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March 17, 2014, 02:20:39 PM
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Libertarians: Anarchists minus critical thinking about capitalism.

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March 17, 2014, 03:13:55 PM
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Libertarians: Anarchists minus critical thinking about capitalism.

Anarchists: Pseudo-Intellectuals with no understanding of economics

EDIT: Talking about anarchists as described by Rampion
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March 17, 2014, 04:03:19 PM
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Anarchists: Pseudo-Intellectuals with no understanding of economics

EDIT: Talking about anarchists as described by Rampion

I can be for world peace and work to promote world peace, eventhough world peace doesn't exist.

Self organisation and owning your work are good values. If you are an entrepreneur then you self organise, manage your own risk and reap the rewards of your work while answering to no-one. I don't see why people would be so opposed to those trying to find ways to empower people, give them back sovereignty and promote a world of independent self-managed individuals.

We don't always need to solve problems through centralised power structures like parliaments. There are other ways we can govern ourselves on a local level, flowing like water. It works for me and others, and part of the work is to grow this mindset in a population that is constantly being bombarded and brainwashed. If you taught every child how to make a business, people will be more free and there will be less wage slaves.

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March 17, 2014, 04:26:22 PM
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Anarchists: Pseudo-Intellectuals with no understanding of economics

EDIT: Talking about anarchists as described by Rampion

I can be for world peace and work to promote world peace, eventhough world peace doesn't exist.

Self organisation and owning your work are good values. If you are an entrepreneur then you self organise, manage your own risk and reap the rewards of your work while answering to no-one. I don't see why people would be so opposed to those trying to find ways to empower people, give them back sovereignty and promote a world of independent self-managed individuals.

We don't always need to solve problems through centralised power structures like parliaments. There are other ways we can govern ourselves on a local level, flowing like water. It works for me and others, and part of the work is to grow this mindset in a population that is constantly being bombarded and brainwashed. If you taught every child how to make a business, people will be more free and there will be less wage slaves.

Hakuna matata.


I'm an AnCap/Voluntarist/Agorist and agree with everything you posted, I'm just hating on anarchists of the mutualist and anarcho-syndicalist variety
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March 17, 2014, 05:15:54 PM
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BTC is quintessential example of capitalism in action. It is competition to a corporate monetary system (federal Reserve system) and to state-run systems.

Not that complicated. An environment that encourages Competition works to motivate people to develop better ideas. We see btc as testimony to the quality of a capitalist system.
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March 17, 2014, 06:48:22 PM
Last edit: March 17, 2014, 07:27:32 PM by practicaldreamer
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Self organisation and owning your work are good values. ....... I don't see why people would be so opposed to those trying to find ways to empower people, give them back sovereignty and promote a world of independent self-managed individuals.


Absolutely.


I've posted these links before in a previous thread - but I'll post them again here because (although they are small scale) I think they give a glimpse of the way forward.

   The first is the Tower Colliery, Wales.
          
         ("Led by local NUM Branch Secretary Tyrone O'Sullivan, 239 miners joined TEBO (Tower Employees Buy-Out), with each pledging £8,000 from their redundancy payouts to buy back Tower. Against stiff central government resistance to the possibility of reopening the mine as a coal production unit, a price of £2 million was eventually agreed.")

   The second is The Isle of Eigg Community Buy-out, Scotland.

     ("Eigg’s pioneering community buy-out ushered in land reform in Scotland, giving islanders control of their future for the first time.  Among other achievements, Eigg has the first completely wind, water and sun-powered electricity grid in the world")

     Now I don't know wether that makes me a Socialist, Anarchist, Mutualist or Libertarian - but it seems like there is a way forward here  Wink

  Throw in Bitcoin and we are really cooking  Cool
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March 17, 2014, 07:02:26 PM
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Kind of a stupid video to me - a list of people who have failed where bitcoin is succeeding?

Furthermore, there is no ostracism of libertarians going on. What is happening is that more statists are getting involved and trying to do the impossible (regulate cryptocoins). Not to mention, there really aren't that many libertarians as there are ancaps.

Who gives a shit about your made-up popularity contest? The bitcoin protocol certainly doesn't. Nor do the Anti-statists that use them.

Genjix: Haven't you rubbed shoulders with some of the biggest scammers in the bitcoin-world?

I'm grumpy!!
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March 17, 2014, 08:59:59 PM
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nothing is impossible. some people see bitcoin like an unchangeable god that will bring paradise, when in fact it's a tool subject to the consensus of the people developing it. it will and does change.

also who cares if bitcoin is anti or pro capitalist or whether you are an anarcho-something or *-libertarian? it's all loaded terms and labels when in fact it sounds like everyone is talking about the same issues. why don't we shift our discussion to something less utopic and more about the values encompassing our proposed social systems?
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March 18, 2014, 02:31:40 AM
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So many people think wikipedia is decentralized when in fact it's one of the most centralized sources of information that exists.

So few wikipedia admins controlling information that is seen/researched by millions of people, even government information agencies are more diverse than wikipedia.

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March 18, 2014, 11:31:43 AM
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So many people think wikipedia is decentralized when in fact it's one of the most centralized sources of information that exists.

So few wikipedia admins controlling information that is seen/researched by millions of people, even government information agencies are more diverse than wikipedia.



What's funny is Jimbo Wales professes a libertarian philosophy, but ran Wikipedia like a tinpot dictator for years.  Don't get me even started on the pseudolegal nonsense that is the "Arbitration Committee," which is basically a collection of degenerates and lunatics that make the attendees of a furry convention look normal.
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March 18, 2014, 11:45:26 AM
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I past years people are changing meaning capitalism, criticizing it without any constructive alternative.

Truth is only alternatvie to capitalism is socialism (doesn't work) and feudalism ( well, it works for longer then capitalism).

When people protest against capitalism they should protest against corruption, connection of business and government, global banks and influence of big firms.

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March 18, 2014, 01:23:52 PM
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This may be of interest to some of the readers here, posting fyi...

The Ubuntu Party (http://www.ubuntuparty.org.za/) will be participating in the South African Elections on May 7th 2014. Some of their main aims are to rid the country of Private Banks, The South African Reserve Bank and Private Money.

I doubt you'll hear about that in the international media  Wink

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