things are made with codes. it's true that most sites don't provide probably fare systems at all but still even if they the odds of winning from slots are always low. They simply exist because they are very amusing and very addictive to play. Casinos are said to make between 65 and 80 percent of their gambling income from slots. these little things can never be underestimated.
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June 10, 2019, 02:11:02 PM
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They do exist, here's a few casinos that have their own slots and they have a detailed explanation on how their provably fair works.


BitVest
Quote from: author https://bitvest.io/
All results at Bitvest are provably fair. You may use this tool to validate any game, or for an explanation of how hashes are turned into game results.

Crypto-Games
Provably Fair gambling is a technology that is unique to Bitcoin gambling that makes it impossible for a player or casino to cheat.
You no longer have to doubt the house for your every loss. So, whatever game you are playing, you can be confident that the result is fair and accurate given its fairness is provable.
To check each bet, you can click on BetID and you'll receive more detailed information for each individual bet.


Nitrogensports
On Nitrogensports' slots they don't have an explanation but everything that is needed in verifying a bet is provided. Here's a screenshot of what it looks like.

Just for addition, Coinroyale also provides provably fair slot game.
There is also a casino named 8bet.io that provide provably fair slot game as claimed to be the first provably fair slot in this gambling industry although it is a false claim. I haven't tried it yet though, but it seems that their slot is indeed provably fair. Need someone with better knowledge about it to confirm the fairness though.

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June 10, 2019, 02:11:58 PM
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You want a real provably fair, better go to casino man but if you want to play online I suggest better to play with a live casino. To be honest, went i play to gamble on a digital i really don't care about provably fair, the code/bot always chasing the user who plays at their site. The best solution, gamble at E-sport of Match game to get a real probably fair, they can't cheat that.
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June 11, 2019, 07:34:54 AM
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How if you don't think about provably fair slots and only enjoy the game? I think that will better than you search a gambling site that claims it's provably fair, but I think every gambling site will say that they are provably fair. We don't know if they really have provably fair or not and that is not the important thing because as long as we can win the games and get the money, we will not bother to think that.

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June 11, 2019, 09:53:22 AM
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Yes, it is probably fair but I think the odds are more in favor with the house edge. We know that gamble online industry is on base codes and for sure it is created always in favor to them. However, you have still chance to win but the chances of probably winning are lessened(unless if you are lucky enough). We can't generalize all gambling online platform maybe there are others honest and probably fair to their clients/customers.
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June 11, 2019, 11:57:35 AM
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You want a real provably fair, better go to casino man but if you want to play online I suggest better to play with a live casino. To be honest, went i play to gamble on a digital i really don't care about provably fair, the code/bot always chasing the user who plays at their site. The best solution, gamble at E-sport of Match game to get a real probably fair, they can't cheat that.

Do you mean that real casino is more provably fair than the online casino? I cant get the idea of this opinion tbh, IMO there is no real casino with provably fair system out there. Especially if we are talking about slot games, I'm curious to know the reason why did you say so while there is no ways to verify your bets on real casinos. I cant even say that real casino is worst than online provably fair casino in case of "fairness".
Would you to tell me what do you mean by real provably fair in real casino? At least show us which real casinos are provably fair.

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June 11, 2019, 12:20:07 PM
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Sure they are, otherwise gamblers will complain and that will run their reputation, the only reason why we are not winning is because the odds of winning in slots are very low, personally I don't focus in this kind of game, if it's hard for me winning in sports, the more the difficult here.

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June 11, 2019, 06:02:29 PM
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How if you don't think about provably fair slots and only enjoy the game? I think that will better than you search a gambling site that claims it's provably fair, but I think every gambling site will say that they are provably fair. We don't know if they really have provably fair or not and that is not the important thing because as long as we can win the games and get the money, we will not bother to think that.
you have said the plain truth and to be sincere with you no site will said there are not fair in slots. It is better op remain with fortune Jack because he is not sure if there are fair or not! I do believe with experience he would come into conclusions about them.
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June 11, 2019, 06:16:21 PM
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They may not be rigged but slots are notorious for having the worst odds among casino games.  Experienced gamblers stick with games like blackjack and leave slots up to the newbies.  Slots are usually used as a way to lure people into their casinos, online casinos give out free spins and real life casinos stick slot machines in their lobby.
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June 11, 2019, 11:05:53 PM
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I really like gambling on online slots, but I hate how none seem to be provably fair I have bet a good amount at Fortune Jack.
At first I assumed all the slots on fortune jack were provably fair because they advertise the website as such, but the slots are from providers so they are not or at least there is no way to verify it.
I also use tronbet slots, but its the same deal comes from providers not provably fair. Anyone know of any site with Provably fair slots at all?
I can suggest you betvoyager online gambling site which has a fairness control feature. Last year I really enjoyed with their no-zero roulette and doubled my deposit with luck. At the end of the game session, they took a 10% commission from winnings. Even some sites have live game sessions( slots included). Dublinbet was my favourite site and they have a surveillance camera which directly connected to site for gamblers.

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June 11, 2019, 11:46:58 PM
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Sure they are, otherwise gamblers will complain and that will run their reputation, the only reason why we are not winning is because the odds of winning in slots are very low, personally I don't focus in this kind of game, if it's hard for me winning in sports, the more the difficult here.
Tell me how to prove their provably fairness in one of slot games you know? by their hash? And now, OP is complaining slot games on fortunejack.



You want a real provably fair, better go to casino man but if you want to play online I suggest better to play with a live casino. To be honest, went i play to gamble on a digital i really don't care about provably fair, the code/bot always chasing the user who plays at their site. The best solution, gamble at E-sport of Match game to get a real probably fair, they can't cheat that.
Even you can get cheated on real casino. You can google it and see how many it already happened. Playing on real casino doesn't mean it has 100% provably fair.



How if you don't think about provably fair slots and only enjoy the game?
What do you feel when you throw away your money on scam site? That's what OP asked.
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June 11, 2019, 11:57:07 PM
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I really like gambling on online slots, but I hate how none seem to be provably fair I have bet a good amount at Fortune Jack.
At first I assumed all the slots on fortune jack were provably fair because they advertise the website as such, but the slots are from providers so they are not or at least there is no way to verify it.
I also use tronbet slots, but its the same deal comes from providers not provably fair. Anyone know of any site with Provably fair slots at all?
Everyone says that everything is fair and their foundation will bring the best experience to everyone. But will someone prove that their platform is fair, any information related to the rates and limits offered to prove it? I think things are not really fair, the ratio always brings a continuous red string and there is no limit that it can stop.

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