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July 15, 2019, 04:24:27 AM
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This turn of event is both amazing and mind-boggling. Look at where the money is flowing. It is flowing to Manny Pacquiao's side even if he is not young anymore inside the ring, not too hungry anymore to prove something, not too focused on boxing anymore as he has a lot of other things to attend to, and so on. On the other hand, a young, hungry, and undefeated Thurman is running out of bettors.

Is the inactivity factor the main reason?
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July 15, 2019, 05:36:57 AM
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Thurman may be younger but pacquiao already proved his reputation to the boxing community. He already defeated some world champions before and been undefeated for some years. It's obvious that pacquiao has greater odds on sportsbetting websites. Imo this is just like his previous fights, pacquiao will win and he'll earn more money again.

For me, yes, I agree with what you said, Pacquiao already proved his reputation to the boxing community and showed the respect of his opponent. Also, the skills and speed are still their even he is fighting against ten years older than him; I think we will win again, especially that Thurman is very hubristic. But yet, we will only know how will win after the fight.   Smiley
Actually this is the toughest Fight Manny will face in his entire career,having undefeated and 10years younger opponent will bring the most challenging fight he will ever had

The truth is he is facing the difficulties of winning but knowing Manny Pacquiao?for sure he will bring everything he have to make Filipino proud again.win or lose?Pacman will be our champion

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July 16, 2019, 03:39:09 AM
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Thurman may be younger but pacquiao already proved his reputation to the boxing community. He already defeated some world champions before and been undefeated for some years. It's obvious that pacquiao has greater odds on sportsbetting websites. Imo this is just like his previous fights, pacquiao will win and he'll earn more money again.

For me, yes, I agree with what you said, Pacquiao already proved his reputation to the boxing community and showed the respect of his opponent. Also, the skills and speed are still their even he is fighting against ten years older than him; I think we will win again, especially that Thurman is very hubristic. But yet, we will only know how will win after the fight.   Smiley
Actually this is the toughest Fight Manny will face in his entire career,having undefeated and 10years younger opponent will bring the most challenging fight he will ever had


No, I do not agree. This is far from the toughest fight of Manny Pacquiao in all his long years of fighting inside the ring. But it's normal to say that the incoming fight is going to be the toughest. They say that every time he has a fight. That is one overused line that adds a little hype to the fight. But if you look at the odds, it is reflective of what kind of fight this is. The guy on the other side has went from the favorite to the underdog. This means a lot. This means an easier fight for Manny.
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July 16, 2019, 05:19:50 AM
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The guy on the other side has went from the favorite to the underdog. This means a lot. This means an easier fight for Manny.

That changes in in the odds is a big statement that many still believe that Pacquiao is a better fighter on this fight and that he can dominate his opponent.
Odds are just sliding down, I'm not surprise if one day before the fight, line would be below 1.50 for Pacquiao.

I'm pretty sure this is an exciting fight and that everyone are already allocating some funds to bet in this fight.
It should be one of the greatest fight of Manny Pacquiao. Smiley

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July 16, 2019, 05:57:44 AM
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Odds update on sportsbet.io for this fight:
Date: May 28, 2019
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Manny Pacquiao: 2.06
Kieth Thurman: 1.68
sportsbet.io odds.
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Date: June 26, 2019
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Manny Pacquiao: 1.84
Kieth Thurman: 1.86
sportsbet.io odds.
~

Now: July 16, 2019



As you can see on the odds now on sportsbet.io, it's totally flipped the odds of Manny Pacquiao Vs  Kieth Thurman since the beginning, seems really a lot of people into Manny Pacquiao now.
Really interesting odds, and 5 days left before the fight. With this kind of odds, they are really positive on Manny Pacquiao, I know there's a reason behind this big changes of odds since the beginning they open to bet for Pacquiao vs Thurman.

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July 16, 2019, 07:19:06 AM
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Odds update on sportsbet.io for this fight:
Date: May 28, 2019
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Manny Pacquiao: 2.06
Kieth Thurman: 1.68
sportsbet.io odds.
~
Date: June 26, 2019
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Manny Pacquiao: 1.84
Kieth Thurman: 1.86
sportsbet.io odds.
~

Now: July 16, 2019



As you can see on the odds now on sportsbet.io, it's totally flipped the odds of Manny Pacquiao Vs  Kieth Thurman since the beginning, seems really a lot of people into Manny Pacquiao now.
Really interesting odds, and 5 days left before the fight. With this kind of odds, they are really positive on Manny Pacquiao, I know there's a reason behind this big changes of odds since the beginning they open to bet for Pacquiao vs Thurman.

