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June 20, 2019, 01:05:09 AM
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You're all right about this, household edge will be the barriers to beat them.
But i'm thinking about a new challenge which lasted till my balance x10 or get busted. Anyone with me?? lol.
Ofcourse just for fun with a small balance!!
Even maintaining a balance to stay, is a difficult thing in gambling, moreover it to get win and end with profit. defeating houses is a difficult thing, especially if you have played for a long time, of course the algorithm will make you lose. but gambling is not about profits and wins right? many others thing to make you fun

I won't try to play more than 10x because that will makes me sad to see how many times I will get lost. Even if the bets are a small amount, I don't think that I have a chance to get a win in more than 5 times because I already did that before.

I see that after playing gambling in more than 3-5 times, the situations will be change and the time will turn to the house to eat the gambler's money. And if we are a gamble for a long time, I cannot imagine how much money we will lose, and the gamblers will take all of the victories.

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June 20, 2019, 04:45:34 AM
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I think everyone is trying to beat the household and try to make some profit in gambling, but it's not that easy to win, the owner got their own specialist team to calculate the odds and probability to give more advantage for the house, that's why we got something that call house edge and there was seldom news we heard the casino is closing down
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June 20, 2019, 05:32:19 AM
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I won't try to play more than 10x because that will makes me sad to see how many times I will get lost. Even if the bets are a small amount, I don't think that I have a chance to get a win in more than 5 times because I already did that before.

I see that after playing gambling in more than 3-5 times, the situations will be change and the time will turn to the house to eat the gambler's money. And if we are a gamble for a long time, I cannot imagine how much money we will lose, and the gamblers will take all of the victories.
He doesn't mean he will play 10 times, but he make a challange for him and anyone who want to join (for fun only ofcourse), who can be able to make their money 10times higher or bust it.
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June 20, 2019, 10:45:24 AM
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I think everyone is trying to beat the household and try to make some profit in gambling, but it's not that easy to win, the owner got their own specialist team to calculate the odds and probability to give more advantage for the house, that's why we got something that call house edge and there was seldom news we heard the casino is closing down

I believe everyone wants to win, but not everyone has the ambition to beat the house as they know it's not easy or it's even almost impossible.
Majority of the gamblers does not start with a big bankroll, most of us are just small time gamblers aiming to win and can easily get satisfied but the house has the system in place and their advantage will beat the majority of the gamblers.
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June 20, 2019, 05:43:38 PM
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In a sense a casino is a metaphor for life. We only pretend, lie to ourselves that we can "beat it," that we can control it when in fact, it's all half chances.

we can beat the casino if you have lots of capital that is much bigger on the house capital . some small time gamblers think that they beat the casino after they win but we cant control them because we dont own them  . the casino owner are the only one that can controll the casino .

If your capital is much bigger than the house's value, then you are better off building your own casino, right? I see it like lottery, buying all the tickets would get you the prize but for much lower than all you spent to get it.

Granted there have been groups who have been beating blackjack before but that required a well-coordinated team, devices for card-counting, etc. It's not something an individual can do by himself.
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June 20, 2019, 05:54:08 PM
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In a sense a casino is a metaphor for life. We only pretend, lie to ourselves that we can "beat it," that we can control it when in fact, it's all half chances.

we can beat the casino if you have lots of capital that is much bigger on the house capital . some small time gamblers think that they beat the casino after they win but we cant control them because we dont own them  . the casino owner are the only one that can controll the casino .

If your capital is much bigger than the house's value, then you are better off building your own casino, right? I see it like lottery, buying all the tickets would get you the prize but for much lower than all you spent to get it.

Granted there have been groups who have been beating blackjack before but that required a well-coordinated team, devices for card-counting, etc. It's not something an individual can do by himself.

I agree with your argument, it makes sense to buy a casino than playing with casino bankroll equivalent. Even the roulette cheating systems with magnet, lasers can be detected by casino administration with surveillance cameras. Beating the house edge is no possible for long run only hit and run strategy work for a short time period. House always wins.

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June 21, 2019, 03:31:42 PM
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If your capital is much bigger than the house's value, then you are better off building your own casino, right? I see it like lottery, buying all the tickets would get you the prize but for much lower than all you spent to get it.

