gipsyscammer (OP)
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June 15, 2019, 11:26:07 AM |
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Gipsy, people without identity, they live all life robbing and spending in fun, luxe, hotels, cars, watches and diamonds. They don’t work, they don’t pay taxes, they marry at 16 years old and make as more children as possible because child makes money, from robbing from the street till more complex scams. The law is not enough strong with them because they change places, countries and know many languages. They live outside the system.
Type of scams?
Cash scams:
- They offer to change small cut notes for example 50 euro into bigger, for example 500 euro and vice versa at appealing rate.
- They ask to transfer money from one country to another, for example Hawala system
- Currency exchange
- Buy Gold, Diamonds and Watches scams:
- Buy Bitcoin or other crypto
BTC scams
- Sell BTC and double spend them
Financing scams
- They appear like investors or financiers. Always ask for an advance to repay the expenses of the financing. NO real investors do like this. NEVER GIVE MONEY IN ADVANCE!
How the scams work?
- Cash counting exchange: they count you the cash like magicians. They have ALWAYS 1 or 2 real packs of cash, the rest is fac simile in order to avoid being incriminated for counterfeit money.
1. Jacket method: they count you the original pack, then they put in jacket and change with the fake one. The fake one they put in a bag and they keep close to them so you don’t touch it and check the money, because only the first note is real, the rest is fac simile.
2. Bag with hidden compartment method: they count cash even with counting machine, then they put it into the bag. After you checked they open the secret compartment of the bag and give you fac simile, many don’t check again because as always they trust them and they see the first banknote real.
3. Hidden person in office furniture (table, cabinet). Same as previous they count real cash, then they put inside the drawer and a person inside the furniture change the cash with fac simile.
4. 1 dollar scam: count you original 100 dollars, then change packets and you find first banknote real and others 1 dollar
Advice: ALWAYS DOUBLE CHECK CASH AND MAKE TRANCHES!
- Bitcoin Double spending:
If you don’t wait for 1 confirmation they will take back the btc after you gave the cash. Usually they send the btc, you see in your balance, then the collector makes a lot of pressure to receive the money immediately and go to deposit cash, he say that he will come back but he disappear then. They don’t count the cash, it feels like they trust you a lot but not true. IT’S FREE MONEY FOR THEM.
Advice: ALWAYS WAIT 1 CONFIRMATION AND MAKE TRANCHES!
How to recognise a scam?
- Story: Usually a broker or also through a referred person, some guys represent them as very rich and powerful. Usually pretending to be Jewish, Russians, Arabs, or even Indians (always very different and far from from potential victim location and nationality). They know 5-6 languages and acting like educated people even they don’t even know how the earth rotate around the sun and not the contrary. They also claim to be working with gold and diamonds, real estate, financial industry. Of course all lies!
- Behavior: they are always so afraid and cautious, worry about criminals or to be robbed. They ask a lot of questions especially about your nationality, expertise with scams, history and go deeper in details to find if you know something or start to suspect. But they are also kind and nice, always happy to bring you to a good restaurant for dinner and lunch. They play with your emotions. They are happy and relaxed, they know how to act like real wealthy people.
- Video of cash: many people are underestimate this, but video of cash is essential. Gipsy do all in the same way: they show and count only 1-2 packs of real cash. The rest packs are all fake, only the first banknote is real, the rest is paper.
- Timing: they always want the deal in real time. For hawala for example they want to do only online regime.
- Number of tranches: the safest way of changing cash or any btc deal is to make in tranches. They always find excuses because they want to take always more. They can do 2-3 tests but then when they feel that you are confident they go up with the amount. And sometimes they come from far countries and they ask to close the deal the same day.
- Very appealing commissions: they offer very high rates to motivate the agents, at the end of the scams no one gets paid or they propose to the agent to work together finding new victims.
- Place of the deal (the most important): they ask to do always in different place proposed by the victim or if they agree they change it at the last minute. Usually public places like (5 star hotels, restaurants) in center of the city so they are safe and can run away with their driver or taxi. (I suggest always to leave another person outies the building to check where the client is going)
- City with most scams: Paris, Milan, Barcelona, Amsterdam, Brussels, London, Nice, Rome, Madrid, Verona, Prague, Budapest, Ljubljana, Vienna, Venice, Lugano, Chiasso, Geneva, Zurich. (In Germany usually they don’t like because the law for scams is tough).
- After the deal they NEED TO GO: fast because they are busy, they feel sick, they had problem, they have a present for you, they need to smoke outside, they need to go to toiled etc. they find always an excuse to escape fast.
What they do after the scam:
They are still in contact with you most of the times, because they want to confuse you! They make you believe it was an accident, there was a problem and they will give back what they took. They try to calm you. This can play this game for a couple of days, after this, when they left the country and are safe they disappear or in worse case ask you to work together to repay the loss. But even if you help them, they will never give you nothing!
Never trust anyone! If you are doing grey or black business keep in mind that the law will not defend you! Only the strong ones wins. Good luck!
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