The only reason I believe is money, more money are betting on Pacquiao than Thurman so the line has to be adjusted.
In their real chances of winning, I think the early odds are more accurate but money can move the odds so let us not get too mislead with the odds changes.

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July 16, 2019, 08:12:40 AM
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Odds update on sportsbet.io for this fight:
Date: May 28, 2019
~
Manny Pacquiao: 2.06
Kieth Thurman: 1.68
sportsbet.io odds.
~
Date: June 26, 2019
~
Manny Pacquiao: 1.84
Kieth Thurman: 1.86
sportsbet.io odds.
~

Now: July 16, 2019



As you can see on the odds now on sportsbet.io, it's totally flipped the odds of Manny Pacquiao Vs  Kieth Thurman since the beginning, seems really a lot of people into Manny Pacquiao now.
Really interesting odds, and 5 days left before the fight. With this kind of odds, they are really positive on Manny Pacquiao, I know there's a reason behind this big changes of odds since the beginning they open to bet for Pacquiao vs Thurman.

The only reason I believe is money, more money are betting on Pacquiao than Thurman so the line has to be adjusted.
In their real chances of winning, I think the early odds are more accurate but money can move the odds so let us not get too mislead with the odds changes.
I don't think it's only because of the money bet on Pacman. If the odds for Thurman rise but he finally wins, the bookmakers will have to pay much money to the bettors. So I really think the bookmakers are now predicting his loss.

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July 16, 2019, 08:30:11 AM
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Odds update on sportsbet.io for this fight:
Date: May 28, 2019
~
Manny Pacquiao: 2.06
Kieth Thurman: 1.68
sportsbet.io odds.
~
Date: June 26, 2019
~
Manny Pacquiao: 1.84
Kieth Thurman: 1.86
sportsbet.io odds.
~

Now: July 16, 2019



As you can see on the odds now on sportsbet.io, it's totally flipped the odds of Manny Pacquiao Vs  Kieth Thurman since the beginning, seems really a lot of people into Manny Pacquiao now.
Really interesting odds, and 5 days left before the fight. With this kind of odds, they are really positive on Manny Pacquiao, I know there's a reason behind this big changes of odds since the beginning they open to bet for Pacquiao vs Thurman.

July 5, 2019 (just for the record Wink)

Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5142112.msg51712783#msg51712783

It’d really turns out that the fight really favor for Manny Pacquiao. I almost forgot to place my bet for manny last week even that there’s a slightly changes in odds. Still big difference becuase of that it’s hard to find someone IRL that has the power to bet for Keith.


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July 16, 2019, 10:18:13 AM
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Keith Thurman is confident he can "figure out" Manny Pacquiao-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKI5kiqca8


Thurman Versus Pacquiao: Can Thurman Turn The Odds And Knock Pacquiao Out?-
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July 16, 2019, 01:19:17 PM
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Pacquiao also very hard on his training and also so much focus just on boxing. The fight is very soon. Therefore. Soon also we will know if who will win in that fight.

Manny is very ready to fight even right now. I just do hope that he won't overtrain as there are a lot of reports coming from Philippine media that Manny is already at the peak of his training already and as I have said can fight anytime, anywhere.

For me as the fight takes longer, I think it will favoured Pacquaio as he has the stamina and Thurman is not known for having a good gas tank.

Usually younger fighter has a better stamina but Pacquaio is an exemption, he hasn't slowed down on its movement in the ring but maybe the power was reduced a bit.

Right, but as you have said, Pacquaio is one of a kind fighter and even at his age, he has still bang and his punch has sting and have a good stamina.