Granted there have been groups who have been beating blackjack before but that required a well-coordinated team, devices for card-counting, etc. It's not something an individual can do by himself.
I agree with your argument, it makes sense to buy a casino than playing with casino bankroll equivalent. Even the roulette cheating systems with magnet, lasers can be detected by casino administration with surveillance cameras. Beating the house edge is no possible for long run only hit and run strategy work for a short time period. House always wins.

With the group I mentioned, indeed they were doing mostly hit and run. Even with that though, security did managed to catch up with them. There is actually some sort of private agency that identifies these "cheaters" and the list is shared among casinos. Get on the list and you will not be allowed entry into most (if not all) casinos in Vegas.

You get on the list even for just suspected "card counting".
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June 21, 2019, 04:13:37 PM
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You would have to be a dumb gambler to think you can beat the house since it simply just doesnt happen.
There are some so called 'pro gamblers' who claim they can make millions a year gambling and good for them- but this is not something normal
YOu need to remember s amll percent like 1% of all people who gamble will win so that should tell you something right there itself

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June 21, 2019, 08:01:54 PM
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Tell me hoestly, have you ever think about beat the household?
I first, YES, i did think about it. But never work!!
I don't think it will be possible anytime and if we try that our time will be waste so I don't follow anything to beat that to be successful in difficult time also so that the fact is it will be unbeaten in any situation.
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June 21, 2019, 09:52:44 PM
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I think everyone is trying to beat the household and try to make some profit in gambling, but it's not that easy to win, the owner got their own specialist team to calculate the odds and probability to give more advantage for the house, that's why we got something that call house edge and there was seldom news we heard the casino is closing down

I believe everyone wants to win, but not everyone has the ambition to beat the house as they know it's not easy or it's even almost impossible.
Majority of the gamblers does not start with a big bankroll, most of us are just small time gamblers aiming to win and can easily get satisfied but the house has the system in place and their advantage will beat the majority of the gamblers.
of course that won't be easy for most gamblers, it requires a lot of money and can take a long time to beat the house, because if every gambler has such targets, chances are that he will spend a lot of time doing gambling. of course the thing that comes to mind means that he has a greedy attitude to be able to achieve a big victory, but in fact this can be a bomerang for himself so he is stuck for a long time in gambling and can cause sustained losses

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June 21, 2019, 10:06:58 PM
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Tell me hoestly, have you ever think about beat the household?
I first, YES, i did think about it. But never work!!
I don't think it will be possible anytime and if we try that our time will be waste so I don't follow anything to beat that to be successful in difficult time also so that the fact is it will be unbeaten in any situation.

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June 24, 2019, 09:51:15 AM
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Tell me hoestly, have you ever think about beat the household?
I first, YES, i did think about it. But never work!!
I think at the very first start there is a better chance for you to make more wins than losing (don't forget its a random case) but as you continue to play on the site your chances of winning the house decreases and you will starts losing your money to them, while they make more money you will find it very difficult to win a single game. That's just how it works and you will have to leave to find another one. But some of them are so good that you have no other option than to remain with them and battle it out

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June 24, 2019, 07:00:11 PM
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I am not a gambling person and therefore I cannot say anything to support such a distinction.  In a sense, I can even condemn the excessive concern of certain people with gambling.  But I really know that various online casinos bring big profits for certain people.  I do not take into account the owners or the administration of online resources, because their care is beyond doubt.  in order to be successful in this field, you need to have moderate ambitions and excitement, you need to gain a sufficient amount of knowledge and experience in gambling.
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June 24, 2019, 11:15:37 PM
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Tell me hoestly, have you ever think about beat the household?
I first, YES, i did think about it. But never work!!

So far I never saw of anyone here posted that they've beaten the household, the odds are very great but it's possible if you are a high roller but it's too risky to put yourself in that situation, you'll go broke if you are going to do this.

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June 26, 2019, 05:18:21 AM
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I won't try to play more than 10x because that will makes me sad to see how many times I will get lost. Even if the bets are a small amount, I don't think that I have a chance to get a win in more than 5 times because I already did that before.

I see that after playing gambling in more than 3-5 times, the situations will be change and the time will turn to the house to eat the gambler's money. And if we are a gamble for a long time, I cannot imagine how much money we will lose, and the gamblers will take all of the victories.
He doesn't mean he will play 10 times, but he make a challange for him and anyone who want to join (for fun only ofcourse), who can be able to make their money 10times higher or bust it.

