What is Deterministic wallet? How can I make multiple addresses point to one wal

[HCP]

I know that it generates new random address and new private key pair but I don't think I was ever able to get that private key on hands from that non-HD wallet service provider and they never let me sign messages through those newer addresses and that's what I was arguing here all about.

The issues you were having were not due to whether the wallet you were using was a deterministic or not... The issues you were having were because of your poor choice of wallet for your requirements.

Specifically, blockchain.info/com being somewhat feature poor and not providing users with the means to sign messages etc. Granted, it is a simple and easy to use wallet for users that simply want to be able to send/receive bitcoin and don't care too much about more "advanced" features like coin-control, signing messages, pay-to-many etc. I believe they used to provide the ability to sign messages but that was removed... I'm not sure why? But then, this is the wallet provider that took months and months and months to implement custom fee settings, while users were forced to either pay ridiculously high fees... or have transactions "stuck" because of ridiculously low fees.

As you have now discovered, not all wallets are created equal, nor do they all provide the same features...

[Saint-loup]

How do you?
If it is a deterministic wallet like blockchain.com 'previously known as Blockchain.info' and I choose to opt for that web wallet and app, how am I able to sign a message through any of the addresses allocated to me in that wallet except those that I import in it? It changes addresses every single time and the wallet that allows you to have your private keys while also allowing you to sign messages through all of them is Electrum or Mycelium 'rectify if wrong'. Aren't all of these deterministic wallets?

New blockchain.com wallet is HD, the old (legacy) wallets aren't.
Maybe you're talking about the old blockchain.info wallet which wasn't Deterministic.

If you have the new Blockchain.com wallet, the Mnemonic Phrase you got follows BIP39 standard
which is compatible with most recovery tools and light clients like Electrum, give it a try if you want.
New/Restore->Standard wallet->I already have a seed->Click "Options" then BIP39->Select the address type

FYI, changing the receiving address in every receiving transaction is a common thing for wallets for their user's privacy.
Even for non-HD blockchain.com, it generates new random address & prv key pair everytime you used an address and keep the old addresses in your account.

I think you are talking about years ago, because even when it was blockchain.info it was an HD wallet...

And be careful you can't import this type of bip39 seed in Electrum wallet on smartphone (or I don't know how you do) because Electrum seeds don't follow bip39 norms, you need to get the master private key before importing it.

[nc50lc]

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I think you are talking about years ago, because even when it was blockchain.info it was an HD wallet...

And be careful you can't import this type of bip39 seed in Electrum wallet on smartphone (or I don't know how you do) because Electrum seeds don't follow bip39 norms, you need to get the master private key before importing it.

What I'm pointing out is the old wallet version, not the subdomain.
FYI, their old wallet with non-BIP39 seed aren't HD.

About BIP39 support for the Android version,
It has been available since Aug 13; here's ThomasV's (ecdsa) post in github: link
I'm not using Android Electrum but as long as you're updated, there should be an option to enable BIP39 SEED checkbox.

[Saint-loup]

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I think you are talking about years ago, because even when it was blockchain.info it was an HD wallet...

And be careful you can't import this type of bip39 seed in Electrum wallet on smartphone (or I don't know how you do) because Electrum seeds don't follow bip39 norms, you need to get the master private key before importing it.

What I'm pointing out is the old wallet version, not the subdomain.
FYI, their old wallet with non-BIP39 seed aren't HD.

I think you are talking about the id of the accounts, not the seeds, no?
Because I don't understand how and espacially why they would provide a seed if their wallets aren't HD?  

About BIP39 support for the Android version,
It has been available since Aug 13; here's ThomasV's (ecdsa) post in github: link
I'm not using Android Electrum but as long as you're updated, there should be an option to enable BIP39 SEED checkbox.

I wasn't aware of that, thank you for the information, the last version available on Google play (3.3.7.0) is dated July 3rd (2019) so we have to wait a little bit more apparently.

[nc50lc]

I think you are talking about the id of the accounts, not the seeds, no?
Because I don't understand how and espacially why they would provide a seed if their wallets aren't HD?  

As you know it, new HD version is using BIP39 mnemonics.

But those old blockchain.info SEED or rather "mnemonic phrase" weren't really for generating the root seed.
It's basically your account ID and password backup, nothing else, the recovery page is designed to derive the login info based from those words;
Each of your account's keys, they are stored in their server until you decided to export it.

[Saint-loup]

I think you are talking about the id of the accounts, not the seeds, no?
Because I don't understand how and espacially why they would provide a seed if their wallets aren't HD?  

As you know it, new HD version is using BIP39 mnemonics.

But those old blockchain.info SEED or rather "mnemonic phrase" weren't really for generating the root seed.
It's basically your account ID and password backup, nothing else, the recovery page is designed to derive the login info based from those words;
Each of your account's keys, they are stored in their server until you decided to export it.

I wasn't aware of that, but you are talking about longtime ago, I see in 2016 it was already an HD wallet. The date of your registration is a little bit misleading in fact.