And for the sake of argument that he is slowing down, I think he matures already and learn how not to spend his energy and save it for the needed spurts. I read that the average punch per round for a welterweight is 60++. Pacquaio slowed down for the last 4 to 5 fights averaging around 40 punch. But there are some rounds in the Broner fight that he threw around the average punch as per that division. So he became very efficient as well.
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July 16, 2019, 03:03:25 PM
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Keith Thurman is confident he can "figure out" Manny Pacquiao-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKI5kiqca8


Thurman Versus Pacquiao: Can Thurman Turn The Odds And Knock Pacquiao Out?-
https://www.ibtimes.com/thurman-versus-pacquiao-can-thurman-turn-odds-knock-pacquiao-out-2806676
It's easy to say than doing it,  boxers have a lots of time reviewing their opponents style and to keep finding good style to take the edge of winning but from that point the opposing party also taking its time to find ways to counter the possibilities, new sets of combinations and new sets of training practices, it will be a good match seeing both fighters to be aggressive to win this match.
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July 16, 2019, 03:13:53 PM
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I UPDATED THE TITLE FROM "PACQUIAO STANDS AS UNDERDOG VS THURMAN" TO "PACQUIAO NOW STANDS AS FAVORITE VS THURMAN" BECAUSE THE RECENT ODDS ON ONLINE SPORTSBOOKS NOW SHOW A SURGE IN PACQUIAO'S ODDS OF WINNING AGAINST THURMAN, THUS THE TURNING OF THE TABLES.

Manny Pacquiao is now 40 years old, 10 years older than his opponent. He's past his prime years. His attention is so much divided, esp. now that he's very much needed in the Philippine senate (yes, he's a senator in his country), as the midterm senatorial elections have just concluded.

Thurman, on the other hand is young and undefeated. He's very hard on training with so much focus just on boxing. These were the main reasons Thurman was favored by online sportsbooks. But things have already changed. Pacquiao is now the favorite.

Interesting read: Pacquiao Stands as Underdog vs Thurman



Now that the fight is coming near, the odds of course are favoring Manny Pacquiao. Most of big gamblers are making hypes favoring Thurman but of course it's just a hype where in they encourage people to bet on him yet, when they do those big gamblers will put their money to Pacquiao's. I don't think Manny will be an underdog in this fight though.
I still think that Manny is still capable of giving his opponent an amazing punch. Though he is more matured than Thurman but this won't be a hindrance from winning this fight because he still got the passion and fierce in boxing.Thurman may have been into a hard training but it won't be a guarantee that he can beat Manny this time.

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July 16, 2019, 03:54:14 PM
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Keith Thurman is confident he can "figure out" Manny Pacquiao-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKI5kiqca8


Thurman Versus Pacquiao: Can Thurman Turn The Odds And Knock Pacquiao Out?-
https://www.ibtimes.com/thurman-versus-pacquiao-can-thurman-turn-odds-knock-pacquiao-out-2806676
It's easy to say than doing it,  boxers have a lots of time reviewing their opponents style and to keep finding good style to take the edge of winning but from that point the opposing party also taking its time to find ways to counter the possibilities, new sets of combinations and new sets of training practices, it will be a good match seeing both fighters to be aggressive to win this match.
Anything can happen when you are already in the ring which counter strategies would have some counters too thats why its been unpredictable.Thurman is way too confident on beating up Pacquiao but lets see if those words do have some power or just purely an empty air when they are already inside the ring.4 days left for the fight and preparation.
Favorites had been switched up but still the odds arent really that too far.

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July 16, 2019, 10:43:25 PM
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Keith Thurman is confident he can "figure out" Manny Pacquiao-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKI5kiqca8


Thurman Versus Pacquiao: Can Thurman Turn The Odds And Knock Pacquiao Out?-
https://www.ibtimes.com/thurman-versus-pacquiao-can-thurman-turn-odds-knock-pacquiao-out-2806676
It's easy to say than doing it,  boxers have a lots of time reviewing their opponents style and to keep finding good style to take the edge of winning but from that point the opposing party also taking its time to find ways to counter the possibilities, new sets of combinations and new sets of training practices, it will be a good match seeing both fighters to be aggressive to win this match.

Yeah, but normally boxers target the weak habits of their opponents. those habits are hard to change. As the fight goes longer habits will come out. Just like how pacquaio throws knockout punches leading with his head. That is how Marquez koed him. When he went for the kill, he leaned forward with his head open. Marquez countered him. Thurman can study pacquiao and find  habits he can exploit as well.
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July 17, 2019, 01:59:17 AM
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Keith Thurman is confident he can "figure out" Manny Pacquiao-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKI5kiqca8


Thurman Versus Pacquiao: Can Thurman Turn The Odds And Knock Pacquiao Out?-
https://www.ibtimes.com/thurman-versus-pacquiao-can-thurman-turn-odds-knock-pacquiao-out-2806676
It's easy to say than doing it,  boxers have a lots of time reviewing their opponents style and to keep finding good style to take the edge of winning but from that point the opposing party also taking its time to find ways to counter the possibilities, new sets of combinations and new sets of training practices, it will be a good match seeing both fighters to be aggressive to win this match.