Yes, he doesn't mean that. But I think it is hard to challenge ourselves to try to win in the gambling games because we really depend on the luck factor. That will tough for us, especially if we don't have any skills and we played on the gambling games base on the luck. It is better if we can play without making a challenge for ourselves and we could only play gambling for fun and enjoy the games.

To beat the house will not easy because we know that the house will always get the money and we are on the loose side. So we always need to know our limit so we can prevent from a big loss.

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June 26, 2019, 11:38:52 AM
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Tell me hoestly, have you ever think about beat the household?
I first, YES, i did think about it. But never work!!
I think at the very first start there is a better chance for you to make more wins than losing (don't forget its a random case) but as you continue to play on the site your chances of winning the house decreases and you will starts losing your money to them, while they make more money you will find it very difficult to win a single game. That's just how it works and you will have to leave to find another one. But some of them are so good that you have no other option than to remain with them and battle it out
That’s the tactics. The aim is to make the site very good at the beginning and players would just assume it will continue to be that way then relax without adding more efforts to winning.

I think it’s a bad mindset to always believe the possibility of beating the house edge, even though the game looks favorable at the beginning, as a smart player, I always understand that its only for a while. The best is just to gamble for fun, ignoring what would be lost and focusing on the thrills to be gained. This way, we end up having fun and as well making money in a very calm, cool and calculative method. Gambling is more fun when there are no double minds in playing.

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June 26, 2019, 03:27:22 PM
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Tell me hoestly, have you ever think about beat the household?
I first, YES, i did think about it. But never work!!

So far I never saw of anyone here posted that they've beaten the household, the odds are very great but it's possible if you are a high roller but it's too risky to put yourself in that situation, you'll go broke if you are going to do this.
The odds very great? Which odds you mean? The house or gambler? The chance of gambler can beat the house is really low. Even if you have unlimited money, you still can't be sure you will beat the house
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June 26, 2019, 03:54:07 PM
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So far I never saw of anyone here posted that they've beaten the household, the odds are very great but it's possible if you are a high roller but it's too risky to put yourself in that situation, you'll go broke if you are going to do this.
The concept of beating the house is temporary. You can win something big but your greed will make you play with it again and lose it. If you are not someone who plays on instinct and stops with a green stats then you have actually beaten the house, temporarily.

Now if you withdraw that money and leave, never to come back with that money on any other gambling site then you have made a profit from the casino. This is rare because either that person rolls that money immediately or after a few days when their inner greed keeps telling them to play more. Hence the house will be profiting in the long run.

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June 26, 2019, 04:09:17 PM
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So far I never saw of anyone here posted that they've beaten the household, the odds are very great but it's possible if you are a high roller but it's too risky to put yourself in that situation, you'll go broke if you are going to do this.
The concept of beating the house is temporary. You can win something big but your greed will make you play with it again and lose it. If you are not someone who plays on instinct and stops with a green stats then you have actually beaten the house, temporarily.

Now if you withdraw that money and leave, never to come back with that money on any other gambling site then you have made a profit from the casino. This is rare because either that person rolls that money immediately or after a few days when their inner greed keeps telling them to play more. Hence the house will be profiting in the long run.

The inner greed usually win over him leaving out. The house will be out of business so you don't have any place to gamble if people beats the house, they will give you chance to enjoy and earn earnings but beating is almost impossible. They'd prefer to scam the gamblers than allow you to beat them and in that case you may not withdraw your funds and will be subjected for review that will last months til you quit.

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June 30, 2019, 07:09:56 AM
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The inner greed usually win over him leaving out.
Not if someone is able to control their emotions and impulsive behavior. Again most gamblers are those who act on impulses, the opposite group are the non-gamblers. So the chance is very low for a gambler to be someone who has control over impulses.

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The house will be out of business so you don't have any place to gamble if people beats the house, they will give you chance to enjoy and earn earnings but beating is almost impossible. They'd prefer to scam the gamblers than allow you to beat them and in that case you may not withdraw your funds and will be subjected for review that will last months til you quit.
I dont get the idea of scamming gamblers, seems to me you are trying to make things up. The online casino have a provably fair system in their code. You can verify every bet that you place and thus they are not scamming people. I cant say the same for physical casinos though because humans have the habit of covering up things which the digital world does not allow. Being subjected to review in again within the TnC of most casinos but I doubt such incidents having taken place.

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