[2019-06-16] US Federal judge threatens to hold Craig Wright in criminal...

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It wouldn't be out of the ordinary for a bench warrant to be issued. That would authorize the police to arrest him, but I'm guessing there's no chance of extradition.

Basically, Wright would need to avoid stepping foot in the United States.

As Satoshi, and a proven internet forensics expert, wouldn't he not be of some help for cleaning up the Bitcoin space from many (old) criminals?

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[Kakmakr]

How much legally binding is this order? As far as I know, Craig S Wright is an Australian citizen and he don't need to worry about the court proceedings in the United States. But if the federal judge forces him to appear before him in person and manages to prove that he was lying all along, then the judge will have a lot of respect from my side.

I am not a legal expert, but as far as I know the US and Australia can give a extradition order for his arrest, if they wanted to. The question is, will they go through all that for a minor infringement like this? 

It will restrict his travelling if he wants to travel to the US, because he might be arrested if he travels to the US for some reason.  In any way, his legal representatives will fight this extradition order if it was issues, so it will take years to get him behind bars. 

[gentlemand]

I am not a legal expert, but as far as I know the US and Australia can give a extradition order for his arrest, if they wanted to. The question is, will they go through all that for a minor infringement like this? 

This thread needs a resident lawyer.

I can't see the rest of the US legal system giving the slightest shit about this, and certainly not the UK government if some sort of extradition thing ever happened. All of these people have vastly better things to do with their time.

The thing I don't get about any of this is Craigy must have paid someone to tell him that he couldn't continue lying if he went down this path. Did he not listen or did he pay them enough to say the opposite?

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The thing I don't get about any of this is Craigy must have paid someone to tell him that he couldn't continue lying if he went down this path.

It's likely that he didn't. On his website he describes himself as a lawyer, despite having no law qualifications or passing any of the exams. He's enough of a narcissist to believe he can probably represent himself better than any actual lawyers. No lawyer would tell him to continue to lie to and disregard the courts, and he surely isn't stupid enough to pay for advice he knows he is going to ignore.

[DaCryptoRaccoon]

He won't be able to prove them on the next court

Well, for the next date he has been summoned in person, but he has already said he isn't going to attend. He will therefore be held in contempt of court. The question is whether this is enough to earn him an arrest warrant, or if he will just be fined and lose the suit against Kleiman by default instead.

If an arrest warrant is issued, then the next hurdle is extradition, since CSW currently resides in the UK. The UK has historically been pretty cooperative with US requests in this area though, provided capital punishment isn't involved.

He WILL be extradited
I have no idea why he came to the UK knowing that the UK has strong links with the US procesution service.

I think he came to the UK to try "doctor" documents or work on his back story of this company CO1N LTD

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08248988

In the file of this compnay last documents were 2017

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08248988/filing-history

Oh Craig... If we find your paperwork the US will find it.. Enjoy prison food...

[gentlemand]

He WILL be extradited
I have no idea why he came to the UK knowing that the UK has strong links with the US procesution service.

Why would tax payer funds go on dealing with something so piffling? The small number of people who have been extradited have been terrorists and those who've directly pissed in the mouth of the US government.

[DaCryptoRaccoon]

He WILL be extradited
I have no idea why he came to the UK knowing that the UK has strong links with the US procesution service.

Why would tax payer funds go on dealing with something so piffling? The small number of people who have been extradited have been terrorists and those who've directly pissed in the mouth of the US government.

Actually it's much higher than you think in reality from 2009 to 2016 - 7,463 people were extradited from the UK of that 479 were british nationals.  meanwhile only 897 people were brought to the UK under extradition laws.

And why did the tax payer bail out the banks..did they have a say in that?
The fact is that the UK tax payer has no say in what the tax money is being spent on.

[gentlemand]

Actually it's much higher than you think in reality from 2009 to 2016 - 7,463 people were extradited from the UK of that 479 were british nationals.  meanwhile only 897 people were brought to the UK under extradition laws.

That figure is for the EU, not US. There'll be a lot more law breaking going on cross channel than cross Atlantic.

And the legal business has limited resources just like everywhere else. They're going to point those resources to things that are important and relevant, not some spat over coins that don't exist.

[DaCryptoRaccoon]

Actually it's much higher than you think in reality from 2009 to 2016 - 7,463 people were extradited from the UK of that 479 were british nationals.  meanwhile only 897 people were brought to the UK under extradition laws.

That figure is for the EU, not US. There'll be a lot more law breaking going on cross channel than cross Atlantic.

And the legal business has limited resources just like everywhere else. They're going to point those resources to things that are important and relevant, not some spat over coins that don't exist.

It's a figure to show how much the UK co-operate with this extradition sceheme.
and if the US make the request to hold him then I can guarntee the UK will do it.

It's actually turning into a fraud case so there may be criminal charges to follow in which case the UK would act to hold and pass him to the US.

[squatter]

This thread needs a resident lawyer.

I can't see the rest of the US legal system giving the slightest shit about this, and certainly not the UK government if some sort of extradition thing ever happened. All of these people have vastly better things to do with their time.

Extradition pertains to criminal prosecution. Nobody is getting extradited over ignoring a court summons in a civil case in the state of Florida.

The thing I don't get about any of this is Craigy must have paid someone to tell him that he couldn't continue lying if he went down this path. Did he not listen or did he pay them enough to say the opposite?

He's either ignoring his lawyers or getting advice from lawyers who should be disbarred from practice.

It's actually turning into a fraud case so there may be criminal charges to follow

We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. For now, this extradition talk is complete nonsense.

[gentlemand]

https://medium.com/@danielkelman/opinion-on-current-issues-in-kleiman-v-wright-4240e4fcfd5

Finally some qualified legal opinion here instead of us lot guessing a bunch of shit.

An interesting angle that I hadn't really pondered before is the motivation of Kleiman in bringing the case. This geezer reckons it's to force a settlement out of Craigy.

Since I've never heard of any Kleiman coming up with anything pointing to Dave having anything to do with BTC then it makes sense. They may be just as opportunistic as he is.

[DaCryptoRaccoon]

https://medium.com/@danielkelman/opinion-on-current-issues-in-kleiman-v-wright-4240e4fcfd5

Finally some qualified legal opinion here instead of us lot guessing a bunch of shit.

An interesting angle that I hadn't really pondered before is the motivation of Kleiman in bringing the case. This geezer reckons it's to force a settlement out of Craigy.

Since I've never heard of any Kleiman coming up with anything pointing to Dave having anything to do with BTC then it makes sense. They may be just as opportunistic as he is.

It's been said out of craigs mouth that dave was part of it.
There is also the wallet.dat file craig desperatly asked them to save of daves.

I don't think dave's family realised how much he was involved untill craig showed up asking for info and files and god knows what else.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.24.24.pdf