Yeah, but normally boxers target the weak habits of their opponents. those habits are hard to change. As the fight goes longer habits will come out. Just like how pacquaio throws knockout punches leading with his head. That is how Marquez koed him. When he went for the kill, he leaned forward with his head open. Marquez countered him. Thurman can study pacquiao and find  habits he can exploit as well.

Marquez was an expert counter puncher. That was his game. We have seen how he proved to be the best on it during his early fights with Manny Pacquiao. He was so convinced of his counter punching with their previous fights that he didn't believe to have lost to Manny even once. Well, the KO of Manny from Marquez was the latter's best counter punch in all their fights. Manny was faking a punch and Marquez caught him with a deadly blow.
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July 17, 2019, 06:01:05 AM
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Here is the first sit down with both of them- ONE TIME sounds real confident
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July 17, 2019, 07:58:54 AM
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Keith Thurman is confident he can "figure out" Manny Pacquiao-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKI5kiqca8


Thurman Versus Pacquiao: Can Thurman Turn The Odds And Knock Pacquiao Out?-
https://www.ibtimes.com/thurman-versus-pacquiao-can-thurman-turn-odds-knock-pacquiao-out-2806676
It's easy to say than doing it,  boxers have a lots of time reviewing their opponents style and to keep finding good style to take the edge of winning but from that point the opposing party also taking its time to find ways to counter the possibilities, new sets of combinations and new sets of training practices, it will be a good match seeing both fighters to be aggressive to win this match.

Yeah, but normally boxers target the weak habits of their opponents. those habits are hard to change. As the fight goes longer habits will come out. Just like how pacquaio throws knockout punches leading with his head. That is how Marquez koed him. When he went for the kill, he leaned forward with his head open. Marquez countered him. Thurman can study pacquiao and find  habits he can exploit as well.

Marquez was an expert counter puncher. That was his game. We have seen how he proved to be the best on it during his early fights with Manny Pacquiao. He was so convinced of his counter punching with their previous fights that he didn't believe to have lost to Manny even once. Well, the KO of Manny from Marquez was the latter's best counter punch in all their fights. Manny was faking a punch and Marquez caught him with a deadly blow.

And you also have to consider that that ko was in their 4th fight. So marquez actually had the luxury of figuring out pacquaio 4 times. Something that thurman doesn't have. Though the kid is skilled and pacquiao's age is something he canntake advantage of, manny's experience would probably be enough to secure him a win. The problem is, this will only push the guy to continue fighting despite his age. A loss, i think, would be beneficial since he may have to consider retiring then.


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July 17, 2019, 08:21:36 AM
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Here is the first sit down with both of them- ONE TIME sounds real confident
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzaD_Kp_GkM






He does sound confident all the time, I won't be surprise that every interview he will keep praising himself and underestimating Manny.
What I like to see is the post fight interview if Manny will win, maybe that time he will stop and accept his loss, but if he will be like Broner who says "I beat that boy" LOL..

I would not respect this guy anymore.

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Here is the first sit down with both of them- ONE TIME sounds real confident
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzaD_Kp_GkM






Damn, Pacquiao is actually looking quite old.

I'm actually going to have to say that Thurman has a better chance of winning now, Pacquiao looked slow in the vid.

I'd still give him the slightest edge now, 55% chance to win by UD.
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Here is the first sit down with both of them- ONE TIME sounds real confident
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzaD_Kp_GkM






Damn, Pacquiao is actually looking quite old.

I'm actually going to have to say that Thurman has a better chance of winning now, Pacquiao looked slow in the vid.

I'd still give him the slightest edge now, 55% chance to win by UD.
I think even Manny Pacquiao is older than Thurman is doesn't mean that he have advatanges. That's only a video and we can see the real Manny in the boxing ring when he fight and Im really sure that he is still fast like before. But you are right high chance for Manny to win by UD but also I want to win him by KO.  4 days more we see who really win.
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